Has been brought up so many times in the past.
The kgirl scene is like no other from my opinion. Clean apts/condos, affordable donations for the services she offers, girls are into cleanliness, and majority are here for as long as there Visa allows them. Now, I'm not saying all indies and other girls don't have clean apt, and affordable donations and services are not full gfe. The Chinese speaks for themselves (Dirty)!I have seen girls from the 160-1500hr range. But, I have also seen many girls in the 400-500 range that are not full gfe and claim to be or upsell. Use high end hotels but service is so-so.
How many days a week does the average k-girl work? Every girl is different and some only see 3-4 clients a day.
How much free time a day do you think a k-girl has for OTC? Sundays and consecutive days off.
Finally how much per session does a k-girl get to keep? That is different for each house and should not be divulged in a open forum! I see a girl in NYC that goes by Korea** she charges 500hr. She doesn't advertise alot and services is awesome and has a long list of clients. I also hobby in Seoul and the 250-300 girls there is non-existent! Its a totally different scene over there. Now, is it fair to ask you how many you see in a day OP? "Often the debate here is about relationships and about money. Lots of information and experiences are shown, but often the foundation for that is money and relationships. I would like to know what YOU THINK is the real truth. " Your answer to above question. It's all about Money! Is that for you too OP? If you we're not in this lifestyle would you be working a regular 8-5 or 9-6 job making way less. So, why are you into providing? Cause the fast and east cash?
Now, First this is not meant at the OP who started this thread . But, many girls who wrote similar question like this one are jealousy about the popularity of korean girls scene. Threads created like this one have been brought up in Seattle, SF,NYC,DC, LAs Vegas and LA.:And , this is my opinion and 2cents. I know people will not agree.
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Good Morning All,
I read often this board and honestly sometimes its really eye opening. I see opinions from one side of argument all the way to other side. Usually both sides present well and its informative. But I have a question to help me try to understand each side of the debate.
Often the debate here is about relationships and about money. Lots of information and experiences are shown, but often the foundation for that is money and relationships. I would like to know what YOU THINK is the real truth.
How many clients in a day does the average k-girl see. Not how many can see, but really how many she does see. Do you believe that the demand is so hight that she is seeing 10 a day on average, or more, or less. Do you be on the side that thinks supply is high so demand low? Or are you on side that supply is priced at point that demand will be higher than supply. I know this will be different base on where you live so please make sure mention what city you talk about.
How many days a week does the average k-girl work?
How much free time a day do you think a k-girl has for OTC?
Finally how much per session does a k-girl get to keep?
Thank you for consider my question?
Christine
First off there is a difference between "local" girls and "rotating" girls who don't work in their home cities, but spend a few days or weeks in a variety of cities and only go home (usually NY or CA) for vacation. These girls tend to work more days and longer hours and try to see as many clients as they possibly can when working. Some of these girls work 12-14 hour days and often work 7 days a week, leaving almost no time for OTC time with clients. I dated one of these girls who lived in Atlanta several years ago and she did quite well financially, on a typical 3 week "tour of duty" she would never come home with less than $20,000 net, and sometimes over $30,000. I am sure you can do the math on how many clients a day she was seeing. She'd be pissed on a "slow" day of six clients, and I am sure there were many days where she'd be seeing 10 a day
My last serious GF was a Thai Girl in Dallas and she rarely "toured", She would work 5 or 6 days a week and probably saw on average 5-7 clients a day. This girl lived in her incall with a roommate and had as much free time as any other woman with a job. I spent the night with her about 5 nights a week. We'd usually get together in the early evening, hang out with her roommate and some of the other girls (and sometime their BF's) and usually all have a meal together that either my GF or one of the other girls who was a really good cook would make each night. It was like one big happy family and I have nothing but pleasant memories of those times.
I have also been in an LTR with a Korean AMP girl in Atlanta. She also worked seven days a week for weeks at a time and then would take a vacation of at least a week. She had an apartment about twenty minutes away from the spa, but she only stayed there once a week when working because of her long hours, she worked 7AM til 10 PM six days a week, but got to "sleep in" on Sunday til 10 AM. On weeks that she worked we would usually only see each other Saturday night. She would "try" to get off as early as possible, usually about 9 PM which gave us 12 hours before she had to be back to work. I honestly don't remember how much she made, but it was more than enough to live very comfortably and to send a LOT of money back to Korea. My relationship with her ended mainly because she was too tired from work for us to have much of a sex life, but we stayed in touch for years after we broke up until she ultimately went back to Korea.
Gag,
Thank you. So I do a little math and make a silly assumption I think.
If girl works 7 days a week thats 21 days in your example of 3 weeks. So 21 days.
If girl takes home 30,000.00 in three weeks then thats same as 30,000.00 in 21 days. Same as 1,428.57 I think right math.
If she booking most expensive appointment at just 1 hour, not count any tips. I have no real idea what usual charge is but I see many complain if they will pay more than 275. But let us pretend the one hour is 300.00. I think too high but its easy number. I see many say on board girl gets 1/2. Some say a little more but 1/2 is easy number again.
So to get to the 1,428.57 i do the following math. 30,000.00 total take for 21 days. Total in her pocket for each day to make the the 30,000.00 is need be 1,428.57. If split half total for each day must double to 2,857.14. If most expensive appointment is 300.00 then daily she must have 9.5 appointments. Wow!!
First I am amaze anyone can fuck 9.5 guys a day. Second even if someone can fuck that much I am still amaze. I must be a lazy hooker compare to my Asian cousins. Finally 9.5 hours fucking does not count time to shower, wash privates, eat, pee, poop, get presentable. So more like 14 hour day easy. Again I am just too lazy.
I know this is silly way to look at the issue. But cant help but look at it this way. Almost all people posting they only do one hour visit. I know some do more, but most posting only one. So then I think of ok two hour appointment. Since I bump up the rate to 300 hour single appointment, I will bump up a two hour appointment with discount to 500.00. Even at 500.00 appointment still average is high. 30,000.00 in 21 days is still 1,428.57. But now if split is equal girl is getting 250.00 per appointment. That is still 5.7 appointments a day. Wow again!
Even at that example I am too lazy for this business I think.
Just a thought, and thank you so much. Sometime its nice to have a thing to think about over coffee.
Christine
Now in the case of my Korean GF who toured, she was very hard working and VERY mercenary (which is why I dumped her) and she was quite the "tip hustler" I would guess her average "take home" per one hour date was more like $200 than $150, but as you said, it's still working some very long days. She didn't work at this pace for very long, only for a few months and then she started working at a legal brothel in N Nevada. she did quite well there also, and saved enough money to open her own AMP, and the last I heard was doing quite well for herself
My GF who worked at the AMP actually did burn herself out, I know she had genuine feelings for me, our typical Saturday night days rarely cost me more than $30 worth of take out Korean food. I took her to a casino a couple of times, the first time I gave her a couple of grand to gamble with and when we left (we both won) she gave me back every penny. The problem was she was just tired of sex and no longer enjoyed it, even towards the end of a two week vacation she still really had no desire to have sex and I could tell she only was having sex with me for my benefit and that she really wasn't into it.
My Thai GF I mentioned was the exact opposite, she ALWAYS had plenty of "gas left in the tank" for me, and I can't remember a single time she turned me down for sex because she was "too tired" even though I told her very early on that I would understand if she was too tired some days. I guess everyone has a different level of sex drive, I have been with Civvie GF's who thought having sex twice a week was "too much" and I have had others where we fucked two or three times a day for months on end. Go figure, right?
Similar in California, Korean girls in socal typically work 10 am - 10 pm. Some girls will start seeing clients at 11 or 12:30, most will take last appt. at 9 or 10 pm. Usually 6 days a week and most will work 3 weeks and a week for aunt flow. Anything less than 6 is considered a slow day.
It is an incredible amount of sex that a human being can handle and sex is usually the last thing in their mind when they are not working. Factor in some 1/2 hour appointments, a popular girl can see as many as 10 guys a day.
Doesnt seem to matter what US city just depends since You got different owners from different ho experiences so have different biz models and so different level of incalls, quality of girls, and pricing.
So US owners from hi end incalls in korea employ 90 day visa chicks already working as hos in korea at the hi end incalls and anmas, so hotter on avg, nice incalls, and charge 250-300, 4-8 is avg. Usually takes sunday off but some take afternoon off or take night off middle if the week. Upto the girl as these girls are like indys. Girls take like 2/3
Then you got the owners from red light districts and amps so they get the kfatties from korea and fobs living in Us and no offense the less refined who are used to cleaning themsleves with wet naps and banging guys every 15 min. Those charge like 70bucks and bang 10 on avg since lube their pussys with nonstop lubricants. And have less control on how many they want to see more like employees so bang as many as their shift brings in. Girls take 30bucks according to this one amp chick i banged that i asked. And after desanitizing and puking i never went back since amps are gross.
Has been brought up so many times in the past.
The kgirl scene is like no other from my opinion. Clean apts/condos, affordable donations for the services she offers, girls are into cleanliness, and majority are here for as long as there Visa allows them.
Now, I'm not saying all indies and other girls don't have clean apt, and affordable donations and services are not full gfe. The Chinese speaks for themselves (Dirty)!
I have seen girls from the 160-1500hr range.
But, I have also seen many girls in the 400-500 range that are not full gfe and claim to be or upsell. Use high end hotels but service is so-so.
How many days a week does the average k-girl work? Every girl is different and some only see 3-4 clients a day.
How much free time a day do you think a k-girl has for OTC? Sundays and consecutive days off.
Finally how much per session does a k-girl get to keep? That is different for each house and should not be divulged in a open forum!
I see a girl in NYC that goes by Korea** she charges 500hr. She doesn't advertise alot and services is awesome and has a long list of clients.
I also hobby in Seoul and the 250-300 girls there is non-existent! Its a totally different scene over there.
Now, is it fair to ask you how many you see in a day OP?
"Often the debate here is about relationships and about money. Lots of information and experiences are shown, but often the foundation for that is money and relationships. I would like to know what YOU THINK is the real truth. "
Your answer to above question. It's all about Money! Is that for you too OP?
If you we're not in this lifestyle would you be working a regular 8-5 or 9-6 job making way less.
So, why are you into providing? Cause the fast and east cash?
Now, First this is not meant at the OP who started this thread . But, many girls who wrote similar question like this one are jealousy about the popularity of korean girls scene. Threads created like this one have been brought up in Seattle, SF,NYC,DC, LAs Vegas and LA.:And , this is my opinion and 2cents.
I know people will not agree.
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SS,
Thank you for reply.
I am not upset in least about your opinion. That is what makes the boards a useful tool. Many here have opinions based on experience and I have no experience working a k-girl business.
First I answer your questions as only fair.
You ask why do I provide. And then you ask is the answer money? While I dont need to answer the obvious, of course in my instance you are correct. I would not post Ads, make website, buy advertise and invest time to meet men for free. I can accomplish meet men simply go to market and look lost.
You ask me how many clients I see in a day. Thank you for asking. This make bonus of a real question turn into a threAD. Generally I see one in a day. Just one. I dont need see more, my needs get taken care of with the one. I have when pressured and if time between is more enough see two. I have never seen two clients in a day, followed by two clients next day.
I have said in past I am not k-girl. But subject really does make me think once in a while. I ask the question not because I am jealous but because I try to link what I do know and what I do read. Sometimes what I do read and what I do know, along with what I do think do not always agree.
If I offend by asking the question then of course my apology. However my opinion is not same as many here. So I am try to understand other side. Not need argue basis for my opinion. My opinion is that for large majority of k-girl, business is not what many here think and say. But I have been wrong in past and will be wrong in future.
Christine
OTOH, I have seen a LOT of women who charge $500 hr or more constantly whining that they are late on their rent or with other financial difficulties.
As for "volume" every one has a different level of sex drive. I know some girls who are just getting "warmed up" after their third or fourth client of the day, and other women who can barely see two guys a week. Guys are the same, I remember a guy coming on here not long ago wanting to go on a "fuck fest" but his definition was something like four girls in 6 days, which is hardly a "fuck fest" to someone like me who even at my "advanced age" still doesn't consider anything less than four girls a day a "fuck fest" lol
I really only have a couple experiences in the K world, but I do have trouble imagining how they could keep up that level of physical performance for 10 guys a day. A 10K race only takes about an hour. Imagine these girls in motion for at least 30 minutes out of an hour, let's say just six guys. That's three hours of motion. I bet they have big appetites if nothing else.
I haven't done it in quite sometime, but I have seen six different women in a single day well after I turned fifty. Unless you are in horrible physical shape three hours of actual fucking over the entire day is not really that big a physical challenge. It of course is a challenge to your libido and "keeping it up" is much harder than the physical exertion of fucking.
BTW if you ever do try to fuck six women in a day, just remember that last one is going to take a LOT longer than thirty minutes of motion unless you are a kid of about 18. lol
I haven't had sex more than once in a day and I doubt I'd enjoy it that much after a few hours. I'm also not multi-orgasmic, which I understand is supposedly a learnable skill. But actually my mind wanders after doing the same thing too long and I want to go do something else.
The K-girls I've seen were like Energizer Bunnys. I wouldn't doubt the could run a 10K or a triathlon. Sometimes watching females participate in triathlons makes me embarrassed as a man ... but I get over it.
I suppose you could tilt the odds by "staying well hydrated, well rested, etc etc etc" but what fun would that be?
Most of the time I need an hour or more of recovery time before going again, but every once in a while I am with a girl who just gets my motor running and I can go multiple times in a relatively short period of time, but those instances are rare and are almost always sans condom, and for obvious reasons not something I can do in P4P.
I will agree that many/most K-girls really are Energizer Bunnies. I have a VERY healthy appetite, but I have to concede that hours and hours of sex does indeed stop being enjoyable at some point, and the ability of these girls to have "that much" sex and still make it look fresh is beyond me.
BTW running a 10K is easy, I am not in the greatest of shape and I am starting to "nudge" 60 and I can run a 10K. I can't run one real fast, but I can run one. lol A triathlon or a marathon is a completely different matter, I have ZERO desire to even try to push myself that far.
Here is my guesstimate of the k-girl math after gleaming tidbits of information during several years of hobbying. Most girls advertise hours from 11 am to ten pm, which breaks into at most 9 segments of 1:15, the standard time segment. Unless the girl is a superstar, or super-human, 6-8 sessions are maximum possible in a day. Assuming the standard fee of $250 and the provider receiving 60%, she gets $150 plus tip. This means the girl takes home $800-$1200 daily plus tips. Assuming average tip of $25, the girl makes an extra $150-200 in tips. This brings daily total to $950-$1350. Assume a full week of 6 days and total becomes $5700-$8100 per week. Girls work 3 weeks plus a few days a month so say they take 3.5 weeks per month, they could be pulling $20k-$28k per month. I think many of the better girls only keep up that pace for a short period before slowing down. They may charge a little more and get larger tips. They may also enjoy more OTC. I know some who only work five days and limit work to six hours. Many who are marginal book far fewer appts per day. I think the range in income could be huge between the greats and average performers!