Ya, it fustrating, imagine if your the provider. It really sux but who knows what really goes on there. Really hope the provider find another place to advertise, cuz as long as their ad site link with the other place, they get hits no matter what.
Or start doing what I do, and ask the booker to start linking the ad with TER review link or # in it. It only a extra line they gotta type in. Cuz let face it, the other place isn't gonna change.The other place well known for combining profiles has done it again, this time coming Pink, Aya, and Asami all out of Orange County and all with same email address. Since I have seen them all I can attest they are not all the same girl. Very sad because all 3 are great providers in their own right, but different styles. Booker filed problem report but was blown off. Just goes to show you they really don't care about anything except money.
and no surprise they denied my quick tip post letting members know of combination, didn't allow post in discussion forum and didn't bother responding to problem report. They just really don't care at best, at worst are targeting agency girls and disrupting their business.
Ya, it fustrating, imagine if your the provider. It really sux but who knows what really goes on there. Really hope the provider find another place to advertise, cuz as long as their ad site link with the other place, they get hits no matter what.
Or start doing what I do, and ask the booker to start linking the ad with TER review link or # in it. It only a extra line they gotta type in. Cuz let face it, the other place isn't gonna change.
These charlatans don't care about their advertisers nor their users and need to be taught a lesson from which they never recover .
Providers and agencies need to cancel their ads on the sister sister site.
Verified providers should cancel their accounts.
STOP posting review on the septic tank instead post on TER
Mongers should not seek verification which is redundant with KDs anyway .
Boycott their private groups and if you currently have a group there shut it down
Don't post on their boards unless you are putting haters in their place .
They only reason they have any reviews is because of LA and BA KD reviewers . Do these lose punks a favor and out them out of their misery .
The KD can fight back by creating their own more affordable ad site while mongers boycott the site .
I'm doing exactly this.
Don't know how much I'll post, but I am between ATFs, so probably a little more than recently
From what people have told me, Eros has really clamped down on ID requirements for provider ads since RB went down. That other ad site don't have the same ID requirement and much cheaper than Eros. Even long time agency advertisers in my area who have posted Eros ad for a long time are getting their ads rejected.
The only problem is they don't allow links to TER reviews. Otherwise the ad site is OK. But the review site they are associated with allows false and malicious reviews in addition to combining profiles and in general ignoring problems and totally messing things up.
They are refusing ,despite irrefutable evidence that the ads are of different providers ,to separate merged profiles of providers who have different names , different ads , look completely different , work in different cities . What has that got to do with the ad site . What evidence do you have that the problems with the profiles of Amber , Stella , Rebecca , Minnie , Fanta to name a few have to do with the ad site.
Who is still supporting them by creating of private groups and posting reviews .
You are hijacking the OP like you did the last one .
Maybe you should read this post again :
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=3341&boardID=113&page=1#3341
These profiles that are maliciously combined with intent to hurt the providers would be of legitimate providers with legitimate
Ads . However, despite all this and problems reports by dozens the charlatans who mismanage the septic tank insist that the girls are the same.
The questions to be asked is WHY are they doing it and WHO is behind it ? Who are these shady character behind the septic tank ?
Honestly I wouldn't be suprise if there invovled in extortion of these girls or bookers. They just figure these girls make $$$ I want a pieces, and if they don't pay up then I'm gonna ruin there reputation. That place simply looks incompetent on the outside, but yet at deleting things of embaressement or shows of corruption they are very quick, not to mention banning of anyone they feel is a threat.
As of right now, I think again, all providers should post a link to the TER site for there reviews, if you see anyone let them and the booker know what going on, and how important it is to link a TER review to the ad.
Cuz in all honesty, let say people stop writing reviews. What makes you think they won't write it themselves, and make it look like there busy.
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Just as you can't post those ad links on TER reviews, they don't allow TER reviews on those ads. For that matter, I don't think Eros lets you post links to TER reviews either.
Until 2 years ago there was no septic tank. Almost the those featured on the ad site , with reviews , including KDs were reviewed on TER . The ads had Links to the KDs TER profile and the profiled had a link to the KDs ads on the ad website.
Given that TER policy forbids having competing review sites links on TER once the Ad site launched the septic tank as a review site TER severed relations with the ad site and removed all the links of ads from that site .
However , around the same time the blog was launched and until it was criminally hacked the septic tank since it was a non competing ( no reviews ) blog their profiles were permitted in TER profile . After the hacking the blog expanded it profiles. They and similar one are being used by TER and as a result TER is back in the KDs review scene.
But the KD do not need the blog , the mall or Eros . They can create their own basic websites that would serve their need and generate a small fortune for them in saved ad money.
I think we need to focus on the OP. Xnyong has a habit of hijacking the OPs that expose the septic tank.
The entire sentence should have been, one big problem with abandoning that other site altogether is that they are locked in with the other ad site. These girls need a big enough of an outlet to advertise and one alternative advertising site, Eros has completely clamped down on requiring IDs for all providers. I think the reason why that other ad venue has taken off is their cheap cost and complete lack of any verification for providers. Even if by some magical means, all the bookers and owners decided to abandon that other ad site and want to advertise somewhere else, what alternative is there at the moment? Do you really want to see them on BP? How many girls will give up their ID for Eros? Will some new ad venue have enough viewership to meet their needs?
These are questions that have to be answered before you can completely cut ties.
That's the challenge. We need to come up with a solution since that site appears unwilling to reform in any way. At this point they seem to be actively punishing the Providers they don't like by allowing obviously fake reviews and mixing obviously different profiles, then refusing to make the correction.
At first it was so sadistic it was hard to believe, but the existing proof supports that they are actively pushing for women to be sexually assaulted and injured by allowing obviously fake reviews and mixing profiles that lead to incorrect profiles involving services. If someone were to set out to promote the sexual assault and mistreatment of a Provider, they could not do a better job than they are doing.
For that reason, they have come to be hated in other regions outside LA and the BA. If a guy mentions he reviews girls on that site in places like Seattle, we consider him a promoter of the sexual assault of women. I realize there is always going to be some misogyny in the hobby, but that place seems to be a magnet for it. I think that's one reason we have seen such a steep drop off in K girl reviews on that site and an increase in reviews on TER and regional boards. Most guys don't want to be associated with a sleazy site like that.
You say you don't want them to turn to BP, but given that the current ad sites leads to dangerous reviews on that sleazy review site, is the current situation any better than BP?
I wish LA/BA girls would turn to something like Eros, but it seems things are going backwards even in Seattle where that other site seems to be gaining traction and Eros losing ads.
Closer to OT, I heard through back channel that they closed a private group for LA/OC girls after the group moderator raised issues with Rebecca's review. So even though they say " you’re the moderator………..decide who participates and who doesn’t.
You have complete control……….. it’s time to take the next step……………… try it out: Private Groups", that's definitely not the case.
So their private group claim is as big a lie as their verified provider owns her own profile lie. Not surprising, but good to know. Apparently anyone who says anything positive about a Provider there is attacked and banned and anyone who posts a malicious lie on either the forum or as a review is celebrated in their "review at any cost" world.
That site will never gain traction in Seattle. We are actively hunting down their miscreant still born members and converting or destroying them. That other review site is a parasite that can only survive in a region if the host dies the way the K girl scene did here before we resuscitated it, or that other site in the BA that imploded. That site feeds on the dead carcass of better sites for it's membership.
That site is where you go when there are no other options left. We have a better option in Seattle.
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understand this abuse does not come with the job and must be countered . Some top tier KDs in the BA have their LAKS Links on the septic tank related ad site ads . Others have their exclusive ad site
http://citykgirls.com/models
Even in LA some bookers have submitted their pics to the blog to make profile . It should not be and need not. Be but it is a slow process . But make no mistake about the ANSWER is AVAILABLE the KD establishment is willing .
That site will never gain traction in Seattle. We are actively hunting down their miscreant still born members and converting or destroying them. That other review site is a parasite that can only survive in a region if the host dies the way the K girl scene did here before we resuscitated it, or that other site in the BA that imploded. That site feeds on the dead carcass of better sites for it's membership.
That site is where you go when there are no other options left. We have a better option in Seattle.
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We will continue go after individual members of that site who post reviews there and let them know they are supporting the predators who run that site and use it as a weapon to attack the girls and place them in harms way.
I've found most reviewers don't want to see the girls injured and raped the way the owners of that site do, so once they are provided with a few examples of what they have not just allowed, but encouraged to be posted about the girls, they generally agree to stop posting there. That's why their review numbers are declining and will continue to do so. Most guys don't hate these girls and resent the snuff type reviews they allow. Once we point them to these fake and predatory reviews they allow on that site, it's easy to convince them why they should never post there again and turn to TER instead.
They've already done everything they can to hurt the girls and done nothing more than discredit themselves, so they are now powerless to hurt anyone, including the girls they tried to target by encouraging physical abuse against them.
Meanwhile, they cannot touch us and we have nothing but time on our side. With every new fake predatory review they allow, they provide us with more ammunition against them. They are truly destroying themselves, we are simply applauding while the do it.
In fact, I just converted another member against them yesterday. They make it so easy.
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identified and their handles placed on a public List of Shame . They and the reviewers who know the concerns and still continue to feed the septic tank with reviews should be on a public list .
I've found most reviewers don't want to see the girls injured and raped the way the owners of that site do, so once they are provided with a few examples of what they have not just allowed, but encouraged to be posted about the girls, they generally agree to stop posting there. That's why their review numbers are declining and will continue to do so. Most guys don't hate these girls and resent the snuff type reviews they allow. Once we point them to these fake and predatory reviews they allow on that site, it's easy to convince them why they should never post there again and turn to TER instead.
They've already done everything they can to hurt the girls and done nothing more than discredit themselves, so they are now powerless to hurt anyone, including the girls they tried to target by encouraging physical abuse against them.
Meanwhile, they cannot touch us and we have nothing but time on our side. With every new fake predatory review they allow, they provide us with more ammunition against them. They are truly destroying themselves, we are simply applauding while the do it.
In fact, I just converted another member against them yesterday. They make it so easy.
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is making the providers/ agencies realize they have all the answers and should assume control over the means they market themselves and own the task of controlling their business . No need for Eros or BP . Create their own sites . In the meantime
TER has regional AD pages and the blog has almost single handedly restored the status of the KD on TER LA review board and opened up SJ/ SF . Until the KDs can take charge here are the alternative to the septic tanks affiliate ad site.
LA
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/messageList.asp?boardID=78
SF
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/messageList.asp?boardID=96
LAKS
http://lakstyleblog.com
I am glad the septic tank shut down their KD monitored forum . Serves those who were stupid enough to join right for trysting the septic tank. Anyone who is part of a septic tank private group is engaged in aiding and abetting the enemy of the KDs.
At first it was so sadistic it was hard to believe, but the existing proof supports that they are actively pushing for women to be sexually assaulted and injured by allowing obviously fake reviews and mixing profiles that lead to incorrect profiles involving services. If someone were to set out to promote the sexual assault and mistreatment of a Provider, they could not do a better job than they are doing.
For that reason, they have come to be hated in other regions outside LA and the BA. If a guy mentions he reviews girls on that site in places like Seattle, we consider him a promoter of the sexual assault of women. I realize there is always going to be some misogyny in the hobby, but that place seems to be a magnet for it. I think that's one reason we have seen such a steep drop off in K girl reviews on that site and an increase in reviews on TER and regional boards. Most guys don't want to be associated with a sleazy site like that.
You say you don't want them to turn to BP, but given that the current ad sites leads to dangerous reviews on that sleazy review site, is the current situation any better than BP?
And instead post them on the on TER . The agency along with other OC outfits have their own website ,and can do away with the services of the ad site associated with the septic tank .
Pink is an established star who has over 220 reviews on TER . She does not need to be reviewed on the septic tank . She is the most popular KD in OC/SD . I am not sure if Aya is Kaycee / Asian , in which case this KD is done .
There were providers that were posting PM they would get from guys saying, hey give me a free session and I'll give ya a good review, and laughing about it, and those post got deleted.
But yes k-girls have it the worst. I think Rebecca and Stella are probably getting it the worst because they dared speak up, and now the other site has to punish them.
Look it simple, there plenty of girls that that puts ads there that link to the reviews here, and yes I know that you can't link reviews, but you can put the TER ID. It will just take 2 extra sentences.
What the ad is then it just add
My TER ID is ####### for reviews, as the review site here has mixed up my review with another provider.
That it. Yes I know it not much, but at least it a warning.
And when you do see the provider tell the provider and booker, please link the TER ID with the ad, as the site reviews are malicious, and trying to ruin you guys.
The ads belong to and are paid for by the KDs personally . They or their reps can put whatever links or copy they wish ( no explicit language ) for the privilege of paying $250 per month . You can check the ads several Top girls in the BA including Ceroni , Pink and Asia and you'll discover their blog profiles links included in their ad site ads.
The challenge is getting the agencies and independent KDs to realize they don't need to take the malicious abuse . In the BA they have a KD ad sites . Here is one who is used for TER reviews.
http://citykgirls.com/models
Yes the the abuse goes beyond the KDs but I stick post about the cases I know about and stick to the OP .
But yes k-girls have it the worst. I think Rebecca and Stella are probably getting it the worst because they dared speak up, and now the other site has to punish them.
Look it simple, there plenty of girls that that puts ads there that link to the reviews here, and yes I know that you can't link reviews, but you can put the TER ID. It will just take 2 extra sentences.
What the ad is then it just add
My TER ID is ####### for reviews, as the review site here has mixed up my review with another provider.
That it. Yes I know it not much, but at least it a warning.
And when you do see the provider tell the provider and booker, please link the TER ID with the ad, as the site reviews are malicious, and trying to ruin you guys.
The lunatics have taken over the asylum. That's pretty clear.
One good thing that has resulted from all of this turmoil is that the entire hobby community now knows you can't trust anything you read on that site. Eventually, it will wither and die because no one with any credibility will post reviews there for fear of being tarnished by association. And no one will read reviews or forum posts that are known to be 99% fabrication. Word is spreading rapidly as their reputation plummets.
If you didn't already know -- there are three guys at AFraud who are causing most of the problems. They are burning that site to the ground. I'm pretty sure that's them in the video..
I agree with ya things are bad seeing how LA and most post are a dead zone there. However, the main problem is that they are still link to that advertise site. Again I can't express that enough if you see a provider, or talk to a booker ask them to link there TER ID with the ad since you can't link the review page here.
And it just be so simple whatever there ad is just add in 2 extra sentences of
My TER ID is ###### please check it out for reviews, as the review site that this site is link too has mixed up my review with another provider and is in-accurate at this time.
Especially Rebecca and Stella who that site basically told the preditors to have a field day with.
But man you have everything on that site. They recycling old reviews and post them up as new. Stealing reviews from here or anywhere else and posting them up there, as new reviews. Or just taking a review from one provider and posting it up with another provider and saying it new.
Don't post there or participate in their forums and encourage others to do the same. Tell providers, bookers, agencies you will only post reviews on TER or other local boards. Starve the cancer.
And it just be so simple whatever there ad is just add in 2 extra sentences of
My TER ID is ###### please check it out for reviews, as the review site that this site is link too has mixed up my review with another provider and is in-accurate at this time.
Especially Rebecca and Stella who that site basically told the preditors to have a field day with.
But man you have everything on that site. They recycling old reviews and post them up as new. Stealing reviews from here or anywhere else and posting them up there, as new reviews. Or just taking a review from one provider and posting it up with another provider and saying it new.