I see a lot of guys catching feelings and wanting to "rescue" (myself included) a hot young K-girl. But have you checked the math on that "rescue" mission?
If she’s doing 10 bookings a day at $240 a pop plus tips, she’s making over $16k a week. Even working part-time, she’s pulling in $322k a year. To get her to quit, you’d need to replace that income. So, unless you’re clearing mid-six figures yourself, your "rescue" is actually just a 70% pay cut for her. Hard to be a hero when you can't even match her quarterly earnings!
I suppose it's time for the new kids to run though the thought now. Have not run through these two themes for a while.
Personally, I find the short-term arrangements work out so much better than trying to take one home. Also worth factoring in the difference between the show you get and the reality of the girl in day to day.
Half go to bookers. I think the big ones charge more which is why some girls leave them quickly.
Then rent, health checks, one week a month for period. I don't think they see 10 guys everyday either. So I'd say they probably clear a little over 100k a year
Half go to bookers. I think the big ones charge more which is why some girls leave them quickly.
Then rent, health checks, one week a month for period. I don't think they see 10 guys everyday either. So I'd say they probably clear a little over 100k a year
The top-tier girls definitely see 10+ people a day, especially when they’re just touring through LA from Korea (I couldnt even get last minute appointments). Not sure if they’re paying rent or if it’s covered, but they usually use pills to skip their periods so they don't lose any work days. Funny enough, I’m pretty sure we know some of the same ladies.
Posted By: netnoy
Re: Keep in mind expenses Half go to bookers. I think the big ones charge more which is why some girls leave them quickly.
Then rent, health checks, one week a month for period.
I don't think they see 10 guys everyday either. So I'd say they probably clear a little over 100k a year
sold by Indie providers who are having their customers taken away by the better service and lower prices offered by Kgirls. I have seen almost all of the top tier Kgirls that came through LA for a number of years and only know of a few instances where a few did more than a single day with 10 customers. One legendary Kgirl in OC did 9 or 10 customers three days in a row and became so dehydrated she spent the next three days in a hospital connected to an electrolyte drip. Most Kgirl girls who are available for a 10-12 hour shift consider 6 or 7 customers to be a fully booked day. Average if 5-6/day, so redo the math and you will get a better idea on the earnings.
As far as blocking their period, they use an implant that slowly released the medication over the 90 days. Most girls still take at least one day a week off even though they are blocking their periods.
Kgirls are having 10 sessions a day, especially in the current business climate. And IMO, any top tier girls that can get 10 sessions a day are on limited working days and hours. These LA Kgirls are taking a lot of time off and not cause Flo's in town!
A K-girl I’ve been speaking a lot to recently is very much into health and wellness like I am. She’s also a big proponent of age-delaying products and services. She said her average monthly spend on this is anywhere from $6k to $10k per month alone. She also budgets roughly $4k for shopping per month. Then add rent, utilities, food, etc. and you’re talking upwards of $20k per month to support her lifestyle without including the variable cost of going out, travel, possibly supporting family, etc. Some months could easily run $25k to $30k.
You dont think popular kgirls get run thru like 10 clients daily?
Posted By: badger48
Re: I don't think any Kgirls are having 10 sessions a day, especially in the current business climate. And IMO, any top tier girls that can get 10 sessions a day are on limited working days and hours. These LA Kgirls are taking a lot of time off and not cause Flo's in town!
I also don't think that the booker is taking half of the fee. About 8 or 9 years ago I started seeing a top KGirl near UCLA when I was regularly over there for business. We hit it off, and after our second session she gave me her personal cell number to keep in touch. I would text her thank you notes after our sessions, or notes that I was on her schedule the next day. After 5 or 6 sessions I asked her if she would prefer that I booked directly with her rather than the booker so she could save the fee. She said no, and explained that her booker charged her 100 for the first date because he had to do all of the screening, but much less for subsequent dates since no screening was involved. She said for her it was easier to let the booker do the scheduling since his fee was lower, and it would avoid scheduling mishaps. This was back in the days of 250-300 per hour dates, and no bbfs upcharge. So max she was paying 1/3 to the booker. I don't know how the higher rates and all of the add-ons affect the booker's fee. but my guess is that 1/3 is still about the max the booker receives.
As far as I know, kgirls do have bosses. I believe girls get 60%, rest split between bookers and bosses.
Posted By: RIFFRICHARDS
Re: I don't think any I also don't think that the booker is taking half of the fee. About 8 or 9 years ago I started seeing a top KGirl near UCLA when I was regularly over there for business. We hit it off, and after our second session she gave me her personal cell number to keep in touch. I would text her thank you notes after our sessions, or notes that I was on her schedule the next day. After 5 or 6 sessions I asked her if she would prefer that I booked directly with her rather than the booker so she could save the fee. She said no, and explained that her booker charged her 100 for the first date because he had to do all of the screening, but much less for subsequent dates since no screening was involved. She said for her it was easier to let the booker do the scheduling since his fee was lower, and it would avoid scheduling mishaps. This was back in the days of 250-300 per hour dates, and no bbfs upcharge. So max she was paying 1/3 to the booker. I don't know how the higher rates and all of the add-ons affect the booker's fee. but my guess is that 1/3 is still about the max the booker receives.
much for the 90-day Kgirls, the shift since Covid to girls renting their own incall space and using multiple bookers has resulted in her direct costs of scheduling falling in about the 10% range. Everything else is hers. The girls like this because they don't have to see as many customers in a day to make the same money as before when they were getting the incall provided by a third-party apartment lessee, which in a few cases was also the booker.
The reason she wants everyone to go through a booker is so that the other bookers can see what has already been booked so there is no overlap with two guys showing up at the same time. She merely sends a group text to her two to four bookers saying she is ready to take bookings for that day, and the group text thread lets all of them know what times are taken and what times are still available. (If she allows prebooking, the first booker to get a prebook will start the group thread a day or two before.) If she is getting tired late in the afternoon, she will just add to the thread, "I'm tired, no more today, please. Kgirls with their own incalls have reduced their work hours using multiple bookers. I know several that used to go until 10:00p, not now make their last 1-hour session start at 7:00.
lots of things to learn from you. especially how you make friends with the kgirls.
I think the touring ones may operate differently than the ones who lives here.
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Although things haven't changed much . . . . much for the 90-day Kgirls, the shift since Covid to girls renting their own incall space and using multiple bookers has resulted in her direct costs of scheduling falling in about the 10% range. Everything else is hers. The girls like this because they don't have to see as many customers in a day to make the same money as before when they were getting the incall provided by a third-party apartment lessee, which in a few cases was also the booker.
The reason she wants everyone to go through a booker is so that the other bookers can see what has already been booked so there is no overlap with two guys showing up at the same time. She merely sends a group text to her two to four bookers saying she is ready to take bookings for that day, and the group text thread lets all of them know what times are taken and what times are still available. (If she allows prebooking, the first booker to get a prebook will start the group thread a day or two before.) If she is getting tired late in the afternoon, she will just add to the thread, "I'm tired, no more today, please. Kgirls with their own incalls have reduced their work hours using multiple bookers. I know several that used to go until 10:00p, not now make their last 1-hour session start at 7:00.
But Kgirls do spend a lot on maintaining their looks. Haircuts on their day off along with a spa day where they get facials and massages. I would put the average for the girls I have known at about $800-900 a week. Some cook for themselves (example: Glow in OC), others order take-out (example: most girls in LA. Lol)
For girls who have their own incall, the rent is part of the business overhead. Most rents of the kinds of apartments Kgirls use for incall run from about $2500 to $3500, which is covered by her adjusted gross revenues (after booking fees) are earned the first 3 days of the month. After that, the only expenses are the disposables (small water bottles, condoms, laundry detergent, food, lube, disposable toothbrushes, etc.) which are less than $100 per working day.
I don't think he is. I had a Korean SB for a while. She complained that the $600 a week she was getting from me barely covered her beauty expenses. Skin care, nails, botox, makeup, facials, etc. Koreans spend more on their looks and plastic surgery than any other country in the world, per capita.
I want to learn how to get a korean side chick for only 600 a week. That will save me some serious cash lol.
Posted By: netnoy
Re: I think she may be exaggerating a little, . . . . I don't think he is. I had a Korean SB for a while. She complained that the $600 a week she was getting from me barely covered her beauty expenses. Skin care, nails, botox, makeup, facials, etc. Koreans spend more on their looks and plastic surgery than any other country in the world, per capita.
Others have mentioned the “house” fee but girls have told me that they also pay for their travels (foreign and domestic), visas and paperwork. That’s quite a bit of overhead…at $350 an hour. Some do well, most not so much…. There’s a lot of options in Vegas…and OC and LA and Tysons etc.
I don't think the visas were ever a meaningful expense for the majority, most just come under the waiver program. And student visa were not (no clue about costs now but easy to look up for those interested) every expensive.
While costs are an important consideration I suspect a number of other factors dominate their decision -- not like we've really seen any fluctuations in numbers of girls here as the exchange rate trend shifted.
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