I get how guys are stupid about hot pussy but these ladies are have sex with many other guys every day. Why would you want an outside relationship with them in my experience they are into nothing but the money and are jaded not into you. There may and are exceptions to the rule but not in most cases just enjoy the hour or two you get and be done with it. I have met some great K-ladies in my years but most are doing this because they need money or want to fund a specific lifestyle.
I'm a-callin' you out!!!
Several threads back you insulted 😄 us old white dudes for being blind and overly grateful / generous in our reviewing habits.
It took me a while to remember (there's that age thing again...LOL) but I finally went back and compared our respective opinions about the ladies with whom we both have experience. For the thirteen ladies for whom we both submitted a review, I averaged 0.23 points LESS than you for appearance, and 0.46 points LESS than you for performance.
So WHO is blind and overly grateful now, oh wise one? On behalf of old white geezers everywhere, I demand an apology! 😄
Cheers,
BD
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research project for a slow day at work. I can't wait for Mr. BBQ's explanation. Lol
Old white geezers? REALLY?!! I RESENT, er . . . I mean, resemble that remark.
I Billy D, being of (somewhat) sound mind and body, do hereby move that in future posts mentioning his name, all mongers shall refer to our friend dance, as Mr. BBQ.
to overcome the typical white man blindness!!!!
Is respecting your elders not a big deal in Asian cultures, grasshopper? 😄
suffers from a little blindness of his own on why any of his Kgirls would want to ever date a white guy. He and I have discussed it often. Nevertheless, he is only slightly over 30 and has a wealth of knowledge about the Kgirl industry, although sometimes skewed to his own perspective, but don't we all? I admit I see Kgirls through the eyes of an older white guy, and that may be why they look so good to me. Lol
The OP was just me sticking up for old white guys and their eyesight when conducting a commercial transaction. 😄 I also remember that in his more prolific mongering (or maybe review writing) days, Mr. BBQ was not shy with the superlatives. 😄
Dating would never cross my mind: old, no money, no opportunity. And even if the aforementionef could be changed I don't think it would go over too well with the wife. 😄
Cheers,
BD
that you can get the wife on board with dating a young Korean girl. I'm single, so no worries about being found out. In your case perhaps you should approach your wife about adoption. You have to act fatherly in the beginning, the way Woody Allen did, but his wife found out, so you have to be more discreet than he was.
In Dance's case, when he was reviewing, it was before he was dating them on the outside and they wanted to obliterate his penis. When you get them on the outside for a date, about half are even better than when they're working, but the other half are worse, and its not easy to extricate yourself from the relationship at that point without a lot of drama, which may include attempted penis obliteration.
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is a 50-50 proposition with regard to the quality of the performance?
Another good reason for me to avoid the temptation.
Of course, that being said, in order for one to avoid temptation, one first needs to be tempted by a temptress. So I think I am safe! 😄
and the girl has feelings for you, then they will often be much more intimate and genuine than in their paid sessions with customers. On the other hand, if they are dating you because they have some kind of scam agenda, or its merely a "thank you" date for being a steady customer, then the outside time will not be as exciting as the paid sessions. It all depends on the girl's frame of mind and what her reasons are for going outside with you. I have heard literally hundreds of stories of guys going out with Kgirls, falling in love, and then forking over $15,000 or more for "mom's operation." All Korean mom's must get the same illness, because the cost of the surgery is most often $15,000. Of course, the $15,000 helps the girl change her name, get new photos and relocate to another city, never to be heard from again.
Might be interesting for some who have been scammed to start an educational thread here about how the girl went about taking advantage of them. No judging from me if you were taken because these girls are so good at manipulating their customers, especially the younger ones. Your guard must always be up.
$15,000 in one shot? That's SIXTY appointments. Some of you dudes are fucking BALLERS!!!
Or failing that, one of those about whom Thomas Tusser was speaking four hundred plus years ago...
Well at least this is one hobby pitfall about which I need not worry.
Cheers,
BD
They tend to target the young and lonely; guys that are awkward socially that have limited experience with women in general, and don't know what red flags to look for on whether they are being set up for a scam. Married guys like you are generally not a good target because the girls know most of you can't put your hands on a chunk of big money like that and keep it secret from the wife.
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because she only asked me for $10,000 not $15,000 a few days after we started dating.
I have to give her credit, she set it up well. I saw her for one paid date and she "claimed" to have taken a liking to me and I almost immediately started spending just about every night with her OTC, leaving each morning for each of us to go back to work.
Barely a week into the "relationship" she asked me for ten grand, I don't even remember the reason for it as once I heard the words "ten thousand dollars" the rest of what she said was just so much "blah blah blah" lol Now of course my mother didn't raise any fools and keep in mind she asked while we were in bed naked and BEFORE we had actually had sex that night, so I wasn't about to give her a flat no and end up with no pussy for the night. I of course told her "sure, no problem, but it will have to wait until I get back from my trip to Atlanta next week". That made her happy, which in turn made me happy. lol
Fast forward to the next week. I return from Atlanta to be met with a barrage of text messages wanting to get together "right now" I of course ignore them and just a few days later find out through the grapevine that she had returned to Korea PERMANENTLY, but fortunately without my ten thousand dollars. lol
I guess that's the difference between me and the suckers who get roped in by these scammers, they get all pissed off about getting scammed while I have a good laugh about the "attempts" to scam me. I guess it's also why I am hardly bitter or angry after all of these years of seeing hookers. Only the stupid guys who don't know how the game is played get bitter or angry. lol
to go with the poetic justice of scamming them BEFORE they can scam you. Once you have been doing this awhile, its easy to see the set up coming. I always warn them up front when it first goes outside the incall NOT to try to scam me. I tell them to be sincere and they will find me a generous boyfriend in the long run. Most can't help themselves, they just HAVE to try to con you, because its part of their way of life (manipulating men out of their money) so they get what they deserve from those of us that are ready for them.
I have likewise had a few sweethearts that didn't try to scam me who came out really well just playing it straight with me. You have to reward honesty and punish dishonesty when you see it.
Even after asking them not to scam, they still make an attempt? What do you do then?
How nice it must be when they aren't attempting to scam and sincerely enjoy time outside the apartment.
Always on your toes for the money request?
See GaG's example above. Part of the deception, as GaG describes, is providing you with OTC sexual favors, just like you would have with a real girlfriend. They consider this an investment in the scheme and it costs them nothing out of pocket. This blinds a lot of guys to what's coming and why they often fall for it. Once the scam is exposed, you take a few more freebies by stalling a little, and then go ghost on them, just the way they would do you if you handed over $15,000.
On the flipside, I have been exceedingly generous with girls that have been in outside relationships with me and never asked for anything except for me to spend time with them when they were not working.
One of these days, I write a book about all the ways guys get scammed by working girls in general, not just Kgirls.
and I am certainly not cynical or jaded about these girls like Muffy or Dance. I have had several LTR's with hookers, both K-Girl and others and "most" of those relationships were not scams.
But just because I go into these relationships with an open mind doesn't mean I let myself get played. I have been around hookers pretty much all my life, there really is not a lot of "original thought" left in this business, pretty much all the scams look the same after you've been around them for forty years. Let me put it this way, 99% of the scams "some" of these girls try to pull can be seen a mile away after you've been doing this for long enough.
To answer your first question. When they try to scam me, I will either kick them to the curb, string them along for a while, or both.
I don't mind giving her that kind of money if I'm into the girl. infact, having a real girlfriend is more expensive than casual fuck aka hobbying. I don't think my parents will be happy about that, but hey this is my life.
old P.T. Barnum was right...
going to like it even less if you tell them she's a working girl.
I brought a hooker GF "home to meet mom" one time. This was over five years ago and they are still Facebook Family although her and I have been done for some time now.
I guess some parents are more open minded than others. I was a bit apprehensive at the thought of bring a girl thirty years younger than me home to "meet mom", but my mother was dating a guy a year younger than me at the time, so I felt on pretty safe ground. lol
BTW not that I really think it matters, but the girl was white, not a K-girl, but keep in mind my mother is Chinese, so I doubt her race really would have mattered.
You and the hooker or you and your mom? Lol
I get how guys are stupid about hot pussy but these ladies are have sex with many other guys every day. Why would you want an outside relationship with them in my experience they are into nothing but the money and are jaded not into you. There may and are exceptions to the rule but not in most cases just enjoy the hour or two you get and be done with it. I have met some great K-ladies in my years but most are doing this because they need money or want to fund a specific lifestyle.