Submitted for your consideration and approval...
Yesterday, CDL got into another on-line brawl with Papa babo. CDL poo pooed a Vegas org, 100ProofLV, which made me look. There were white girls and a black girl and even a porn star girl; all at $500 / hour donation rate. A few of their glams made me think they were very fuckable.Now, for that same $500, I can session with two eye candy kgirls in an afternoon and have $60 in change to bring drinks and snacks.
Fuck we got it good in the Bay my monger brothers!
And, maybe just maybe, one of the kgirls will have a pooch to take for a walk in the park after the session.... YMMV
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Submitted for your consideration and approval...
Cue The Alan Parson's project 'Games People Play'...
I love fiery spirited Asian babes; all ethnicities. I love playing games. I love hour sessions. I love chasing windmills...
I've been sessioning so long that a regular session just doesn't excite me anymore. So I jumped on board the train to Wonderland.
The more YMMV the better I've said. Then I ran into vampire kgirl and she turned my addiction upside down.
Cue The Who's 'Behind Blue Eyes'...
It's easier said than done exhibiting temperance when I've got super duper easy access to Wonderland and a pocket full of $naps.
You may ask me who's Temperance?! Can I get her contact info?!??
What's a monger to do?
YMMV
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If you’re saying YMMV girls are the best, I completely agree. Give me a strong willed YMMV girl with a temper every time.
When you find the way to her heart that strong willed, hot tempered YMMV girl will give you the most intimate, wonderful session ever. And she’ll never be boring.
Worth to note that "YMMV" is also a term many choose to hide behind when describing a session that didnt go well.
"Oh well, she must be ymmv because after reading all the rave reviews her service and attitude was not that at all " -> heard this too many times.
C'mon Rocketbro! That's cup half full thinking. We've all met sour lemon GPS working girls; eh? When handed a bag of sour lemons, I say rise up to the challenge and make sweet and oh so delicious lemonade!
Or you can give up and say she's YMMV and I don't get what all the hype is about...
YMMV girls are the BEST!!!
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Rocket has a habit of focusing on what he's "missing", not what he's getting. You are also right about the importance of personality and the social game . . . . . the monger's, not the girl's. I have said before that you get out of the session what you bring to it, and unfortunately, the generation coming up that spent their youth courting girls though texting will never understand the importance of having "game" and what a difference it makes in maximizing GFE with a Kgirl.
Yeah yeah yeah, as usual blame the monger(s) and not the girl for what we're getting, heard this a million times before. I'm sure if a restaurant serves you half-assed food, you'll focus on piece of bread and some butter that was indeed ok. And the glass of wine that is not actually made in the restaurant.
The point of my post, was that the term 'YMMV' is often just synctatic sugar/euphemism for 'I got a shitty session, contrary to reviews, not sure if you also will get it'.
LOL at importance of having game when you paid for a fuck. Hilarious to what lengths white knights will go to justify subpar experiences.
C'mon Rocketbro
You can't equate a session with a living, breathing fiery spirited woman with a meal at a restaurant. Nah Dude.
Sure, there are some GPS, sour lemon ladies where however much you try to charm and amuse them, the outcome is shitty.
Christin of KP fame didn't much care for me no matter how much I tried. And the famous AAMP Ruby was on her phone 45 minutes of the hour session despite me asking her repeatedly to get off the fucking phone! And then there was Elin at HD, my beloved Jesi's BFF. First half hour was magnificent but the second half sucked so bad my comment on my review was 'not a snowballs chance in Hell that I'll repeat'. Let's just say I didn't repeat with those three...
And I went and got another session with a winner later that same day; those sessions were so bad!! Yet, those three kgirls were many a monger's ATF.
YMMV
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Not about what *we’re* getting.
My ATF was a Bay Area Legend. But she was known for being YMMV.
More than a few guys who saw her walked away saying that, other than her BBBJ, they didn’t see why she got so many great reviews. But for those with whom she was a good personality fit she was one of the very best.
I’ve had a great time with other girls who were known as YMMV.
There was a girl here from New York a number of years ago. I think her name was Skylar. Lots of average reviews. Complaints about her lack of willingness to kiss very much or at all. Yet when I saw her we had a great time. Sure, when I went in for that very first kiss she pulled back and then said “just once”. Then she did a complete 180 and really got into it.
But she asked me to not mention kissing in my review. Complying with that sort of request goes against the beliefs of some. And they are free to believe whatever they wish, of course. But that’s not the way I play the game.
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Admitting you're about "you" and not "us" is a fairly good first step. I may not agree with the concept, but I respect it a heck lot more than those who pretend they care about "us" l, but in reality it's about "them".
It’s the most important step in this pursuit.
Too many times I’ve had to protect myself, and those with whom I have personal relationships, from the actions or consequences of actions of other mongers.
Reviews are great. But it is critical to always remember that this is not a team sport. When the rubber hits the .. we are each the only one who can keep ourselves and those we care about safe.
That said, whenever I can safely do so, I will always try to help out others.
If all her previous reviews state CFS and you get BBFS, if she is known as a CBJ girl and you get BBBJ, or in your case if she doesn't kiss clients but she kisses you, you are doing both yourself and her a disfavor by mentioning it in a review.
Some girls really are YMMV, and having every guy who reads your review "expecting" one service and getting another isn't doing ANYONE any good, The guys are disappointed, the girl is pissed because guys are expecting services she doesn't provide and YOU are unlikely to get that special service ever again.
What you did was not selfish, you simply did both the smart and the courteous thing for all parties concerned.
board history has shown from my past posts on this subject, I think there is a special place in hell for guys who "out" YMMV girls. There is a reason they are not advertising like the other PSE girls. Its because its NOT on the regular menu for all customers. You're getting a special favor and she expects you to keep it private. I'm always amazed reading some of the bareback discussion boards on other sites where some guy outs a girl that he got BBFS from, a few others say they were tapping her, too, and then the next three guys say she is covered full service only and its not on her menu anymore. DUH!!!! It NEVER WAS on her menu. She was doing something special for a select group of regulars and one of them betrayed her trust, so now NO ONE gets BB. She cuts off everyone because one asshole couldn't keep his mouth shut and his ego demanded that he brag about doing her bare. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!!!
I have dated literally dozens of TER reviewed providers and I have had hundreds of guys asking me who they are, Can you even imagine the abuse these girls would be getting if any of them were to be revealed as GaGambler's girlfriend? (Or CDL's for that matter) I will NEVER reveal to anyone but my closest friends the names of any of the providers I have dated over the years. Some things are NEVER meant to be shared.
I agree completely.
I have been burned pretty badly by even revealing my current favorite.
Some assholes seem to love using the trick of reading forum comments and reviews and then using that info to claim to one of your faves that they are personal friends of yours. Then they say you told them she puts out bare or anal services and pressure her for the same.
Imagine how that’s going to turn out with my favorite hot tempered, strong willed girl. Especially if she’s one who not only doesn’t offer bare, but won’t even let a finger up her little starfish. Especially, as happened once, after knowing a girl for a while she said that she felt like you deserved a shot at her ass but just once and that you mustn’t mention it to anyone. And I always honor the girl’s request when she asks me not to tell.
her a "few" (Lol) times on the board, I have received PM's asking who my outside Kgirlfriend is. Even if I broke up with her, I would not contribute to a disruption of her future business by revealing her name, like you say, to anyone but my closest and most-trusted friends. There are some lines you just don't cross, regardless of the circumstances.
YOU would be receiving if you suddenly got so stupid. lol
I agree with these as well. Some things are not meant to be shared, absolutely.
Have no issues with this whatsoever.
This is why I feel like YMMV is too broad of a term.
I absolutely agree with you that service that is not advertised and given only after some repeats based on your chemistry etc, especially the one that is never offered, ie Greek, should never be mentioned in a review. Completely agree, and I'd even be hesitant via pms. Like I'd give clues but I won't say it outright. So this kind of ymmv that protects the girls, I'm fully FOR with you all.
If a girl asks you to do something, that's arguable. I've never had a girl ask me to do or don't do anything in a review. Ever. And I've seen lots of girls. So I'll assume it almost never comes up unless the PO knows you review or something like that.
in a PM to a guy you trust is that its going to work its way through the community of "trusted hobby bro's" one person at a time until it reaches a guy who trusts everybody, and he gives it to someone that shouldn't be trusted. Then it gets made public. I'm much more circumspect than I was in the beginning about giving out info in PM's.
Back in the day before PSE/BBFS advertising. I enjoyed my share of BB with YMMV girls, and I only had one girl tell me it was okay to mention I got BBFS in a review. I still couldn't bring myself to do it, and as a result of her telling me, I quit seeing her. Every other girl would specifically make a point that what we did was between us, and if I told anybody, she would not do it anymore. I took this to mean I should not put it in a review, so the fact that she didn't specifically mention review didn't matter. "Don't tell anyone" means exactly that. This was the code that most mongers lived by for a lot of years, and its a good one. If a girl who is not advertising PSE trusts you, keep it to yourself, or you are violating her trust.
I'd say BB and Greek +any other fetishes are in the same boat. But for things that are expected as baseline services such as dfk, cim and so on, it's fair game to point them out.
Also if a girl who's not advertised as PSE but gives it up BB on the first meeting, I feel like it warrants a mention.
Also, I thought you weren't into BB? Or youre just not into girls who do BB? Because if you think they only did BB with you, I have bad news for you... Lol.
My point is no amount of game is going to change lack of skill... or make a frog look a princess.
There ARE girls who are ymmv....I just think the term is used too often, ie overused in situations to make some sessions sound as atypical,when they are, on the contrary, very typical and reviews are just fake garbage.
analogy because for him, its just comparing one piece of meat to another. Objectification's finest moment. This is why so many young reviewers only tell us what the girl DID, and nothing about the social aspect. Is she fun and playful? Was her English good enough for her to engage in witty banter and trading flirts? The social skills are what sells the GFE and makes for a good session. If the monger doesn't have any of his own, the girl is not likely to respond in kind.
Sometimes, a girl is in a bad mood when you arrive because she didn't like the LAST customer before you. Its up to US to help them get back in the zone, so we don't get the same shitty session the last guy had. Too many mongers forget these girls are human, with human emotions and frailties. You can either accept that you were in the wrong place and wrong time when you walk in on a grumpy girl, and go ahead an soldier through a bad session, or you can be pro-active, and as you say, take the lemons, add a little "sugar" yourself and make lemonade. Who doesn't like sweet lemonade, especially homemade?
but remember his strike out rate is one in three.
My strike out rate is one in a hundred.
I don't recall him every discussing bringing his A-game nor rising to the challenge of changing up a sour lemon RA to sweet lemonade RA.
I recall him discussing back at Neurotic Donkey that he's bored with civvies cuz they don't know how to fuck. He doesn't session to connect. He takes the Charlie Sheen approach to mongering which is I don't pay them to have sex with me, I pay them to go away when I'm done! Not my game. Not my style.
Care to elaborate Rocketbro?
YMMV
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Elaborate on what ?
If I wanted to spend time and money using game, Id be in bars picking up civvies (well, cant do it nowadays in covid world, but you get the point). I have a pool of knowing which ones Id want to see... and not rolling dice on looks either.
The reason I'm paying someone for a session means I want to skip the fucking games (imagine this, there is even a site named after the concept, by golly !) and get some right away, instant gratification style.
If I have to work for it even after paying, what the hell is the point ?
Connect as in outside of our sessions ? Never had an interest in it. Most of these girls look older than I am, cant speak English on the level I'd want to - which means intellectual conversations and communication altogether is shot - and aren't exactly likely to be loyal (just my guess here).
Plus, lets face it, twoon - your vampire girl stories aren't exactly screaming in favor of such connections either. To me, that type of connection doesnt appear healthy. I used to have a few booty calls on deck, which were far less complicated. Then, of course, none of them fucked me even close to how my atf kgirls do. That's the problem. Lol.
Alright Rocketbro, you took the time to respond to my post and I'll take the time to respond to your rebuttal.
The point of 'working' a kgirl is to make her comfortable with me and build a friendship. You may say it's an illusion or magic trick...
Sure, I made a poor choice with vampire kgirl but she's a cautionary Tale; a cautionary share if you will indulge me.
You don't hear about my WINNERS and off menu items other than my special requests and honeymoon script.
Maybe, just maybe, you can help your kgirl learn 'merican. Or you can get a Rosetta Stone module and learn Korean. I find many kgirls are highly intelligent biZ women.
The Korean culture values loyalty. You may be surprised if your fave wants to be friends outside the session and what she'll do for ya in session. Just sayin'.
YMMV
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What say you mr.fisher?
I am with Rocketbro on this one. I think YMMV is just an excuse some people use.
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It's very consistent with me. I come to make that one hour the best hour I can for the both of us. I have no interest in what happen after that one hour. I like to see new girls and I repeat when they were fantastic.
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YMMV is my excuse when others complain they didn't get the same performance.
But why? Why would I spend my time and money try to make something work when it isn't working? I already spent money, and I don't believe in sunk costs or gamblers fallacy.
If I want to artificially try to make a friend, there are less expensive and time consuming ways to make a friend. Just like I said - it's easier to try and "make a friend" at the bar, who speaks the language you speak, and does not require a donation and a third party green light to see her.
I honestly don't get it. When I go to my cmt, Im not there to make friends and if her massage sucks, I'll just use a different cmt. And grade her accordingly. Doesn't mean Im objectifying her or any other nonsense cdl likes to say. All there is to it is that I'm looking for cmt massage. If she's attractive, I can maybe try to get a date with her, but it'd be pretty awkward and I could potentially lose a cmt provider. So I try to keep my services and relationships separated.
I'm a simple guy. I pay for service X and expect good service. The end.
I don't objectify anyone. I pay for service provided by human beings and I treat the human beings who provide it as human beings - always kindly and with a smile. But I do evaluate service based on the job they do. A good guy or a girl is not a profession, sorry.
"wrong place and wrong time" is no excuse for getting bad service;as usual, you rush to protect the kgirl side. How surprising. NOT.
If it's wrong place and wrong time, don't work. Cancel the appointment, even if it's last minute. Don't be Brett Favre on the Jets. No one benefits from sick girls (cold etc) trying to work through sessions.
There are dozens of jobs where people evaluate service not caring about whether a person had a bad day or not. A grumpy restaurant server is not getting tipped, and likely a yelp review will be lower because people usually include service as part of the food experience.
And like I've said, no amount of social interaction will make a girl magically gain skills she doesn't have.
Also, I never really liked the lemon metaphor, because I love lemons and lemon juice and can and do eat them raw no issues
I don't really like lemonade because too much sugar ruining the lemon taste.
Eeeerrrrr.....
I meant to say cup half empty not cup half full.
D'oh
YMMV
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you will soon realize that the glass is always full.
The glass is always full mostly to people who have bad vision or want it to be full badly.
And when they get closer, they realize it's not or the times it's full, it's full of shit. Or they just refuse to admit it's shit and treat like it's God's gift instead.
Don't know the details though, not one of these people.
I'll stick to Joe South's version.
Why thank you mrfisher for the share! I've never heard of Joe South or his rendition of 'Games People Play'. I enjoyed it. ' God grant me the serenity to remember who I am'. Poetry and depth is what I strive for and that song, my monger brother, is both poetic and deep.
👍
YMMV
"Walk a Mile in My Shoes"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUe_1vWeyzQ
Elvis liked those two songs so much that he covered them. Joe South also wrote a song that was a big hit for Lynn Anderson: "(I Never Promised You A) Rose Garden"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHHCZTvQco
Great addition to the thread Papa babo! Keep it up and I'll not have anything cross to say.
😉
A kgirl outcall in vegas is 400 baseline (in many places some upsells would be extra). So its not like 500 price is that outrageous. Vegas is not a good town for value, that's for sure.
Buy the whole day in Vegas, 13 hours, and you get a discount ... have done that 2x so far. Priceless.
Hey man,
Welcome to TER!
For those who don't know Maui, he was a very active participant on NotAMPmaps and FUCKING George's site. Ha ha. How do I really feel about George? He is a no good mother fucker. And his website is useless for mongers who prefer kgirls. Lost over 100 quality kgirl reviews and got banned when he rolled out what I believe to be a nefarious policy of the girls getting 'verified'; time will tell. Hey George, if you're on TER --) FUCK YOU!!!
Rant over. Nice to be here at TER!!!
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Yeah, let's all welcome luvaznla or luvazn or maudiver or whatever the fuck he calls himself nowadays.
If cdl thought mufftime was a shill, he'll love maui! An amazing advertiser and pr man, a man of thousands aliases and of broken promises. Will fit right in here with the whole "never throw a girl under the bus". A fine super VIP monger if I ever saw one.
Perhaps maui would like to tell us what happened to his newer account and his (was it 5th?) review of Nana, both of which were actually removed from TER.
It warms my hear to know you love me so much to follow me around.
And you are correct, I'll never throw a girl under the bus in a public or semi-public forum. Any girl who does with me what these girls do is ok in my book.
I think you should stay in your lane and I will stay in my lane.
Remember how on E.M. I told you orgs should stay in their lane when advertising and you laughed about it?
Guess who got the last laugh when you along with org profiles, got kicked out and personally called out by the admin there?
This forum is not for advertising, bud. Just sayin'.
Anyway, what happened to your new reviews? Did TER staff delete your other account because you happened to use the same ip address as this account? Tsk tsk.
Again, you're spending your time focusing on me and not the girls. Why is that? I'm not interested in being pen pals with you. We've tried that and it always ends up in your toilet and I have to flush you away.
You hear that flushing toilet sound? That's me sending you back where you belong yet again.
but welcome to TER Kgirl central. It seems from this post you and I might have some things in common. Lol
(Hey Rocket, just tweaking you a little for fun. Lol)
It's funny since your first TER post is a reply to me, and on another forum you sent me unsolicited pms and asked for a way to do illegal things that dont relate to hobbying...
Us being "pen pals" fell apart when you broke your own promise you made to me about not divulging a secret. Not only you divulged it, you (I'm sure twoon would be amused) ran and snitched about it to George, under an alias. Imagine betraying your fellow monger over an advertisement.
I was just introducing you to the board, so people know which lengths you will go to do advertising, including lying, betraying and other things. But I'd imagine you'll find several people on your side, because they prefer lies over truth. Me though, my conscience is completely clear - all I care about is the truth, every line every word, every noun, every verb.
What you're right about is about discussing less you and more kgirls. The great thing about TER forum is that you can't delete posts asking questions about the girls service or that say things that are less than glowing about the girls, that you advertise. Everyone's got a voice. And you can't advertise on here either. Much better for mongers than the previous place.
So, let's discuss the girls instead. Nara at BunnyGirls is a rebrand of Nana at VnF. Why is she using a different name ? Why different set of pics from Viola's ?
Anyone know ? I'd imagine her average scores of Looks 6.89 / Performance 6.48 might have something to do with it. Or maybe I'm bugging.
I've also found an interesting review that was actually removed from TER for her, written not too long ago.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/detail/nana-review-by-mauidiver-2223225
Even though the review is removed, the metdata is still there in the source of the page (developer console/elements in chrome or whatever browser you use). If you didn't know, the page of TER reviews contains metadata of 'general details' field so it can be searchable by keywords.
That metadata reads "3310308,Have seen Nana multiple times and decided it's finally time to speak up about her. Nana's a very sweet, friendly, intimate girl and provides an hour or more of relaxing pleasure for me. This is a review of my most recent experience:
Well, 3310308 is the person's deleted account ID. But what I like is "it's finally time to speak up about her". The guy has several reviews of Nana already under another account, and pretends (ie ,lies) like it's his first time reviewing her. Now, ignoring the sheer irony that this guy's account was told to stay in his lane by TER, the question is - how bad is Nana that an advertiser/influencer has to make different accounts pretending to be a different guy reviewing her ? And her rating STILL be under 7 ? Jeez Louise.
I support your efforts to be pro-monger Rocketbro; and I'm definitely not cool with snitching and / or deception of any type. I'm glad you speak your truth and I know you may not feel the love sometimes; I do my part. I know I'm a bit eccentric and over the top but it's my style; it's time to admit I'm an old FUCK. Ha ha
Wow, you really do love me. I have to admit, this brings tears of joy to my eyes.
And yes, I've tried to engage you respectfully numerous times but there's never a happy ending. I prefer to spend my time and energy focused on the girls, maybe you should try that sometime.
We've had a pretty decent run. Before, you know, you ran with my secret and snitched on me behind my back. I've spent my time voluntarily cleaning up that forum, and that's what I got the minute I cleaned your advertisement of an org that didn't belong in that forum at all, and belonged in the ads forum.
You prefer to spend your time and energy advertising the girls, fixed that for you. I prefer sharing my assessment of my time with the girls with the community. I may not have seen nearly the number of girls you've seen, especially since I repeat a lot, but best believe Ill give any mongers the completely honest rundown of any girl I've seen, including my favorites and their downsides and upsides.
Rocket out.
Yawn...."Rocket Out"
Final thought. I think we'd all be amazed, surprised, and perhaps even thrilled if you actually posted about a girl that you have seen. You seem to prefer talking about girls that you haven't seen so you are providing little direct useful information to this community. Maybe you don't see girls and, if so, perhaps a different forum is more your style.
I've had an account on TER for 10 years or so and I think I have maybe a dozen (or fewer) posts in the forums. You are approaching 600 posts just this year I think.
Go see a girl, have fun or, to paraphrase the late and great Robin Williams from Good Morning Vietnam ... you, sir, are in serious need of a blowjob.
"Rocket Out" LOL
I've spoken a lot about many girls I've seen, on this very board. Many of them.
We had many a discussions with fine gentlemen on here about girls I've seen, I've given out a few recommendations and few suggestions for ones to avoid. Just recently, I've spoken about my favorites whom I love dearly for the service they provide to me.
We just talked about Taylor and how there were two Taylors in the bay, which sparked confusion. I've talked about Angela. We talked about doubles recently about concrete girls who do provide them.
And - I've never refused any information to any monger who'd ask me for information on a girl I've seen.
The only time I refused any information on a girl online, was for a former storefront amp Viet woman (who was UTR) phone number request on the rm forum, which I did not feel comfortable disclosing to someone with very few posts or reviews.
Funny how now you're discussing me instead of the girls. You don't want to discuss Nara because it struck your nerve ?
Fine, can we discuss Gigi ? She was a great one the last time I saw her. Very good DT, awesome 69. We can talk about Kira, good rim and good DT although couldn't take a pounding. You're just being dishonest here saying I dont talk about girls. This couldn't be further from the truth.
What I find more interesting are the PMs I've received, noting your misogynistic and narcissistic nature, which is apparently clear and obvious to everybody except you.
I'm done ... you stay in your lane and I'll stay in mine.
First you say I don't see girls and am not useful to the community... and don't talk about the girls.
Now it's some other nonsense. Make up your mind already.
I was never misogynistic, sorry. If it's mysogyny to review girls correctly, then anyone on any review site who ever reviewed a girl is a misogonyst. Do I pay girls for a fuck? Yes. I also pay my cmt for a hard
massage. That doesnt make me a misogynyst,sorry.
Did I shit on the orgs for fake reviews and other stuff? You bet. Girls != orgs.
But again, when I offer to talk about the actual girls you don't talk about them and rather focus on me. Isn't that ironic? What you want to do is to advertise the girls, not actually talk about them.
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I was referring to how other guys/handles feel about you in these forums. I abstained from voting.
"Rocket Out" ... I think I remember my son saying that ... when he was 3 years old LOL
Listen, I actually agree we should do our own thing. However, I consider fake reviews and not-so-subtle advertising my thing too. Don't expect me to just stand back.
I believe we're done here. I'm going back to discussing girls and monger-related things. I did my job here, now everyone can decide for themselves.
I heard that CLL is doing shill reviews. It's time I investigate it, Rocket-style. I even have CDL's blessing to 'put them out of business'. LOL. I don't see why I would want to do that, but I will certainly not pull punches if I do find shill reviews.
I hear Jean may or may not (interesting word choice) back, so I hope she does come back, you will be happy. I want each monger to be happy with their CFs.
Cheers.
I’d love to hear a report from you on how those whole day sessions went sometime.
Glad to see you are still around.
I flew to Vegas twice last fall to see Nana (then Ivy at clublovelinelv.com). All day sessions both times and it was fabulous. We had time to explore part of the strip, ate very well in some nice restaurants and then had plenty of time in the room together. All day at the agency is 2pm-3am or 13 hours. Rack rate is $400/hr outcall.
Nana (now Nara at BG) and I just click and I've seen her countless hours since she started at Cara's last year. I was her #1 customer, first day. As soon as the door closed when I first met her I texted the PO to extend my time but, alas, it was booked and I wasn't allowed to bump the guy after me.
The trip to Vegas is also pretty damn reasonable, 3 days 2 nights with air and a suite at the Venetian or Bellagio. Check your favorite travel web site for packages.
How about some 6s and 7s and some real intel this time ??
Man, I feel sorry for you. I don't see girls who are 6's or 7's. Sorry buddy.
rarely even open reviews that are 6 and below, so I have mentioned before that writing them is a waste of time, but of course, there was push-back from the guys who believe a 5 is average and a 6 is above-average. Maybe in theory, but not in reality.
Considering that maui sees nana whose average score on this site with a decent sample size is below 7 in both looks/performance (and that's with his three or four 8/9ish factored in)... and considering he gets the VIP perks of sampling new girls before anyone else as the first customer of the tour, I'd say the chances of him seeing girls who are 7 or 6 is pretty high. He just won't talk about it.
Damn, all the speculation about me makes me feel so fucking special.
As Sally Field said when she finally got an Oscar ... "You Like Me, Right Now, You Like Me"
LOL
Nana's (BTW she's back to vnf after being Nara for what, three days?) below average scores on this site isn't exactly speculation. It's a fact. Your several reviews stating you saw her are also a fact.
The other stuff I just go off what you said about seeing the new girls as first appointment, so hey - I'm just citing what you yourself told me. Not much speculation here,if any. Sorry.
For the nth time, you just don't get it.
I'm changing lanes to avoid you. I'm tired of getting rear-ended.
If you really wanted to avoid me, you wouldn't reply to my post that was addressed to CDL.
rear-ended, stay off the TS board. Lol
Or maybe in his case, he backed into it. lol
Cue BLPOS calling you a tranny basher over this post.
Can we all agree that having two naked mongers doing a tag team with two naked and willing kgirls is NOT gay?!?!
SMDH
Agreed. Some people think rimming is gay too, when it involves a woman caressing your genitals. I never got that. People got too many insecurities lol
Things only start approaching gay when you willingly start interacting with a male, in a sexual way.
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I will NOT be judgmental until AFTER I read the review and see who did what to whom. Lol There are reviews I've read of guys doing DP and both stuffing their dicks together into one pussy at the same time. I said then and I say now that if two guys want to rub their dicks together, do they really need the girl there just to make a "feasible" argument that its NOT gay to rub their dicks together? Your review will tell us everything, I'm sure, and if there was no gay activity, then I will be the FIRST one to say it was a gang bang with NO gay activities. Fair enough?
I’ll weigh in here... for whatever it may be worth... DP is such a strange concept to me because your dick is rubbing another dick... so half your “friction” or “pleasure” is another dude’s dick... not for me... I mean I’ll do DP in separate holes... but even if my balls touch that wouldn’t be my idea of fun... I have always wanted to be part of a Blow Bang as long as I don’t touch other dude’s genitals I’m good!
the same as most guys. I agree with your reasoning that is you are on opposite ends of the girl, sort of spit-roasting style, its not gay.
I am not into "two dicks in a bed" no matter how far our dicks stay apart, but I don't care if others enjoy it. By the same token I also am not about to do a DP under ANY circumstances, and while it sounds a lot more gay than what you just described, I still don't care if others enjoy it.
Let's put it this way, if BLPOS does it, it's fucking gay, because I don't like the Fat ass lying piece of shit and I look for ANY excuse to insult him. OTOH if you, Twoon or Rocket enjoy it, I really can't care less if some people think it's gay.
Actually BLPOS is probably a bad example since from what I have heard the fat ass tub of lard hasn't engaged in sex of any kind, gay or straight since well before FOSTA/SESTA became the law of the land.
I don't wanna have sex with another guy. But I do watch hetero porn, and see guys and dicks all the time doing some lass -- even gang bangs. So just having some other dick in the room isn't going to upset me (I've never done a MFM threesome.) My focus is going to be on the chick. As if virtual reality porn. Gay is what is in your head. If you are doing a gal and thinking about a guy, that's gay.
If you are a guy and you have a dick in your ass, it's not what you have in your head that makes you gay, it's the dick in your ass. ROFLMFAO
Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
Personally I don't want another dick in the room, but I agree that simply having another dick in the room doesn't necessarily make it gay, unless of course that other dick somehow finds it's way into your mouth or asshole. lol
For me, just as you say in your post, I’d have to know and really like the girl - as well as truly enjoy her company outside of naked time - before I’d be willing to spend a whole day with her. Much less actually pay for it.
But, I can think of a few that I know and have known with whom that would be a blast.
Thanks for the report.
My fave Booker is BACK! Joann!
Whoo hoo!
I know it's not shill Friday but just wanted to let my Nor Cal monger brothers know what's up.
And I pledge, Rocketbro, to keep it REAL.
😉
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I've heard some rumors about this too. I hope they dont come back with that LA swag and raise prices, lol.
Twoon, you see Tiana for 260 now ?
Tiana texts me invitations, often, to partake of her kgirls. I reply 'I only have eyes for you, my dear!!' I haven't sessioned with Tiana in years....
😋😉
I've been fortunate with some, who will not be named and who've raised their rates, to get the 'grandfathered' rate.
YMMV
This an official confirmation that Tiana runs SA?
Nice, nice. Always thought so, but lacked a confirmation from someone close. Explains indoorsports blatant advertising of the org as well as that review bot wave.
Sean says I shouldn't post after 9 pm and I believe it was after midnight...
The digits I have is for the booker for SA.
Upon further reflection, the booker texts me often to come partake of their offerings.
I can neither confirm nor deny your assumption. Just that I'm invited by booker and I only have eyes for Ms Tiana at that org; I wasn't aware she raised her rate to $260 / hr donation.
I got Bora and the new crew at Baykisses org on my monger radar. Finally managed to remove vampire kgirl's (aka HALMEONI) fangs from my neck. The psychic steel cable still tugs at me; that's next.
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Submitted for your consideration and approval...
The Power of Letting Go
#1 non-doing or flow; go with the flow.
#2 Embrace change; bend like bamboo in the wind.
#3 useful v useless; circumstances determine when something is useful or useless.
#4 not focusing on outcome; the more we value the outcome, the worse we perform in the present.
#5 letting go of excess; aim for what we need.
Sigh
You may ask me what's your point Twoon?
It's the middle of a Pandemic. Don't know about you but I'm not going with the flow. I work hard to maintain excellent hygiene. I wear my mask. And I observe social distancing; I don't wanna kill anyone's grandma. That being said, I miss smiles and hugs and high fives. Fortunately, we have kgirls at AAMP.
Word from Joann is the Baykisses crew had some obstacles so they're on pause.
Vampire kgirl is moving out of state. As much as I want to let go and be done, I've become attached to her. I must set my singing bird free; even if she's a vampire singing bird! D'oh!!!
Nothing that a session at AAMP cannot fix. Fortunately, we have kgirls at AAMP.
I'd like to get back to go with the flow and get my two in my hour session; once a week. Addiction is a bitch. Temperance is the only solution for me.
Is the cup really always full?!?!
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