And if so do they ask about their own reviews or others? I’ would think the long term girls or bookers might do this. This practice always kept drama brewing in another area where I mongered. Girls would out mongers or other k-girls by word of mouth for practices they found distasteful. Caused havoc in the community for a while cause mongers were getting misidentified as offenders and kgirls were shuffling between studios to find oone that suited them. Never had a girl here ask me about a her reviews which is for the best I suppose.
read their own reviews AND the reviews of their competitors. The quick-turnover 90 days girls are not usually that interested, although the booker will tell them when they are new to ask for reviews, but they don't seem to understand exactly what that means. Many veteran girls who have been in the game for a long time actively manage their brand, and that's why a lot of them move around and keep the same name on tour even though the booker might prefer to rebrand them as a "new girl." They keep on top of their own reviews and monitor the reviews of girls they consider their prime competition. Even five or six years ago, I had girls, especially the legends that we all know in SoCal who would ask me if I saw their "new" review yet. When I booked two hours with one in particular, after the first pop, we would lay together and she would ask me to read her latest reviews of her and those of other girls she was competing against until I was ready for round two.
Many have become very savvy on how to manage their TER reviews. The content doesn't matter too much to them unless it claims services that she doesn't offer. A few first-tier Kgirls in the past have had reviews removed for this reason. There are two things that matter, and the top Kgirls know what it is . . . . 1) Keep the service standards up so that their average score stays above 8.0 even after a hundred or more reviews, and 2) Solicit reviews from mongers in a manner that keeps their name on page one of the review list for their city. (When a girl gets a new review, her name goes to the top of page one when you search Asian escorts in that city.) They have learned that MOST mongers will do a search, and will pick their next girl from page one amongst those girls that have an average of 8.0 and above. When they start to slide down page two for that city, they will ask one of their customers for a new review. Do your own study sometime on the Kgirls with 100+ reviews and see how often they bump back up to the top of page one. That means they are monitoring the search function every day and know when they need that next review to keep their name front and center.
In all of my Kgirl experiences, I have never been asked to write a review. I have never been asked if I've read their newest review(s) either. I can't recall the subject of reviews coming up ever during a session, not even with well known K-girls long established in L.A. Maybe it's because I never got close enough to any K-girls where they might bring up the subject of reviews?
Though one time a new K-girl I saw asked me if I thought her photos were beautiful. Other than that, professional life stuff hasn't come up during my visits.
Like you said, I'm sure that many of K-girls who have been at it a while do read their reviews. From what I've read on here over the years from others more in the know than I, even before this forum existed, that's always been the case.
Not all of them, but many do - ranging from curiosity to feedback for improvements.
A lot of time an "insider" or an overly attached monger will buy them a subscription on here/other review site or share his so she can look at the reviews. With translator apps being rampant, most girls can read reviews themselves and then ask specifics if they're not sure.
...so that they can look at their reviews. They can read their own reviews and have the ability to PM hobbyists by simply contacting TER and requesting that their usernames be linked to their TER profiles. But they don't do it because they don't give a shit about TER.
Take Eunji (TER ID: 359499) for example - 114 reviews and she still hasn't claimed her profile. She could be reading her reviews and PM'ing mongers but she and her agency don't give a shit about TER.
Nana (TER ID: 242020) - 8 years, 283 reviews and she hasn't claimed her profile so that she could read her reviews.
Pink - 105 reviews; hasn't claimed her profile.
Cami - 251 reviews in 5 years; hasn't claimed her profile.
These are just a few of many veteran K-girls who don't read their own reviews, contrary to what CDL claims.
Most of them don't want their username linked to their reviews because they don't want to deal with unsolicited PM's from fanboys, so they do not claim their profile, which is the only way you know FOR SURE that they are TER members. Therefore, you have no idea if these girls have paid for VIP (which is what most of them do) and are still reading their reviews. I guarantee that many are. Here's a newsflash for Rocket. Kgirls have credit cards and ATM cards. They can buy their own VIP, and that's what they do. One session with a reasonable tip pays for the whole year. Its an integral part of their own brand management.
While I completely agree with your assertion that MOST indies will just claim their profile, that is not what Kgirls do. Over the years I have received PM's from over 50 top-tier girls asking questions or for advice, and it always starts out with "This is Cami (or whoever) . . . . " because they are not using their working name as their TER username. Word has gotten around that I don't initiate future contact by PM with girls who have contacted me by TER PM, so they are comfortable messaging me this way.
I can also guarantee you that Cami and Eunji read their reviews. I don't know about the other two girls you named. In fact, ALL of the permanent girls at ca-kdolls read their reviews, but some are embarrassed to admit it. With touring girls, some do and some don't, but touring girls are usually second tier because they can't pull in enough regulars to stay in one place permanently. As far as being a regular, I'm sure I'm not the only one that has been asked by Kgirls if I have seen their new review.
Or contact random mongers via pm. They simply don't want to. Many change names. Many leave and don't want to be bothered. There are agency accounts on here, but not individual girls.
regulars read their reviews as this would require for them to become a VIP member and its just another overhead cost. Jazmin would frequently asked me to write a review and I tell her she got enough reviews to circle the earth, LOL
Girls begging for reviews is so pathetic.
Edit: to clarify, imo anyone begging or asking for reviews is pathetic. Only you decide when to write a review or whether to write one. Trying to advance your business through soliciting reviews is weak.
I remember a close family friend asked me to review his business. I asked him did he really want an honest review. And he said yes, thinking I'd give him five stars because he's a family friend. Boy did he get mad when he saw my review. I told him, hey if you think I was gonna lie to others just because you're my fam, you were delusional af. Truth >>>>
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Soliciting review is not a good practice in my opinion. A providers services (good or bad) merits a review. Can’t remember a provider asking for a review but if she did, I’d give her what she desevres (for better or worse).
Girls begging for reviews is so pathetic.
Edit: to clarify, imo anyone begging or asking for reviews is pathetic. Only you decide when to write a review or whether to write one. Trying to advance your business through soliciting reviews is weak.
I remember a close family friend asked me to review his business. I asked him did he really want an honest review. And he said yes, thinking I'd give him five stars because he's a family friend. Boy did he get mad when he saw my review. I told him, hey if you think I was gonna lie to others just because you're my fam, you were delusional af. Truth >>>>
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Agreed about the merits.
If a provider asks for a review, I usually tell her I'll think about it. If the provider wasnt good, I'll remind her if she wants a review, it will be an honest review
Even if she was good, I dislike the begging for reviews part. All she needs to worry about is doing the best job at her best capacity.
Maybe it's for the guys who usually don't write reviews or something.
Providers get "limited VIP" for free here which allows them to send and receive PMs AND gives them the ability to read their own reviews, but only their own reviews, they do not have the ability to read the reviews of other providers or to read the reviews of their prospective clients as an additional way of screening.
I haven't really had a lot to add around here of late, but I thought I'd chime in every once in a while to let everyone know I am still alive. lol
Probably got a few people disappointed with your post. Lol.
Yes, the rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated. rofl
how many girls do read their reviews, AND the reviews of the girls they consider their prime competition. I never thought to ask, but in 2014, when I was about 6 years into my hobby career, I had a girl bring it up to me on her own. I was shocked that she read her reviews on TER. She told me a lot of girls do, and she started naming about ten others that I had already seen. So its not something they may be inclined to bring up, but the ones that are "career-oriented" and who proactively manage their brand. Before that, I thought the same thing as BigP, . . . . they didn't claim their profile, so they were not reading their reviews. Once I started asking around to my regulars (girls who don't know you very well will seldom admit it), I was surprised how many there were.
I completely agree.
I learned about it in about the same time frame. Back when the girls we still call the Kgirl Legends were active. Only one of them claimed to not care about reviews to my knowledge. Those that I saw, except one, would add time at the end of our session to quiz me about various reviews that they weren’t completely sure about.
So, just like mongers who DM about various reviews, the girls check with mongers they trust to help them understand what is going on.
As long as private information (on both sides) remains private, improved communication and understanding helps everyone.
They read the threads on redbook, read the discussions here, and have read their reviews and of others out loud to me. What does this mean? Can you believe this? That's a lie. Oh, I know who this is. What do you think? etc. etc.
Why underestimate the intelligence and of women?
I fail to see how thinking they either read or don't read reviews, correlates to underestimation of anyone's intelligence here.
I posted this just hours prior to the recent outage. I’m sure it was just a coincidence that, shortly after I posted it, TER had an outage that deleted all recent posts.
Yes, K-girls read the reviews and forum comments. Far more of them read reviews and forum entries than you probably think. I’ve had many conversations with k-girls about their reviews and forum comments. They are business people. If they care about their business, they’d have to be an idiot to not read what their customers are saying about them.
Yes, org owners and managers read reviews and forum comments. K-girls who stay in this business and do well sometimes become org owners and/or managers. If you’ve been seeing k-girls for very long it is quite likely that you’ve seen a girl who either is a manager or org owner or who became one later. This has happened to me and I know of other mongers who have had the same experience. And these girls continue to read reviews and forum comments. The ironic thing is that some anti-org mongers enthusiastically do the market research for the orgs when they facilitate detailed discussion on pricing across the country. This is just a fact. Anyone who claims differently is either being less than honest or is naive.
Yes, law enforcement reads reviews and forum comments. They even write reviews and forum comments. I have friends in both federal and local law enforcement that have told me in detail about how they do research to find trafficking, etc. It almost always includes searching through monger forums and occasionally participating in them. And, yes, some of them become mongers themselves. But i only have heard of that happening from my friends. I don’t personally know any LE who are or were mongers.
The net is that we never know who is reading or writing reviews or forum comments. If you don’t want pretty much anyone in the world to read what you are writing, send a direct message of some type or don’t write it at all. And never completely trust anything you read unless you are absolutely sure you know and trust the person who wrote it. And, yes, that includes me.
You are free to believe the above or not. Up to you.
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