take flowers to a K-girl incall . . . . .

I saw one of my regulars yesterday and noticed on the small table in the bedroom a bouquet of what looked like a dozen red roses, still wrapped in the tissue paper from the florist, about three days old, and on their last leg.  I picked them up and jokingly asked, "You have a new boyfriend?"  She rolled her eyes and said, "When will they learn we would rather have a cash tip?"

The funny thing is, I have heard this from many K-girls.  Hobbyists that think they are going to make an impression with flowers need to wake up and smell the roses (no pun intended.)  K-Girls DO NOT WANT FLOWERS.  They don't have time to put them in water; they don't routinely have vases lying around the incall; and they barely have enough time between customers to change the linens and towels and catch a quick cigarette, get rid of the smell, and be smiling to greet the next customer.  Accordingly, some guy probably spent $50 at some florist on a dozen red roses, and the girl would have rather had a $30 or $40 tip, and would be much more appreciative.  So as effusive as they might be to your face at how sweet you are when you present the flowers (which is just good business), they really could care less, and won't give them another thought once you are out the door.

The second reason has to do with security.  These incalls do not operate in a vacuum.  They are in a regular apartment complex populated with civilians, who might not appreciate the convenience of having a K-girl incall as a neighbor, especially the wives.  When you approach with a bouquet of flowers, you draw attention to yourself.  When entering and leaving an incall, you want to be as inconspicuous as possible.  In fact, if there is ANYONE in the area, I routinely will walk past the door to the incall and then circle back when it is clear of nosy neighbors.  Bringing flowers raises all kinds of questions in the minds of neighbors, like, "why does one of the two cute Asian girls that lives there have a 50-year-old Caucasian boyfriend who brings them flowers?"  And then the next day, it is a different man bringing flowers.  It doesn't take long for them to figure out what is going on and report it to the complex manager or to LE.    

So PLEASE, if you have a desire to do something nice for a girl, forget the flowers and just give them a nice tip.  Otherwise, you are unnecessarily increasing the risk for yourself, the girls and all of your fellow hobbyists that might visit that incall after you.  

Just my opinion based on eight years of hobbying with K-girls.  You are free to disagree.  Just let me know where you are going to show up next with your flowers, so I can stay away.  Lo

especially if the rate and service are a real bargain (They often are.)

But, if you just have to give a gift, I never met a K gal who didn't go ga-ga for jade jewelry.
 
Try it and see

Probably but I'm sure the guys leaving flowers get the impress those are appreciated as well. I suspect they would like the money and the option to buy their own jewelry themselves

Not always the case and you'd need to know what they like, but as the lion says, these girls don't always get much time, and they have a lot of other responsibilities (I've never seen a messy or smelly location) so fixing meals is an added task. Bringing a light snack (from your local Korean bakery perhaps) can be welcomed. Don't try this on a first date though!

Side note, I'm sitting here watching  "May Love be Restored", a Japanese movie about childhood friends one becomes a monk the other is sent to a brothel by her parents. As reading this a scene that was a bit pertenent -- what to these working girls really want from a client came up.

They would always show their appreciation for the flowers even though they don't want them, because a guy that will gift is also a guy that will tip instead with a little nudging the next session that they are not into flowers.    

Fisher is correct on the jewelry, but it gets a little trickier and you should know the girl well (6+ sessions IMO) first.

I suppose the key here is the knowing tastes well enough to give the right jewelry. That said, and I've never broached the subject so far, I would wonder if the jewelery worn is a good indication of a girls taste or just part of the outfit? I cannot help but think that for many it's part of the persona that's put on like the clothes and makeup. (Though I have to say seems like over the past half year or so the degree of make up I've seen has gone down -- which is generally fine by me).

Makes more than enough sense, cash is king and forget the gifts. Treat the dolls well and appreciate that we have them.

...of the profiles say "smokes - no."

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that they're not all 21-25.

i dont know man all the kgirls i knew appreciated the gifts.  Really could care less about the tips.  Sure some didnt have time to put the flower in vases but they still cared.   Your gal who rolled her eyes that  one is a weird one.   Doesnt even sound like a typical kgirl more like an americanized one.  

And im not sure you really know how kgirls operate.  Not all smoke..haha..

As for drawing attention...from my ecoerience bldg managers and neughborhoods know already.  They are not stupid..cctv cameras and different guys heading to same apt etc.  they just ignore.

By the way wooing them works.  Not all are heartless...lol reason so many have BFs or get married.  Why they pick some guys over others now thats the real mystery! Lol.

8yrs huh... Im sure we shared the same gal then.  maybe i ate one of your chocolates or took your teddy bear home! Thanks! Lol.

This reminded me of an experience I had with a provider a few weeks back. On my way out after the session, the provider asked me in broken English if I wanted something sweet to eat and revealed a large half-eaten box of chocolates. I wasn't hungry and the disheveled box didn't look that appetizing, so I declined. At the time I thought she bought them for her clients for some reason, now I realize it makes much more sense that the chocolates were a gift from a previous client

I would on occasion bring some In & Out cheeseburgers to my regulars kgirls and their roommate and friends in the building. It was certainly a change of pace from their standard Korean food toward their end of their day cuisine.  

Never met a Kgirl that didn't like in-n-out or any of the burgers from burger restaurants.  As I was showering after a session with one of my regulars a few years ago, she asked if I would take her out for a hamburger right then.  I called the booker and told him about it and asked what he wanted me to do.  He said have her back by 4:30.  Once we got there she asked me to buy one for her roommate to take back.   No big deal.  Two years later when I saw the roommate for the first time for a session, she said, "You're the one that got me the hamburger and I never got to thank you."  She thanked me real good.

When first got into this hobby I was requested to go Burger King and pick up a Cheese Burger and Fries! HaHa The Lady is still active, maybe I should revisit. She opened the door to some wonderful times.....

to the party and missed so much.  Of course K-girls like gifts.  My OP was just talking about cash versus flowers.  They will be happy to share the chocolates you brought with the other customers, but they will not share the cash, so which makes a better impression.  As Fisher points out above, if you want to make a splash, jewelry is the way to go, but make sure you know what they like, or they will regift it to someone else.  Also, jewelry is easily concealed and does not draw any attention from others.  

I disagree with you on how much the neighbors know.  I know of several incalls that have been moved because neighbors got a little too nosy and started asking questions.  As far as cctv goes, they are usually only in the parking garage or the lobby.  I always look for them, and have been to most of the locations in LA and OC.  If I ever saw a cctv camera monitoring who goes into an incall, I would not go in.  

Kgirls are human and wooing them will make them like you back, but don't think they are falling in love with you.  Its still a business for them, and you are the customer.  I found out that from experience you are not really a boyfriend until they tell you you can't see them at their incall, only at their residence, and of course, you don't pay anymore.  Barring that, you are just a customer.  

We all know that not ALL Kgirls smoke.  The majority do, but they are great about keeping the evidence off of their hair and bodies.  A few times I have seen a particular girl 5 or 6 times before I got my first hint that she was a smoker.  Other times, I don't find out until we are on an outside date and she steps away from me to have a cigarette.  The ones that don't smoke in between customers get to fold towels, so they still don't have time to mess with flowers.

I've seen Cona and Gaga from your list this year.

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Yes doing this brought a lot of goodwill to my kgirl regular and her counter parts in the same building. When I saw one of her friends in the building. I mentioned I was the person that brought the box of In & Out burgers she thanked me a lot of being so thoughtful.

of burgers makes you look to the neighbors like a friend visiting and not a customer.  Nothing suspicious about food.

Sometimes even for a change of pace the a variety of desserts from Urth Caffee in WLA.

For sure they regift as my home is proof of that! Lol

As for knowing the incalls.....you need to trust me on this...they know...haha

As for love,  even the ones with BFs and married do they love the guy? Or could it be just for the money he provides or the citizenship?  Who knows man.  And if your thing about you being their BF if your not allowed at their incall etc.  Thats not always true.  Ive dated few who wanted me to see them at the incall and pay and then see me outside and have bareback sex at my home free of charge.  They sort of felt I should be willing to pay thousands of dollars to see them since they are priceless...lol.  Said busiiness and personal is separate. Lol.  Some Not full rate but just the owners cut so owner didnt suspect we were dating.

As for the kgirls time for flowers...oh they have time.  Its not how you really describe...lol

As for the girls you and ive seen, if its been 8years its been way more we shared.  I dont review everygirl i see.  Haha.
 You probably banged my girl at the time. Lol.  I forgive you though. Haha

You're confused about what regifting is,  You should look it up.  

My first few years, I thought exactly like you.  I believed you could see them at the incall and pay for sex, take them out on dates, and even get some freebies, and that made you a real world boyfriend to a K-girl.  The first one that I had that was real made it plain for me:  If you are a customer, you are not a boyfriend.  What you are describing is an ATF customer who is generous and deserves some appreciation with off the clock time.  I still get that, too, but its not the way they think of a boyfriend.  I was lucky enough to experience the real deal a second time.  With the few regulars I have now, I am just their favorite customer because I'm seeing them at their work.  I'm taking one out this weekend, but that is their way of thanking us for our loyalty, consistency, and generosity.  Its not love and its not a boyfriend.  Its the same as you taking a client to a Laker game who's business you want to continue to get.  Don't confuse that with a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship when it comes to K-girls.  I hope you get to experience the real deal someday, because it is an eye-opener.  Trust ME on that.

I didn't want to attract attention, so I brought it in one piece at a time.  

A box of spark plugs to get things off to a good start.
A fuel pump to keep things going, the second time.
An air filter to deal with her smoking.
A gear shifter to move things up to the next level.
A rear view mirror with fuzzy dice - to remind her how lucky she was to find me.
She gave me great head so I gave her great headers.
And many more parts and pieces.

I never did bring the brakes 'cause I didn't want it to stop.
But she retired.

Did anybody out there get re-gifted a single scroll turbocharger?

(It's a Hyundai PassoCorto.)

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Buddy^^  

You keep thinking what you experienced and what you know of BF is the rule.  Iim trying to tell you its not. And other veterans on this board who are married to kgirls and have kids can attest.  

You have no idea who i have dated or gotten almost married too...lol

Your comments already tells me ive experienced more then you..lol

Im not trying to have a pissing contact with you.  Its what ive done and experienced.  With the amount of girls ive seen give me the benefit of the doubt..lol..

Anyway good luck to you and loosen up a little.  You sterotyped a working girl with your experienced so much you just cant seem to believe otherwise.

Haha...my first request was a burger too!  In nout..lol

Girls and the need for some meat in their mouth! Haha

We will agree to disagree.  To each his own.  

I've seen over 300 K-girls in eight years, and I still dedicate one hour of my hobby time to seeing one new one each week.  Maybe you've seen more.  I'm not questioning the volume of your experience, only the quality and diversity of experiences.  

Go in peace.

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Come on, I want to see who gives in first. You Kgirl experts crack me up.

different experience than Caucasian providers.  That's for sure.  Much more to learn about cultural differences with Kgirls.  I'll be the first to admit that I'm still learning new things about how Kgirl minds work, but always willing to shorten the learning curve for others by sharing what works and what doesn't.

she will accept an outside date, you will see a big difference in the makeup amount and style, and how they dress in their "civviie" persona/life.  Gives you a better idea on jewelry and other potential gifts to see them when they are not working . . . us.

That's funny as I had a similar experience. However in my case the candies were in some bowls on the kitchen counter -- Hershey's Kisses, at least that was what I got handed -- so I'm really hoping they were not a gift! In fact the girl mentioned buying them to give out to clients to be nice -- suspect she wasn't covering for someone ;-

very true -- he said without ever having been there yet!. Great punchline! LOL

So if I get over to LA some time and need to get through the tough screening I'm going to mention I have burgers to provide to all that need them

I'm glad you agree.  LOL

have a bowl of commercial wrapped candy by the door and will offer for you to take some on your way out.  Must be a lot of diabetic hobbyists.  Lol

If a customer brought a girl a bag of hershey kisses, he should be stoned.  Lol

Hey never said i was the expert! Just i know everything! Lol.

Having relationship with the girls you learn pretty much how everything works.  Had to pick up one exs roomate at the airport once...damn what a beauty..left as one of the superstars..so wanted to bang her! Haha.

Hmm...not sure if being white is that much of a disadvantge..some of the top gals BFs and husbands are white guys.  Former customer.  White guys seem to have better relationshio chances then others.  Go figure

Kgirls and Caucasian PROVIDERS.  Nothing to do with ethnicity of customers, except from my own Caucasian perspective of Kgirls.

Kgirls act totally different when they see nonkoreans..whether due to language barrier shyness etc.

Personally there isnt any difference other then skin color.  Attiturde and behavior is the same if you speak the lanuguage.  

I find it fun when i read how some of you nonkorean speaking guys act like the kgirls are some geisha type or naive girls etc.  

Wake up im the morning with them and they are the same grouchy girl as a white girl...lol

for reaffirming that its good to be a non-Korean when dating Korean girls.  Many overnights here, but never woke up to a grouchy girl.  Yes to no make-up and dissheveled hair sometimes, but never grouchy.  Lol

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There seems to be a significant spike in testosterone and hormones here. A good cold shower might be useful now? lo

a flag, you need to call a real foul.  Lol

You guys have a lot of money. I envy you. I can afford only 1-2 times a month.

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