My post was a reply to Badger, not you. I was merely pointing out that your criticism of my post also applies to Badger’s post. He posted an unqualified and universal statement that former American child stars were either drug addicts, armed robbers, or porn stars. How can any sane person think THAT?!
Query why you didn’t have the same criticism of Badger’s post like you had of my post.
Kim Saeron dead at age 24 by suicide. Her career was in decline and too bad nobody suggested she could make a comeback as a Kgirl in the US. Not bad looking.
she started out as a child actress in a hit korean movie. Looked pretty cute when she was in that movie.
Suicide in the Korean entertainment business is a big problem cause my online crictics and bullying.
she should have come here as a Kgirl to be worshipped instead of bullied. Can you imagine the line to waiting to see a Kgirl who was a former actress. It's a line I'd wait in, for sure.
Sure and can you image how happy she would be when a bunch if babo's start bragging about banging a K-star and word gets back home?
It's certainly a tragic event that she had to put up with so much abuse for something that many other Korean have been guilty of but never have to get much grief about because they are not known names. It's even worse that formal institutions such as news papers and new shows act the same as the idiot SM army of self-righteous losers with nothing better to do in life.
still has the same exit option, but meanwhile, she had some fun, created a new fan-base in the U.S., and made a shitload of money.
She would need to make alot of money if she intend to stay in the US within the travel time allowed for foreign visitors. Her talent agency gave her an ultimatum to reimburse them in the amount of of $500K. according to their contract. OUCH!!!!
…to become hookers. Just goes to show what K-mongers REALLY think of Korean women.
Agreed. One monger tells a joke and suddenly BigPapasan is ready to indict all K mongers. Very on brand for him.
Very on brand for him. CKS175 always tries to defend CDL as he does here, couching CDL’s OP and subsequent posts as a “joke.”
Sure, CKS, sure. Not even CDL claims he was joking… because he wasn’t!!
You did not just address CDL. You painted us all in one broad stroke, and are getting called out on it by multiple forum members here. That’s not white knighting, that’s pointing out a mistake you made.
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I agree. To even jokingly suggest that a woman is going to fix all of her problems by becoming a sex worker is ridiculous.
child stars are told anything.
They seem to become drug addicts and armed robbers all on their own!
iirc, they do turn to the porn industry, but I guess fucking for $ on film is ok!
“rather broad brush you have there”
You’re saying many American child stars become “drug addicts” and “armed robbers” and “turn to the porn industry.”
That’s how you try to defend CDL’s disgusting posts?!
What?
How can any sane person think my taking exception to your unqualified and universal statement to be some defense of CDL?
My post was a reply to Badger, not you. I was merely pointing out that your criticism of my post also applies to Badger’s post. He posted an unqualified and universal statement that former American child stars were either drug addicts, armed robbers, or porn stars. How can any sane person think THAT?!
Query why you didn’t have the same criticism of Badger’s post like you had of my post.
anyone or anything!
Most of the people on here are grown-ups and can take care of themselves!
Your post made it sound like American Child stars don't have problems.
Nothing universal about it!
I just put it down like I see how some American kids grew up pretty fucked up!
If you want to deny that fact, cool!
…ALL American child stars have problems.
“rather broad brush you have there”
You choose to put my name in the subject line. How did my comment related to Badger's and how did your post make a clear contrast between the two posts. If didn't so a reasonable read seems, for me at least, that you were suggesting both of us were defending CDL. I don't think Badger was either but he can speak for himself.
…to show Badger was using the same broad brush with regard to American child stars that you said I was using about K-mongers. I did not say, suggest or hint in any way, shape or fashion that you were defending CDL.
BTW, JENSEN, CDL has mentioned your name below. He has “confessed” that his OP was designed to “trigger the trolls.” CDL claims you “figured it out” and you “knew it was bullshit from the beginning.” CDL said you “played along with him” and you and CDL “had a little fun with the trolls to liven up this board a little.”
What say you, JENSEN? Is CDL right? Did you know from the very beginning that the “real” purpose of CDL’s OP was to “trigger the trolls?”
But first, your “broad brush” jab at KMongers.
…to show Badger was using the same broad brush with regard to American child stars that you said I was using
Now onto to the confession:
ahead of time, the responses would not have been spontaneous. You and Jensen know me better than most here, so when you each joined the discussion, I discerned a slight hesitation from each of you that told me you both suspected something was afoot, but unsure what. Granted, this was an odd position for me to take since I comment very little on girls here who are NOT already working Kgirls. After you said it was a joke, I thought it was over, but you can't keep a super-troll down and he kept coming back for more. Now, he is in damage control mode. Although it's trolling, he is probably the most predicable and consistent poster on TER. Every once in a while, it's just fun to bait him and let him make a fool of himself. He never fails to deliver a good laugh at his own expense. Lol
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I can see that now but I find your post was less than clear as it muddled 3 things in my view, which is why it seemed you were suggesting both of us were somehow defending CDL. But put that aside and I'll take it as me reading to fast and missing your meaning.
CDL may or may not have been doing that from the start. Initially I was not planning on responding at all but ultimately did. I thought the post showed a very insensitive consideration of a very tragic event, and one that occurs too frequently in South Korean (or perhaps all Korean) culture. I thought the suggested "solution" also missed the underlying cause of the problem.
I would have thought this regardless of whether I thought the post was about trolling anyone here or someone actually suggesting that somehow suggesting she try hooking to solve her problems. So, no, I was not playing along with anyone.
Now, do you want to clear up your claim that CDL's post is a good example of what k-mongers (unqualified so seems to be a universal claim) think about k-girls? Or do you want to restate that claim as something like "This is how CLD seems to think about k-girls" and then perhaps note that many of the other k-mongers don't hold the same view.
Besides sense of humor (maybe) lol
Did this girl do any escort work?
If not why is she mentioned here? I hope there isn't some weird association between random good looking Korean women and kgirls?
CDL clearly stated that someone who was a famous actress in Korea could make a “comeback” in the US as a K-girl. “Comeback?” WTF?
Lest you think CDL was joking, he doubled down with his second post. CDL posted that she would have been “worshipped” as a K-girl and there would be a long line of guys waiting to see her…including CDL.
If you STILL think CDL was joking, read his third post.
He projected what her life would have been as a K-girl -
“fun,” “fanbase,” “shitload of money.” Unbelievable!
CDL shows his true colors in this thread of how he really views Korean women.
suicide was a better option for her. My feeling has always been, "When life hands you lemons, add a little sugar, and make lemonade. It has nothing to do with my continuing love for Kgirls. A life ended needlessly when there were viable options is a complete waste. Granted, there may no way out of your life except suicide, but that doesn't mean there aren't better options for others.
Your post is more reflective of how YOU regard Kgirls, and always have. You denigrate them whenever you have the chance. Your assessment that coming back as a Kgirl is a fate worse than death is all we need to know about you. 20+% of Korean women will have worked in the sex industry at some time in their lives. It's not the scarlet letter that you think it is. But you have never even seen a Kgirl, so your opinion about any of this is worthless anyway.
Why are you are presenting false dichotomy in saying he means "suicide is a better option for her". What kind of idiotic fallacy is that? There is no other choice between suicide and becoming a kgirl?
If this wasn't a joke thread do you think we should make threads about random Korean women and speculate how good they'd be if they were escorts?
I got dibs on Mina Kimes if so.
on this board of Korean models, singers, soap stars, K-poppers, etc., who are NOT working Kgirls with a discussion about fucking them. Where have you been? Do you see the irony in YOU, of all people, the guy who regards Kgirl pussy as "product," becoming the board moralist? What a fucking laugh that is. You just made this a humorous thread, intentionally, or not, but we laugh AT you, not with you. Lol
You missed the point. Whether suicide is a better option is moot, because that is what she chose. It's already an indisputable fact in this instance. Read his post again. Given the FACT that she chose suicide, is there any other way to interpret his comment? Whoever said you were bright should be sent to bed with no supper.
Ah yes people always post pics of women who commited a suicide, lusting over them. No they don't. Lol.
I don't really see what my definition of product has to do with anything but I'll entertain you. Anything that can be sold is a product. Is pussy sold or rented ? Yes? Then it's a product. What's the problem here? Maybe if you referred to "pussy" as women then you'd have some point.
As far as the rest of my post, I clearly said that it's false dichotomy. You claimed bigp would rather see her die than become a kgirl.... and its a false choice you created. There is no such actual choice.
Do you want to see why it's a false dichotomy?
Go to any site that mourns a young woman's suicide and write how if they don't think she should have been an escort, this means they are OK with her dying.
Let me know when you do this so I can stopwarch time how long it will take for your post and your account removed from that site forever.
CDL is desperately trying to deflect, distract and divert from his ludicrous posts in this thread by claiming my post “sounds” to him as if I was saying “suicide was a better option for her.”
CDL is trying to distract from his despicable posts that being a WHORE is something she should have turned to after being in show business for 20 years.
People are not ALWAYS posting about Korean actresses and models they want to fuck any more than guys on other boards are posting about American actresses they want to fuck. But even if they daydream about fucking actresses, it’s just a fantasy; they don’t want the women to become WHORES like CDL does.
take your word for it. If anyone here knows, you do. Kudos on being an expert on SOMETHING from your own experience.
By the way, when "troll" is brought up, there is no need for you to raise your hand or otherwise try to get someone's attention. We all know already.
CDL can’t justify his repulsive posts intellectually, so he falls back to the only thing he has left - personal attacks.
Hey CDL: Is lopaw a “troll” too?
number ONE all-time troll on TER. This isn't the only board you have been called a troll on recently, and there have been multiple members saying it. It's like the first few days of existence of the Kgirl board. Your troll posts are still up, with others commenting in essence, "Oh, no, look who's here, the TROLL." Here you are, years later, still trolling the Kgirl board and have still never seen a Kgirl. What kind of a loser are you? I'll answer that for you . . . . . The sad, beaten kind with no friends.
There is nothing wrong with a being a troll if you own it, but you come here trying to pass yourself off as a serious Kgirl poster when you have never seen one. It's like protesting that you are straight while you're seeing trannies.
Confession: This was a set-up to trigger the trolls. While some others MAY HAVE been shocked a little and a few figured it out (like CKS and Jensen), the trolls have all revealed themselves. With that said, Lopaw is not a troll, but her perspective is different and she didn't catch the subtleties like some of the other Kgirl veterans did. It's reassuring that the VETERAN TROLLS all responded as expected. Everyone else was civil and stayed on topic except YOU and kumstain. Once a troll, always a troll. Kudos to those who didn't get sucked in to the fake outrage, especially CKS and Jensen, who knew it was bullshit from the beginning but played along, but we had a little fun with the trolls to liven up this board a little. Thanks guys. Another complete embarrassment for our RESIDENT TROLLS. Lol
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So you used a poor woman who died of suicide to bait people who you consider trolls on a message board dedicated to having sex with hookers ?
How ingenious of you. A true mastermind, I tell ya. What a deviously designed trap! What cunning!
so she won't mind. You can't slander the dead.
You should just be happy you made the cut. I only named the other two guys. Take the "W" and go home. Lol
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My last post on this board was on SEPTEMBER 5, 2024. I only posted TWICE here in the last EIGHT MONTHS.
Everyone on this board dislikes me.
No one wants me to post on this board.
Yet you are “confessing” that you posted your OP in order to get me to post on this board. Everyone else was ecstatic that I only had TWO POSTS IN EIGHT MONTHS but YOU wanted me to post.
ROFLMAO!!! What a load of BS!!!
YOU are the one who is in “damage control mode.” You’ll say anything to get out of admitting you were wrong to post your OP.
And saying anything includes throwing LOPAW under the bus. You claim “her perspective is different.” Why?? Because LOPAW is a woman? Your misogyny is showing again. LOPAW is as much a K-monger as anyone else on this board.
You also claim LOPAW “didn’t catch the subtleties” of your OP. Why? Are you saying LOPAW is dumb?
LOPAW said your OP was “ridiculous.” She was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Your OP was despicable, disgusting and repulsive.
You’re lying about JENSEN too when you say he “figured it out” re: your OP.
Show me where in JENSEN’s post he “figured out” that your intent was to “trigger the trolls.”
JENSEN took your post SERIOUSLY. He railed against the idiots who would inevitably brag about banging her so word would get back home.
JENSEN also decried the abuse she received and the grief it caused because she was well known.
NOWHERE did JENSEN indicate he “figured it out” that you were supposedly “triggering the trolls.” That’s another load of your BS.
But let’s hear what LOPAW and JENSEN have to say about their posts…and YOURS. We don’t need you misinterpreting their posts in order to cover your ass.
What tune is running through your head?
See how long your posts are getting and how you are all over the map? That's your "tell" that you are on the ropes. Lol
You mention Lowpaw in 4 paragraphs. Jensen in 4. Are you trying to summon them? Stir shit up?
You make a good point about cutting way back on your posting here at the KGirl Forum, and that’s appreciated. But that doesn’t mean your most recent foray into an argument with CDL isn’t trollish.
I had no idea why you posted as you did. I though it was in very poor taste and even if initially a game for you would say I think that is even worse.
I actually think this is a case, but fully expect you to question this, that you are just digging a deeper and deeper hole so will suggest juts stop digging further.
As for the comment about the dead, yes they are gone, but know one really knows where or if they are or are not aware of what occurs here any long. But more importantly they will have family and friends still alive and if this type of discussion were to become generally known to them I have no doubts it would cause further pain and suffering -- and probably general more of the same bullshit on the social media sites that lead to the decision to end it all (if possible). You might want to consider the old saying "Don't speak ill of the dead." You claim you cannot cause them harm and that may or may not be true. But it is much more clear that they are not going to be in any position to defend themselves from the accusations of others so we should not use them for silly posts on TER.
figured out when you didn't. I'll try not to give you too much credit in the future. CKS actually called it a joke in his post and I thought the jig was up. I guess I misinterpreted your responses as suspecting something was amiss with this whole thread when in reality, you were as clueless as the trolls. You still get credit for responding civilly to an obnoxious topic. If it wasn't in poor taste, the trolls would not have some out of their burrows.
I said I knew some would be shocked because I rarely post about non-Kgirl Korean girls. Your last paragraph shows that, just like the trolls, you took the whole thing seriously. Since you admit you didn't get it, would you like me to give you a heads-up next time before troll-baiting? Lol
No, please don't bother trying to give me any heads up about your posting. If you had told me in advance I would have thought you even more a classless person than I did initially for making such a post. But, you do you. I suppose you like the hole you've dug so don't see it as such.
You're right he likes it. I recall he's posted in the past acknowledging he's an asshole and proud of it.
an equal opportunity asshole. I don't play favorites. As you well know as much as anyone here, when you have it coming, I will deliver. Lol
is that you have lost your sense of humor over the past few years. It must be all of those lengthy threads with Rocket that nobody except the two or you read. Am I right? Being humorless in this biz will not get you as many good sessions as some of the rest of us are getting but being low-volume and humorless is even worse. I'll try to start something next time that you and rocket can make of a 20-foot thread about. I love to watch the two of you go off into the weeds. Lol