I’ve always been curious as to what the review posters to review lurkers ratio might be. Given the number of cocks pleased per day per girl, we obviously don’t see a corresponding number of reviews. Any feedback on performance would be welcome but for whatever their reasons, most guys rather gleen info rather than contribute and inform the community. It is what it is. Any educated or uneducated guesses as to what that ratio may actually be?

There are occasional peaks where the number of reviewers rise above that. I’ve never seen it hit above 9:1 except very rarely. In my experience, 99:1 is the norm over any significant period of time for any one girl.  

 
The math is pretty simple. Say your average girl sees 5 (or more) customers per day. Then look at the average rate of reviews for a particular girl. It tends to be about one per week or less. Exceptions of course exist.

 
However, I did not go through and do a statistical analysis here on TER. I have done them in the past for web sites that I worked on. I’ve looked through TER reviews quite a bit. From what I’ve seen the lurker to reviewer ratio seems to remain at that 99:1 ratio I’ve seen elsewhere.

over the years how many of their customers typically write reviews, and the most common number I got was one out of ten.  Indie providers are pretty consistent that this is the number, but turning to Kgirls is a little different, because a large chunk of the Kgirls I asked couldn't even guess because they don't follow their review history.  Accordingly, the kgirl percentage may be higher or lower than the ten percent that the indies seem to agree on.  Then you have to balance whatever the Kgirls tell you with the higher percentage of Kgirls that get fake reviews.  Indies are likely to challenge a fake review (unless its a 10-9 - Lol), and the challenge process will often expose a fake reviewer.  I have only known a handful of Kgirls that ever challenged fake reviews, mainly because it's a time-suck for them and we all know what a tight schedule they are on, so the first step in getting a good percentage number for Kgirls would be to find some way to estimate the percentage of fake reviews and remove those from the equation.  Great question, Rick.

...K-girls PAY for VIP despite the fact that they can get FREE VIP if they wanted to.  Why would waste their hard earned money paying for VIP if they don't even use it to check their review history (which they can do for free anyway)?  

I assume most kgirls see 8-10 guys a day, and even popular girls typically don't get a review a day. Maybe 1 every other day,

So 1/20.

You also have to consider a lot of guys repeat with girls many times over. So let's say 1/15 on the high end and 1/20 on the low end (you get what I'm saying)

As to why, I guess its guys wanting to keep a girl "secret" but that probably only works on WC where options are many.

In my end of the woods, there's only 2-3 agencies, and I'm sure they're all busy as hell, very rarely will I hit the booker up and they're like "come on over!" Even mid-range/average girls stay busy around here, it's one reason they like working here.

Interesting. I expected the number to be lopsided but not 99:1 lopsided. I tried to apply some math (at which I suck) to this but too many variables cropped up. I’ve visited AMPs where the girls would see up to 10 cocks per day (with little to no time for clean up). Of course some of these sessions were 30 minute stints but I don’t think that assembly line work ethic is in practice here in the AAMPs in the bay. I expected the number to be somewhere in the range of 20 to one but like you say, some ladies like Gia of GFEI is usually pretty busy (took a couple weeks earlier this year to find an opening for her) but you might see one review for her every couple days. Im sure many of those are repeat offenders but still not as many reviews I’d expect for one so popular. When Im fucking off reading reviews on TER I try to get an idea of numbers such as how many guys report and how many dudes opt for rawdog vice CFS with known PSE girls. Call it half assed risk analysis. Too bad regarding the relative paucity of reports. You can never have too much data.

I’ve never bothered to ask but I plan to follow your example and do so provided my mind isn’t mush in the wake of a spirited session.

First, there is a segment of clientele that doesn't go online to these kinda sites. Don't want to be too stereotypical, but there's a large Asian clientele, and part of them are older dudes who barely speak any  
English. Etc etc.

 
Then there's segmented sites. People got several sites with reviews their private groups and so forth.

 
Then you got people who don't write reviews even tho they use the site, or don't write specific kind of reviews or specific kind of girls.

 
Then in context of each sites reviews there's fluff of reviews that are reviews of girls who were never actually seen (fake reviews), reviews by multiple aliases and so forth which inflates the overall number of reviews.

 
Once again, at least on west coast these girls do mad volume. Even in orgs that are supposed to give girls a rest, I've bumped into back to backs with girls who weren't supposed to be top billing face/body.

 
I think that estimating amount of cfs ratio to pse offering girls via reviews is rather futiel. Many people won't say they went raw even if they have. Number of reviews for a girl might not relate to her actual popularity or volume, it might relate to how many reviews she wants, the org wants, etc. A popular girl with tons of reviews is also an easy target for fake reviews for VIP sessions.

 
Theres just way too many variables in play here imo

If we're talking strictly ratio of people who wrote simply at least one review in their lifetime to people who never wrote a review, it will be a lower ratio for sure.

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The subject typically only comes up if I know a girl pretty well and she starts talking about reviews.

 
But let’s set a bit of context.

 
First, why do the majority of mongers not write reviews? Here is a partial list.

 
 * Mongering is neither socially or legally (the vast majority of places in the U.S. anyway)  in this country. The vast majority of mongers are simply not comfortable writing reviews because of this.
 * Some mongers have had bad experiences resulting from specific reviews. I know I have. It can become the smarter course for someone to just not write reviews when this happens. Especially if it happens more than once.  
 * It is not uncommon for kgirls to say “no reviews”. In my experience, it is not a good idea to write a review for a girl with whom you want to repeat if she’s asked you to not write one. I know some guys seem to get away with this. But the couple of times I did it I got caught. For some reason the girl remembered me well enough to match me to the review. So I don’t write a review when I’m asked not to do so.
     * She may have done some things with a monger that she doesn’t want known.  
     * If the monger is packing a magnum there are more than a few kgirls (about 1 out of 3 in my experience) who will just hand back the money and say sorry. No opportunity for a review here. What would you write? “She seemed pretty and nice. But she gave me back my money and said ‘too big’”? That’s a forum comment. Not a review.  
     * For those kgirls who are willing to see a magnum, a significant portion of them will say “no review”. Because they don’t want it to get out that they are magnum friendly. I think it’s kind of funny that it is not uncommon for them to think we all know each other so well. But some of them certainly think this way. And, to be frank, we frequently do end up knowing if another monger is a magnum from his reviews. I think it is useful information to point out how many inches a girl who advertises DT can actually take. Damn few can take more than 6 inches. But, if a girl can take at least 6 inches, I will say that she can DT. Though there are those who have girth issues. But all you can do is report your own experience.
     * Kgirls get sensitive about having too many reviews. In order to control this they will start saying “no review” to everyone until they feel it’s time to get some more reviews.    

 
And, yes, I know that 9:1 happens when a girl is new and hot. But from what I’ve seen that doesn’t last.

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And people complying.

 
Whether to write a review is solely up to the monger in question. Girls trying to influence a monger decision to write a review is the same thing as us telling them in-person how to run their biz how to  
fuck others and so forth.

 
In no uncertain terms, it is none of their damn business whether a monger writes a review on them or not. They should focus on the job they're doing; the reviews are a feedback tool for the supplier. Not an advertisement tool to help business.

it mischaracterizes what I said.  I said "A LARGE CHUNK of Kgirls do not follow their review history . . . ", not ALL of them.   These are mostly the touring girls.  The girls that are permanent in ONE city follow their review history closely, so my point was, that if you ask Kgirls what percentage of their customers write reviews, you will only get an accurate estimate (is that an oxymoron? - lol) from the ones that don't tour.  Touring girls leave after three weeks and don't usually look back at their reviews because they will likely not be back for 3-6 months.  

is that they have many days where every customer they saw that day was one of their regulars, so there is little opportunity for a review from regulars because most will be reviewing her every two or three months anyway, but not more often if they want to maintain their cred for an honest review.  So if she sees 8 guys one day and they are all regulars you are not going to be able to make an association between the number of clients and the number of reviewers versus non-reviewing customers. Many of these top-tier girls will only get three or four new customers in an entire week.  If ONE wrote a review, it would of 25% of the NEW customers, but only a fraction of the total by including her regulars.  

Many hobbyists who have a set of regular girls they see don’t write reviews of them since it would be repetitive and it is actually discouraged by TER unless the session involves something new and different. That being said, those “regulars” will peruse the reviews others post, since just about every hobbyist wants to keep an eye out for new talent that could be added to his rotation.

The bottom line is that statistics such as the ones quoted in this thread usually do not provide a real analysis of what is going on.

Do keep in mind that a few years back a rather popular site with extensive reviews was seized and shut down by the feds, and the owners/admins prosecuted and jailed. In addition, there were numerous "inquiries" made by LE in their snipe hunt for "human trafficking victims" so quite a few of the more visible providers had visits by such personnel in their efforts to dig up dirt on others. This resulted in the proliferation of a number of members only, secure sites where vetted mongers could speak more freely and openly exchange 411. These sites also excluded providers as members, so generally the ladies were not aware of their overall ratings, quantity or identity of viewers. General consensus among certain groups (in particular the MP and K-girl afficionados) was that it was OK to publicly discuss information that could not be directly used to identify a provider to those not "in the know" but NOT to discuss info such as pricing, contact phone numbers etc, as such was to be kept to the private forums. Personally, I'm willing to provide info where I can, and exchange 411 in PMs BUT I stopped posting detailed reviews on open sites years ago...

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I agree. There are too many variables to truly gauge the ratio of reviewers to non reviewers or how much raw cock a provider is taking. But it is interesting to get other mongers take on the subject. With regard to non English speaking mongers, I understand there is at the very least one forum/site they use to review or share info. Always facinated by the many different facets of ths ruinous but pleasure filled hobby.

Are you thinking of those who use reviews but don't write them or those that might not even have an account on TER that lurk on a review site?

 
If the former perhaps the best crude estimate might be the number of online users to new reviews. I don't know how accurate those numbers are these days but at least are numbers someone can actually see. It would certainly be an upper limit (and probably a very over stated one given the numbers I see on the TER counts).

 
If you're thinking about just anyone looking at the site but not writing reviews who really knows. You'd need to have access to the site logs (so perhaps Useyrhead might be the best estimate there).

I mean, I understand what you wrote but I'm not sure I get the relation of your post to mine.  

 
A site was seized and owners prosecuted... well they were  
prosecuted for promoting I believe.

 
Also I disagree about details - as long as you evaluate the girls qualities and not writing a penthouse novel that mentions surroundings and such, I think one should be in the clear. But that is debatable, admittedly.

 
Still I don't get what it has to do with girls asking for no reviews. You think they are scared that because of reviews someone from le might visit them? In context of mp, sure it may be possible. In context of a korg, what does a review state that an org ad already doesn't? Lol.