Every lady runs her business different.
I personally believe in honoring ones first commitment.
Regardless regular or newbie.
I think that was nice of the one lady even though she canceled on you , she was honest with you why she was canceling .........so I give her points for that, as she could have given you some lame excuse.
But I personally IF I would even do that ( probably not ) I would make an effort to find a replacement. Maybe she tried doing that, I don't know.
Problem with phone , maybe ok lets just chalk it up to bad luck.
I personally think it is never too early to book an appointment. but I am the type that knows my schedule way in advance , unless any last minute emergencies.
Which in all my years I can count on one hand and I always made it up to the gent I cancelled on .
Not just said I would make it up , I really really did.
Even when cancellation was more then justified. but that's me.
Yes it is ok to have a back up plan. As long as you are honest with the lady about it.
Many ladies ( myself included ) know how to screen newbies with out references.
You just have to find those ladies who don't need references.
I honor my appointments and do not take something else because something better came along.
In my opinion that is not professional , but that is me.
Just like I would like a guy to keep his appointment he made with me , not cancel because his first choice finally decided to answer his email.
Don't do to others, what you don't want done to you. 
and I believe in Karma.
but once again , that is me and I know that is the policy of many great ladies here.
but there are also ladies who do not follow such policy.
Nothing you can do about it , but do your research well and hope you chose a lady who honors her commitments.
and BTW being on the TOP list doesn't mean more reliable.
it just means they had recent reviews and they keep getting highly rated scores ( justified or not )
and they have higher donations ....... I guess a higher donations earns a higher spot on the list.
Plenty of wonderful ladies who are missed because they are not on the list. That is really a shame.
Personally I wouldn't even go by "a list" that is easily manipulated.
Just saying.
Hope this helps
xoxo CindySpice
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Cindy, thank you for your perspective on this. I am not using any of the top lists...As a person who deals with statistics often, any number can be manipulated in a way to get a desired result. Again, thank you for your thoughts.
you have had such bad luck. BTW the lady who canceled you for a reg was shitty. You should name her. Once a date is set they need to honor it and not pull that kind of stuff.
There is no issue in how far in advance you schedule. If the lady is not cool with it she will let you know. Most are willing to set dates well in advance
The back up plan is a touchy area as then we set up the ladies to have us cancel them. If your date can't make it ask them to recommend a friend and then to set it up. There are a few decent agencies in town that can be a back up plan.
The class ladies will honor the dates they have set. Back to the naming names if they don't. The second part of your question sets it up so the ladies (who do talk )say so and so if a flake and don't make a date with him as he won't show or will cancel at the last minute.
Sadly both the guys and the gals pull stuff on each other of no show, no call, and such. I have for the most part I've been blessed over the years not to have this stuff happen to me. I have some ladies that I see frequently who show up on time and don't pull BS stuff
Thanks for your response.
Posted By: IndianaGuy45
I travel to Vegas 1 to 2 times a year. I am a 47 year old male who has a lot of structure in my life, and the ability to let my inner child out when I do travel to Las Vegas.I am the epitome of a newbie. So I made an assumption 2 years ago that this was a business that it was best to make plans as far in advance as you can, to have it locked down. So, 2 years ago I found a date on a different site(I truly love this site and being a VIP), I scheduled that date 2.5 months in advance, was all set, did the confirmations with the lady. Emailed her when I got into town to tell her my hotel and room information. Emailed her morning of the date, got the return email 5 hours before the date confirming it. 2 hours before my date she calls me and tells me she can't make it because one of her regulars has come into town and needs to take his date because she sees him more often. She was nice about it, however it left me as a newbie, without a date, and since I had no references, no prayer in hell of getting a replacement, so it didn't happen.
Last year, I had taken peoples advice I had seen on here as a free member, to go with ladies with many reviews and not "newer" type ladies. So I again scheduled something about 2 months in advance with a well reviewed lady on here. She was incredible in getting comfortable with me and planning our date out. We exchanged many emails. I emailed her when I arrived, we were all set. The day off, the texts got weird, it was like she would text me, I would respond, then 2 hours later I would get a text from here that made no sense...this went on back and forth all day. It was obvious to me I wasn't getting all the texts she was sending me, and she wasn't getting all of what I was sending to her, the contexts were way off. So date time comes and no show. I am calling her and its going straight to her voicemail. The whole thing was weird, and made me probably a little paranoid I was being scammed...Her and I finally got to talk about 1 hour after date was scheduled for. She was having major cell phone issues, she couldn't get calls to go out, and was confused with my texts she was getting because they made no sense, so she had not come over. She was however willing however to get ready and come over then, but now it was pushing 11:00 and I had a 5:00am flight out, so we both agreed to call it off. She was genuinely sorry, and was quite obvious she felt bad. I still hold her in high regard and would love to see her sometime when I am in Las Vegas. However again date didn't happen.
So, we head into this year when I arrive in Vegas March 17-early morning on the 23rd. I again now being a VIP on here try to schedule a date. GREAT interaction with many lovely ladies. Set a date, for the 22nd. Unfortunately after the lovely lady, and I mean LOVELY lady, rechecked her schedule, she realized she was going to be out of town then and nicely and apologetically had to cancel. I quickly tasked out the date and got a new date confirmed with another great reviewed lady. In the mean time I was still getting messages from providers including from one I had sought out through reviews and put at the top of my wishlist. When I had not heard from her in time I had made plans with the other lady. I am honoring my commitment to the scheduled date, because I am a person of principle first and foremost. This is now after reading the board below, leading me into a few questions...
1) Should I not be trying to schedule dates that far out in advance?
2) Should I have a backup plan in place in case my scheduled date were to cancel, and me still being a newbie without references or a way to go through a screening process?
3) Do providers when they schedule with you really only do it and then honor it if something better doesn't come along?
4) If the answer to #3 is what I hope it isn't, why would guys like me not find way a way to schedule a date at one time, and then schedule another date an hour later, and short cancel it when the first lady shows up?
I am not trying to be a jerk here and hope this isn't taken that way. I am just a guy who actually wants to make sure that this trip, the third attempt at this date occurs. I welcome thoughts from both sides of the business here. Thanks in advance!
Edited..sorry just re-read you haven't seen anyone yet I wish you a great time this go round
I will answer your questions in the order you presented above.
1)Scheduling in advance: Many ladies I know I do welcome advance booking.I have gents who book with me 2-3 months sometimes longer and I always keep an advanced booking appt.
Then there are other ladies who only want to book an appt very close to the gent's arrival date or sometimes not until he is actually here in town.I don't think booking in advance was the issue I just think it was who you picked sorry to say.You could always reach out to the lady or ladies you are interested in and ask if she welcomes advance booking and then you know where she stands on that subject.
If you select a lady to see and you are verified and confirmed and then she sends you an email/text/call saying she is going with a regular and cancelling your appt is bad business.Period!
That is not cool she should have tried to reset her date with the regular for a later time the same day or see if you or him was flexible with a change of time.But not just cancel on someone who booked far in advance and tell him I am cancelling you because of a regular.
If a lady does that to a gent and he wants to see her again after being cancelled on in this manner that is his choice.But there are so many lovely ladies here in vegas on TER that would honor their advanced bookings and not leave a guy high and dryUnfortunately...there are some who could care less.
2)I would not suggest reaching out to multiple ladies for the same day/time appt because one of the ladies is going to be cancelled on.Perhaps reaching out to ladies and asking if they allow pre-screening that way you are not committing to an appt but you are showing interest and is verified in case you have extra time or you unexpectedly have a cancellation.
3)When I book an appt the gent is penciled in for that specific day and time.
If another gent comes along and wants the same day and same time as my appt that is already booked I would not be able to see him if he was not flexible with a change of time or day.I would not kick my first appt to the curb for another appt that came along at a later date even if that second appt request was for a multi-hr appt.
Maybe I am silly in that aspect as I keep hearing about other ladies doing this exact thing.To each her own.
4)Sorry not too clear on what you are asking on this question.
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Thank you so much for your thoughts. Great advice, I will look into getting pre-screened, just in case so a quick phone call might get a last minute date on short notice, if something happens to my pre-aranged date on March 22. I apologize to you personally for reaching out to you when I had gone a week with no response from the lady I am currently confirmed with. She was out of town and without access to respond back to me. I hope I handled that appropriately with you.
There probably is no good answer to question to #4...
apologize no worries at all and yes you most certainly did
Have fun next month and there are some other great suggestions as well posted by other members here:
t cool to double book , then cancel one.
OK to tell lady you want to be pre-screened in case of last minute cancellation, but of course still no guarantee that lady who screened you will be available.
Maybe in that case try a legit agency.
Not saying it is ok that lady canceled on you for her regular , but it was cool of her being honest with you about it. Cause she could have easily lied - car broke down, family emergency, my cat died , my dog ate my homework.......oh wait that is for school excuses LOL LOL
xoxo CindySpice
I dont know what it is with all the providers no calling or no showing or canceling last min. However, i does seem that most of these post say the provider is "young" and like in the top 10..news flash the top 10 is not accurate...I have been in the biz for 8 years and can count the number of times i have needed to cancel and they where all due to illness.
Schedule as early as you like. For me i put the meeting on my schedule and re confirm 2 weeks before via email. And if schedule conflict comes up i move my schedule around to make it work for all. And a back up plan, so if your first one comes through then you cancel on your back up plan and then she is pissed. ( no one wins)
This is just my input, but i know Myself and my girlfriends DONT play those games
xo
LaRue McCay
[email protected]
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Posted By: IndianaGuy45
I travel to Vegas 1 to 2 times a year. I am a 47 year old male who has a lot of structure in my life, and the ability to let my inner child out when I do travel to Las Vegas.I am the epitome of a newbie. So I made an assumption 2 years ago that this was a business that it was best to make plans as far in advance as you can, to have it locked down. So, 2 years ago I found a date on a different site(I truly love this site and being a VIP), I scheduled that date 2.5 months in advance, was all set, did the confirmations with the lady. Emailed her when I got into town to tell her my hotel and room information. Emailed her morning of the date, got the return email 5 hours before the date confirming it. 2 hours before my date she calls me and tells me she can't make it because one of her regulars has come into town and needs to take his date because she sees him more often. She was nice about it, however it left me as a newbie, without a date, and since I had no references, no prayer in hell of getting a replacement, so it didn't happen.
Last year, I had taken peoples advice I had seen on here as a free member, to go with ladies with many reviews and not "newer" type ladies. So I again scheduled something about 2 months in advance with a well reviewed lady on here. She was incredible in getting comfortable with me and planning our date out. We exchanged many emails. I emailed her when I arrived, we were all set. The day off, the texts got weird, it was like she would text me, I would respond, then 2 hours later I would get a text from here that made no sense...this went on back and forth all day. It was obvious to me I wasn't getting all the texts she was sending me, and she wasn't getting all of what I was sending to her, the contexts were way off. So date time comes and no show. I am calling her and its going straight to her voicemail. The whole thing was weird, and made me probably a little paranoid I was being scammed...Her and I finally got to talk about 1 hour after date was scheduled for. She was having major cell phone issues, she couldn't get calls to go out, and was confused with my texts she was getting because they made no sense, so she had not come over. She was however willing however to get ready and come over then, but now it was pushing 11:00 and I had a 5:00am flight out, so we both agreed to call it off. She was genuinely sorry, and was quite obvious she felt bad. I still hold her in high regard and would love to see her sometime when I am in Las Vegas. However again date didn't happen.
So, we head into this year when I arrive in Vegas March 17-early morning on the 23rd. I again now being a VIP on here try to schedule a date. GREAT interaction with many lovely ladies. Set a date, for the 22nd. Unfortunately after the lovely lady, and I mean LOVELY lady, rechecked her schedule, she realized she was going to be out of town then and nicely and apologetically had to cancel. I quickly tasked out the date and got a new date confirmed with another great reviewed lady. In the mean time I was still getting messages from providers including from one I had sought out through reviews and put at the top of my wishlist. When I had not heard from her in time I had made plans with the other lady. I am honoring my commitment to the scheduled date, because I am a person of principle first and foremost. This is now after reading the board below, leading me into a few questions...
1) Should I not be trying to schedule dates that far out in advance?
2) Should I have a backup plan in place in case my scheduled date were to cancel, and me still being a newbie without references or a way to go through a screening process?
3) Do providers when they schedule with you really only do it and then honor it if something better doesn't come along?
4) If the answer to #3 is what I hope it isn't, why would guys like me not find way a way to schedule a date at one time, and then schedule another date an hour later, and short cancel it when the first lady shows up?
I am not trying to be a jerk here and hope this isn't taken that way. I am just a guy who actually wants to make sure that this trip, the third attempt at this date occurs. I welcome thoughts from both sides of the business here. Thanks in advance!
That seems like a lot of bad luck but at least there are many wonderful ladies here in Las Vegas. I love when people pre book far in advance with me because I can schedule my photo shoots around the appointment. In general its always good to honor any standing appointments, I know things happen but everyones time deserves to be respected.
I am not a veteran hobbyist, but it seems like 2 months is too far ahead to book. Either party can have shit pop up, change of plans, or forget. From the hobbyist standpoint, a new provider might come on the scene that is a better fit for the experience you are looking for. Am I wrong that 2 weeks provides enough time for prescreening and hashing out the details? Even within two weeks, i had a last minute cancellation. I wish I had gone with prescreening through Lv 100 proof to have an agency as a backup, as suggested above.
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It is absolutely not too much notice. I am booking for July now so I know when to book my vacations this summer. Since I can travel when I want I book my vacation around any appointments I already have. I am very comfortable booking 6 months in advance and then exchanging emails once per month until the month of the appointment.
Out of my 5 recent appointments (in LA), 4 were cancelled at last minute/hour/day. 2 of them were NCNS. I have great references so I don't think it only happens to newbies and I don't think it's just LA or Vegas. I think it's just part of the hobby. It's only my opinion, but I will try my best to answer your questions.
1) I do think 2 months out is a little too far out in advance. Not everyone is that good a planner or able to control his/her affairs for that length of time. In most cases, 2 to 3 weeks out should be sufficient and reconfirm it 1 or 2 days out.
2) Yes, you should. A reputable agency would be a good backup option. My backup plan is the tables. It might be more expensive, but it's always available.
3) Some of them do this, but it's not everyone. I don't think it's good business practice, but I am not in the business so I don't know for sure.
4) I do not recommend this. When it happens to me, I try not to let it bother me. After all, it's only a little bit of fun that I am missing. I am sure cancellation happens to provers as well. Can you imagine if 80% of your business of that month/year get cancelled at last minute? Life is hard as it is. Why make it harder?
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It is great that I can ask for thoughts and get a great sampling of clients and providers. It sure sounds like the problems lie with newer, younger women who dont have much respect for their profession, and others. Gee sounds like a generation type thing as having a son turning 21 this week, I see in him and his friends the total disregard for people and others property and lively hood.
Here in lies a similar risk that providers take with seeing newbies.
I think it's more accountability.
Too many people just don't hold themselves accountable for their actions, or lack of.
If a provider or a gent has a handle that is linked to time, they are less likely to act a fool as they can lose everything they have worked so hard to prove.
This isnt always the case, but it's just another risk that both sides take when making time for someone who doesn't have history.
This is also why back channeling is important... Not all reviews are real which totally sucks because how does one know? Unfortunately TER doesn't have a filter similar to yelps.
Keep hearing the term back channeling, what is that?
It's just talking to other gents...
Reviews come in many shapes sizes and etc...
The amazing ones are real ones.
The worst ones are the fake ones.
Then there is everything in between....
Some guys don't feel comfortable being honest so they just don't write one.
Some guys feel pressured to writing an a plus over the top in fear that other ladies will read something more real and not see them.
Ladies yell at guys for giving them lower than they expected scores.
Men fabricate for various reasons. I'm not a guy but I can only assume they have to do with the ego. Similar to why ladies get upset over the number system.
I'm sure once you start writing your reviews you will be able to go to the reviewers only board and take it from there...
Just remember to take every last thing that you read on these boards with grains of salt.
Also just remember to have fun.
Xoxo
So all/most bad reviews are fake? Come on girl, you know better then that.
-- Modified on 2/10/2015 7:21:06 PM
Posted By: hpygolky
So all/most bad reviews are fake? Come on girl, you know better then that.
-- Modified on 2/10/2015 7:21:06 PM
Because if that's what I meant, it does nothing to try to prove a point. Bad reviews, so long as they are truthful fall in to the "amazing" ones as they are "real" reviews. The truth is, everyone has a bad day... It's foolish to think otherwise. It's also foolish to think if someone posts a 10/10 that you are guaranteed to receive the same. Hence the, take everything with a grain of salt comment,
Originally said: The amazing ones are real ones.
Rewritten: The real reviews are the amazing reviews. Why? They are real and they give credibility to TER.
Originally said: The worst ones are the fake ones.
Rewritten: The fake reviews are the worst ones. Not necessarily negative reviews, worst as in they have no credibility. They never happened. Some of these come from a paid service and others come from guys who want free VIP. I'm sure there are other types of fake reviews, but those seem to be the most common.
Originally said: Then there is everything in between....
Clarified: That means there are half truths, things left out. I don't mean things like exact replicas of tattoos.. Stories that were shared that are personal.. I mean.... Perhaps the provider NCNSed and then promised a make up session at a discount so long as it wasn't mentioned in the review. Discounts and other "perks" for positive reviews. The list of these goes on and on and on....
Back to master chef jr!
Xoxo
...that's a private board here on TER which is available to men who have posted at least 10 reviews. Once you've written and had 10 reviews approved you can ask for Reviewers Board privileges. It's a men's only board where guys can freely talk about the usual guy stuff, you know like circle jerks, wedgie fights, farting, beer, blowjobs and most importantly, women. It's open to men all over the country, not just Las Vegas. If you had a question about a certain lady in some city, you could just post a question asking guys who've seen her if they believe she's dependable and will show for an appointment. But, it's even a stronger tool to use your VIP status so you can research a woman by reading her reviews. Then, if you feel you would like more info you could send a PM to one of her recent reviewers and ask them for further info or clarification. That's what back channeling is. Use the force!
