I am just so flabbergasted and also curious. Just saw a review in LA for "Pocket Girl". Naturally I had to click on her ad.

The ad promises BBFS.

What. The. FUCK? Is this a west coast phenomenon? I mean, I've heard of BBFS happening here in NOVA, and I'm not really sure how common it is, (I hope not too common, as you can tell from my tone here) but its never advertised.

Do guys really not give a fuck about going BBFS freely?

Am I crazy? WTF is going on ?

Feel free to PM me with anything you don't want public. I'm just totally at a loss for words! Reassure me, monger bros, tell me everything is gonna be okay!

That is for the explicit ads for BBFS. The discussions about BBFS and the section of the mongers on the west coast that push for BBFS has been going on longer.

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Kgirls up here in the Bay Area expect it now. It's pretty recent, maybe the last year or so. I'm sure it was happening before, but not as widely. I don't partake, but sometimes have to almost argue to get a wrapper.

There’s been a significant push for BBFS ever since I can remember.

 
Back in the bad old rouge livre days there was a group of guys led by a monger with “six” in his handle. Their leader drove a taxi service for the girls and claimed to run other errands for the orgs. The group was ruthless about “converting” girls to the advantages to the kgirls and their business that they claimed for BBFS. They developed a playbook for how to convince a girl that going BBFS was the only way to be successful long term in the business here.

 
Because I saw a lot of the top tier girls back then the BBFS gang kept messaging me and trying to convince me to join them. They said that adding the girls I saw to their growing BBFS list would be amazing. And that they would teach me how to convert them and even help me with the method that required a full court press with a bunch of a specific girl’s clients all saying the same thing.

 
They also sent me their playbook for review so that I could see how easy it was to convert a girl to BBFS.  

 
As I think CDL said, though maybe it was someone else, the intense pressure here in the Bay Area for a girl to offer BBFS (and do it for free) is one of the things that contributes to making this area less attractive for top tier girls.

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A decade ago, pse meant simply energetic hardcore fucking and BB was a no-no to mention in most forums. I believe ter included, altho I wasnt around bac then.  

 
About the most run it had was a group on LA forums of certain site that had a guide in the name. There was a group dedicated specifically to finding out which kgirl were OK with BB.

 
LA was the birth of kgirls doing BB and people knowing about it. But it still stayed on the DL.  

Fast forward four years ago or so. A bay area group known as Sam's org or Asian angels finds (I believe it's attributes to Sam) a way to let people know if kgirl will do BB - use pse if she does BB and gfe.

 

This, along with stricter screening, was a huge suprise for me, who got back into the game after a long hiatus. I was used to pse meaning energizer bunny, hardcore fucking, dt and so on.

This got very popular in the bay. LA orgs also started using it, but then a rumor has it a  girl - rumored to be Jamie who first appeared here - was so popular in Vegas she decided to have an upcharge for bbfs.

 

Upcharges started to get popular and orgs didn't give a shit anymore, they all say bbfs in the open. If there's a good part about upcharge, if any, is that you wanna see a BB girl but fuck her with a rubber, you don't gotta pay the upcharge.

And so here we are. Bbfs advertising is common in LA. It is common here too but just under guise of pse moniker.  

 
As far as safety - I was a staunch antibbfs guy back in the day but at some point that fight wasnt worth fighting. Plus I also succumbed to the BB temptations several times, and at that point I'd be a hypocrite. Sometimes I just couldn't do anything when a girl just stuck me in with no questions nothing.

Couple high volume in the bay with how often people bbfs and you get the idea of why some people harshly call pse kgirls cum dumpsters. Technically, it's not incorrect,but still imo unfair to girls to call them that. This is yet another reason I rarely daty,as I mostly see pse girls. Theyre always clean, but high volume you know a dude with a long schlong can deposit deep down and they might not have enough time.  

Feel free to pm me about this topic, but Im sure others have covered it well. For your area, I'd say Jensen should know the situation. As you have west coast girls come through, many of them do bb here.  

Cheers.

in LA to openly advertise BBFS Kgirls.  (Booker M would "hint" which girls were BBFS before that, but it was never published anywhere, and the girls still reserved the right to refuse on a case by case basis, so it was more YMMV++  -  Lol.)   It was right after CV and TER went dark around April of 2018.  The girls they get are rarely as pretty as the photo's suggest, and there is a $100 upcharge for BBFS to $360, but its a sure thing, so a lot of guys started going there.  As you might guess, some of the girls that go through there are NK's.