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I posted here because Cindy just loves to get the last word in; I expect as much this time, but I hope she'll fill in the blanks doing so.

Generally speaking, very high rollers have a number of outs when seeking ladies. There are a couple of high end ($1K/hr) referral only agencies in town to handle this market. If you play big enough, you will be personally dealing with a Director-level executive, and he will know how to hook you up. Sometimes the date is a comp (in the jargon, a "hard" comp, yes, that's what they call it, but it's hard because a cash disbursement is involved), sometimes the casino customer pays. Generally, you're looking at an average daily theoretical (expected loss) of $5K/day, or $10K/trip (visit, 2-3 days)before you may get such an offer. Considering how competitive the market is right, those who play slightly smaller might be eligible for consideration as well.

KaraHot4U2898 reads

Referring back to AlwaysLaRue's post on 9/4/06...same exact scam with different name, phone number and targeting out of state girls.

This guy (new phone number 702-327-2154 -traces to T-Mobile cell # and called himself James) just tried to run his scam on me with a NEW TWIST!!!  I am an independent provider in Phoenix and I work in Vegas often.  I just listed Vegas on all my ads and got the call from him.  He is now targeting VISITING girls.  I think he mentioned he saw me on cityvibe.

"James" who claimed to work as casino host for MGM (and when I asked to call MGM and be connected to his voicemail...he then said he worked for "International Marketing, a company who financially facilitates high rollers who are not US citizens").  He had me look Johnny Chan up online and proceeded to tell me he works for Johnny Chan because he is not a US citizen and to avoid taxes I needed to send $998 to 7 different people via Western Union and it had to be a girl OUT OF STATE to avoid paying high-end tax bracket taxes...(yeah right), then cancel the 7 transactions...so now I would be in Western Union's system and he could wire me $63,000 for 1 week to see Johnny Chan ($9000/day plus shopping money and my own suite at MGM).  I had to pay the limo driver $13,000 when he picked me up and I could keep the rest.  I told him I would try to come up with the $7000 to wire to these 7 made up people.  When I started doing cash advances on my credit cards my friend told me I was getting scammed (lucky she is my friend and smart).  He kept calling me and calling me and to stay on the phone with him (I had no time to talk to anyone because Johnny wanted me to get on this private charter plane right away and wanted to see me ASAP).  I asked to talk to Johnny myself on the phone and he said "Johnny is busy playing cards in the poker tournament."  Well, my friend looked online and there was no poker tournament going on where he said.  I then told him I couldn't get the money and he yelled and yelled and yelled at me...like he had set up plane reservations in my real name (which I gave him for the plane ticket) and he had all ready charged the money to MGM.  He hung up on me as soon as he heard I didn't have the money.  

THEN --  He called back yelling at me and I told him I was going to have him blacklisted on the discussion boards for trying to scam me and hung up on him again.

I looked at Johnny Chan's website and he IS in fact a US citizen and has lived in Vegas for 20 years.  I am sure he would not appreciate this scammer using his name to suck girls in.  

THEN --  I get another call from same # where the same guy "James" is on the phone PRETENDING to be Johnny Chan....but not very good at impersonating him....I said I am used to getting paid cash up front and not paying anything up front....can you just give me chips or cash when I get there....then he babbled on about taxes again.  I said this is really you and told him off and hung up.

THEN -- "James" called me back again yelling at me like super mad at ME saying he was going to 3-way call me to the lieutenant of Phoenix Police Dept. and I could never step foot in Vegas again or I would be arrested.  He said he faxed the Phoenix police dept. my picture and phone number and address.  I said go ahead...I have done nothing wrong...I said I dare you...You have solicited me, impersonated someone else, planned on running high amounts of money through Western Union and using my real name to do it.  

---MY MISTAKE was giving the guy my real name for the plane ticket because at the end of the conversation he proceeded to say he had my name, address, and "GIRLS DISAPPEAR EVERYDAY...WATCH YOUR BACK...I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE...I LOOKED IT UP ON DMV RECORDS"  So now this crazy guy has JUST THREATENED MY LIFE.

Call me if you need to confirm anything and if I get killed this is the guy who did it.

Thinking back, all in all his story made no sense, nothing he said panned out, he kept messing up his story the whole time...he was not very smooth.  He used the RUSHING/URGENCY tactic and was very pushy and kept saying he could easily just call another girl if I didn't do exactly as he said.  He said Johnny had 3 choices and I was just the first choice.

****I think his goal was to keep me on the phone while I gave the Western Union people the 7 fictional names so he could hear the names and pick up the money before I could cancel the transactions.....I don't even think you can cancel Western Union transactions after you send the money out.

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Kara Hott
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Related Link: AlwaysLarue's 9/4 post

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Mr. Info2499 reads

This scam has been around for a while.  I've
included two related links from this board.
(Your link was truncated and does not work)

AlwayLaRue's post on 9/4/2006:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=39886&boardID=3&page=

MissLogan's post on 3/18/2006
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=34213&boardID=3&page=


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whorist1397 reads

Why do so many seemingly bright providers get sucked along with BS stories. I don't believe it! You girls duck LE bad clients all the time. Is this a case where you want to believe it too much? You've heard the stories of getting that one big payday & you saw Pretty Woman & now it's your turn? I really don't mean to flame anyone but come on! This is worse than a hobbyist seeing a girl w/ bad reviews thinking this lady will love me!!
I'm surprised that the ladies familiar w/ TER fall for this....

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Number 61845 reads

For $15 or so, she can get the guy's real name and address.

Related Link: Cell Phone Reverse Directory

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AZ Terri1804 reads

Some big boys need to set him up!!!! Hopefully what comes around goes around!
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devinebeauty3197 reads

Thanks for posting this message, I too have been contacted by "Johnny Chan's limmo driver".  I was a little surprised at how confident this guy i, he is very stern and projects himself as a very busy man.  Its either a YES or NO.
The first time he called me, I refused to see his famous Johnny Chan friend, because of how upfront he was about the whole ordeal.  How he would pick me up, take me shopping at the Forrum Shops, go gamble, and he would give me 5,00 for the whole day.  It sounded a little far fetched  so I declined.  He than tried to convince me further by insulting me and saying that I'd be a fool if I missed out on this "wonderful opportunity.  I than asked to speak to this "Johnny Chan" and thats when all hell broke loose, "he's a very busy man, don't you know who he is, go look him up, bla bla bla....
Needless to say, I hung up on him.  He has since called me back about 3 times clamming the same ting.  I just laugh at him and tell him he's already tried; its not going to work.  This guy is seriously pathetic.

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Number 61827 reads

You're swimming in deep water here, pal. See, I know JC very well, and he's not going to be happy to be reading this. I'm not going to say a lot more here than I need to, but JC is absolutely the wrong guy to be pissing off here.

If I were you, I'd be getting my fucking amateur, wannabe thug transient ass out of here before he gets wind of this. Dude, this is no joke, trust me.

Before leaving here, let me offer this disclaimer about JC. I've known him 15 years, and all I know is that he's a devoted family man, who keeps his family out of the limelight, for obvious reasons. IF he needed some action (of the non-gambling kind), why would he go to some casino flunkie when  he can use his high-level connections to get anything he needs or want very much under the radar?


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CindySpice2107 reads

Although he never contacted me , or maybe he did and I just never called him back ( reason number one why I don't have a direct published number to reach me at.....published number is just a pager to leave me a message)


Anyways he was telling ladies he knows me and that he referred business to me.

Dah like a girl isn't going to call me to ask if this is true.......Nope I don't know the guy!!and he never referred business to me.

Of course he still found ways to turn it around saying I was lying because I am jealous he is using other girls.........Reason why ladies should think twice before believing what a "dude" says to you.(That includes sometimes clients)

Anyways strange after all this time he uses the "Jimmy" story.I mean this guy has been using that story for like 6 years or more.

Ladies ,if it sounds too good to be true , then it probably is.
and if it is good ,no one will ever ask you to first put up cash.
Anyone with that much money to spend on you,has no problem paying cash to you.

Stay safe
xoxo CindySpice

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Number 62502 reads

I posted here because Cindy just loves to get the last word in; I expect as much this time, but I hope she'll fill in the blanks doing so.

Generally speaking, very high rollers have a number of outs when seeking ladies. There are a couple of high end ($1K/hr) referral only agencies in town to handle this market. If you play big enough, you will be personally dealing with a Director-level executive, and he will know how to hook you up. Sometimes the date is a comp (in the jargon, a "hard" comp, yes, that's what they call it, but it's hard because a cash disbursement is involved), sometimes the casino customer pays. Generally, you're looking at an average daily theoretical (expected loss) of $5K/day, or $10K/trip (visit, 2-3 days)before you may get such an offer. Considering how competitive the market is right, those who play slightly smaller might be eligible for consideration as well.

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CindySpice2073 reads

This isn't about getting the last word in ............I think you didn't READ my post very well, or maybe I didn't word my post well enough .............I said ,( or what I meant to say )  it can happen a lady gets a high roller who pays $5k a day , BUT if that happens she will get CASH and will not first have to pay anything out of pocket upfront. Not so hard to understand!!

Capiche??? Now you fill in the blanks.

BTW  since now most ( or all ) hotels are "corporate" things are different from the good old mob days.;-)

So not sure where you get your info from , but mines comes from LIVING it.
Yep sorry I just had to get the last word in ;-)

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Number 62156 reads

..first, it's "capisce". You want to be "Old School", learn the lingo-lol....

...second, I have many, many years in The Industry. I didn't dispute anything you wrote as well. But yes, do tell me how it's done. Because you have not had opportunity to network with these people does not mean they, nor the practices, do not exist. Even today. Trust me :)

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CindySpice2348 reads

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Capiche

Alternative spellings
capisce, capicé

So I know the lingo ;-)

and you don't know my "network".I didn't say it wasn't there ............ I said it is different.
trust me ;-)

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Nico Veneta2399 reads

I already showed it to JC last year when this idiot was doing this and he wasn't happy about it. If someone will email his # I will be happy to pass it along to Johnny.

Always
Nico

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