your point in general. Only that the 1/6000 is NOT the correct metric and would grossly understate the actual probability, even for you perhaps (do you live somewhere that is below or above the state average -- everyone has a different answer more than likely). The point was that your 1/6000 was not about contracting the infection -- that is a meaningless number in that case, it's just a measure of how many currently have been reported as having the infection.
The point I made was that looking at the current frequency of reported infections (some measure of the probability of interacting with an infected person if you in fact are out in public) grossly under states the chances of interacting with someone that is infected by a large margin (by orders of magnitude).
So what do you think would happen if and/or when a k-girl provider tests positive for the virus? Would the gal’s booker or agent contact all the gal’s recent customers? And since the current k-girl scene features a lot of the gals changing agencies and locations, how far reaching would that be?
There’s also the problem for those guys that are in a relationship. Trying to convince the SO that you got it from the grocery clerk might pose a problem. I personally am putting my hobbying on the back burner until I feel it’s really safe. Ciao!
If I had an SO at home, or elderly relatives, or a thousand other situations where I would be putting other people at risk, I too would probably stop seeing providers too.
But here is something to keep in mind about K-Girls in most parts of the country, they are already on "shelter in place" lifestyles during their working tour in whatever city they happen to be in. Except for the clients they see, they weren't going out a lot even before COVID.
I live in Texas, here are the numbers for Texas, there are roughly 30,000,000 people in this state. There are roughly 5,000 cases of COVID here, and less than a hundred deaths. That translates to 1 in 6,000 people having COVID, and less than one in 60 of those people actually dying. I am barely sixty, I haven't smoked a cigarette in well over 30 years, I am not overweight with all the underlying health problems that come from being a fat ass, I don't get so much as a cold more than every ten years or so, I am pretty much in PERFECT health. I am more likely to get killed by getting into a crash on the way to the doctor to get tested than I am to die from COVID itself.
That said, while I have zero worries about dying from the disease myself, I would feel guilty giving it to someone else, so "IF" I didn't live alone, and IF I were married or had kids, or had elderly parents that I saw all the time, most likely I would stop seeing hookers/SBs until this was over, but since the only person I am putting at risk is myself, I'd rather skip a trip to the grocery store where you encounter literally dozens of people than give up sex.
And if you are going to see hookers at all, K-Girls happen to be fanatics about hygiene, none of the ones who "tour" have children or families with them, the only people they come into contact with are their customers.
Your approach makes complete sense as you really are not risking anyone who is near and dear to you.
However I think that Texas is way behind in practicing social distancing and I think that shit is going to hit the fan in states like TX and LA.
and most of Louisiana is MUCH different that New Orleans, where most of the problems in that state are coming from, much like NYC is where most of the problems are in NY. All the social distancing in the world isn't going to do you any good if you pile thousands of people at a time into the human tin cans that they call a subway system. You could fuck a thousand K-Girls and never come in contact with as many germs as an hour ride on the NY subway.
As for Texas, I guess we shall see. I reserve the right to change my mind about how I treat this as circumstances dictate.
As for Texas, I guess we shall see. I reserve the right to change my mind about how I treat this as circumstances dictate.
(Still photo of Sharon Mitchell from Joy (1977). In this scene, stalker-nympho Sharon (Joy) is on a subway with one other passenger, a very nervous, shy guy reading "How To Pick Girls." With zero dialog, she seduces the guy. She fucks him on the subway floor (his pants down around his knees or ankles). As the subway starts to slow down to stop at the next station, she grabs her stuff and runs out the door at the station. As the subway starts up, the guy is still holding the book which he clutches closer and he triumphantly says, "It worked! It worked!" However, Joy has left behind one very important clue which lets the police track her down and catch her. The Golden Age.) 
Oops. Typo in the book title: "How To Pick Up Girls!" by Eric Weber (1971)
One small point to bring up. The state wide stats are not really that helpful in trying to figure the probabilities. Also it is not really the 1/6000 but the probability of any of the people you cross paths with having the infection.
For instance, the area where I live has about 0.00033 and 0.00036 (depending on how I define "my area"). But if I assume I cross paths with 100 people on any given day that means I have more than a 3% chance of crossing paths with the infection every day.
Now, I don't think that information changes you decision at all, or the underlying basis for it. Just noting that the 1 of 6000 is probably a bit misleading to some.
Given it seem that asymptomatic contagion appears to be possible you could give it to one of the girls you see so you are somewhat placing them at risk. But I agree, the risk is probably the other mongers than the K-girl (and other responsible providers) someone might be seeing.
I don't come in contact with a hundred people a week, much less a day and neither does the average K-Girl. So if you are coming in contact with that many people, you are at a MUCH higher risk of contracting COVID than I.
BTW "crossing paths with" and actually catching COVID are two VERY different numbers, You correctly said that you might have a "3% chance of crossing paths with" COVID which is a far cry from a 3% chance of actually catching it.
your point in general. Only that the 1/6000 is NOT the correct metric and would grossly understate the actual probability, even for you perhaps (do you live somewhere that is below or above the state average -- everyone has a different answer more than likely). The point was that your 1/6000 was not about contracting the infection -- that is a meaningless number in that case, it's just a measure of how many currently have been reported as having the infection.
The point I made was that looking at the current frequency of reported infections (some measure of the probability of interacting with an infected person if you in fact are out in public) grossly under states the chances of interacting with someone that is infected by a large margin (by orders of magnitude).
I DID mention that roughly one in six thousand people in the state of Texas had tested positive for COVID, but NOWHERE did I apply that metric into the likelihood of catching COVID. That was all on you. My statement was the with only 1 in 6,000 people testing positive and less than a hundred people out of a total of roughly Thirty Million people living in the state having died from COVID that my chances of dying from COVID under the present circumstances were/are miniscule.
Since simply coming into contact with someone with COVID doesn't mean that you are going to get it from them, combined with the fact that very few people come into contact with only one person a day, that means it's pretty much IMPOSSIBLE to accurately gauge anyone's odds of catching the virus, That said, with only around a hundred people out of 30,000,000 having died from it, I find it difficult to believe anyone can dispute my claim that the odds of a healthy person like myself dying from COVID are astronomical. I'll leave it to someone else with a LOT more time on their hands than myself to calculate the exact odds.
"One small point to bring up. The state wide stats are not really that helpful in trying to figure the probabilities. Also it is not really the 1/6000 but the probability of any of the people you cross paths with having the infection. "
My doc says I'm in better shape than 99% of men my age, so if I get tested, it will probably be to see if I already had it, or might be immune, so I can donate antibodies for vaccine manufacture. California has 40,000,000, and proportionally low numbers like Texas. I know you were in the military like me, so you understand the concept of situational-awareness. This is not like someone shooting a round at you from 300 yards. The range here is six feet. That's six fucking feet! Anyone who is so unaware of where they are that they can't stay six feet from people they don't know should probably not survive this anyway and pass their genes onto another generation.
With that said, I totally agree with Cenzo's point. Married guys or those in committed relationships are in a completely different situation than us. Even though the excuses of WHERE they got it are varied and many, guys that are married still have some affection for their wives and don't want to make them suffer this illness on their account.
I look at it as having to be good at risk management. You follow the data and what is happening in your area and look for ways to limit or minimize the risk. I have always been a risk taker, in life and business, because success often follows taking risks that others wouldn't take, so the trick for me it to get the risks down to a level that I'm willing to accept. Every day I check the map for the "hot spots" in SoCal. Most are in the more urbanized areas of LA. OC is inherently more rural and the population is not as dense, not to mention that LA has incall locations in the middle of these densely populated hot spot areas, whereas the OC incalls are not. Obviously, the only "plan" that is 100% effective is not to go at all, but that's not a very attractive option for me. So I will minimize the risks as much as I can. If the infection rates increase where I'm going, I will figure something else out.
Its so slow for the girls right now that I have floated the idea of having them come to my house, or I go to their apartment. We'll make it a two hour session so its worth the travel time for the one of us who is traveling to the other. A large number of Kgirls are advertising outcall right now at a $100 upcharge. For those that are freaked out by the virus, this may be an option to consider. Probably won't work for young guys that still live with their parents. Lol
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posting some really funny shit lately. Are you drinking or smoking first? Lol
but lately I do agree that Imp has actually hit the mark more often than he misses, maybe you are on to something where it comes to him either drinking or smoking. What ever he's been doing lately, it's actually working.
Have you also noticed, his posts are a fraction as long as they usually are.
trying to argue a losing position. He's just .entertaining us and it IS working.
Did you include in your risk management of hobbyists who live in hot spots, who may already be infected, visiting your fav kgirl provider in the OC area? To me, this is the unknown factor...hobbyists from unknown origins. ITs good that you're healthy, single and can survive with mild like symptoms. I got lots of factors against me, primarily the age factor.
but anecdotally, it seems like from the new reviews, there are not a lot of LA guys coming to OC yet. I also noticed that a lot of the LA mongers responded on the recent poll here that they are going to stop completely until this is over. (I would, too, if I lived in WLA.) That's consistent with there being very few OC reviews going up from LA-based Kgirl mongers. In my opinion, this militates in favor of believing the OC may be a safer place to hobby right now. Granted, its an unknown whether LA guys are coming to OC and just not writing reviews, so there would be no way to include that in my assessment. I'm also comfortable with the feedback form OC Kgirls who have told me what they are doing to stay safe. Even though business is slow, if a guy looks or acts ill at all, they do not let him inside the apartment.
So my point was that I know we cannot eliminate the risks completely and still see Kgirls. I endeavor to make an informed assessment of the risks using data that IS available and then decide if the risk at a tolerable level for me. Right now, I've comfortable, but if Kgirls in OC start to get tested, that means they are showing symptoms, and I would have to reassess if I can handle the new risk level or not. Its an evolving situation every day.
My doc says I'm in better shape than 99% of men my age, so if I get tested, it will probably be to see if I already had it, or might be immune, so I can donate antibodies for vaccine manufacture. California has 40,000,000, and proportionally low numbers like Texas. I know you were in the military like me, so you understand the concept of situational-awareness. This is not like someone shooting a round at you from 300 yards. The range here is six feet. That's six fucking feet! Anyone who is so unaware of where they are that they can't stay six feet from people they don't know should probably not survive this anyway and pass their genes onto another generation.
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sports medicine. Being a flabby nerd, you wouldn't understand why anyone my age would want a doc like that, and I don't have time to educate you.
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CDL never claimed to have been in a war. Just pointing it out.
service history and combat experience on the GD board in the past, if he's THAT interested, he can look it up.
...Isn't that what a fuckboard is for?
You wouldn't know what its like to perform public service. You always have been, and always will be, just out for yourself. Besides, they won't take people who are obese, so even if you wanted to, you are not qualified. You have to be able to do pull-ups. You can't even tie your own shoes by bending over. You have to put your foot up on something. When was the last time you saw your dick without using a mirror? But you are the first one here that will denigrate someone else's service. That's why you are called Big-Piece-of-Shit (BPOS) on the other boards. Well, I guess now, here too. Bwahahahahaha
...I think most bookers won't call or text you to tell you that you just fucked someone with COVID-19!!! I really doubt that would happen but I hope that I am wrong on thinking that and should something like that happen, they do the right thing.
I think GaGambler post makes sense that it is best to refrain if one has a wife, SO, old parents, girl friend or kids at home to play it safe but if you are on your own and healthy, you may want roll the dice.
I think 60-90 days refraining isn't going to kill me, so I will wait for the storm to pass. I get the itch to see someone sometimes but when I envision the use of ventilator machine, I change my mind.
You can throw that image right out the window! You wont be getting one anyhow at this point I suspect. You'd have to get sick pretty soon.
Maybe you'll need to start thinking about the spot in the room where you wished the ventilator was while gasping like a fish out of water 
but I would agree with Beefy Boy that bookers will not be sounding any alarms. Its an illegal and business and they are in it for the money. Sometimes bookers don't have the final word anyway. Some bookers are also owners and some aren't.
I've been counting on the girls themselves to let me know if anyone at their agency gets infected by a customer. The limitation is that there are some agencies right now where I don't know any of the girls currently working. I do have info from the OC places that I have been going to lately, and so far, no reports of any girls going to get tested because of symptoms.
Now that everyone from banks to grocery check outs are putting decals on the floor for social distancing, chances of random infections from people you don't know may start going down. The next few weeks will tell.
I just had few text exchanges with one booker today and she told me that her business is really slow and she had only 1-2 customers/day for the past 4 days and she manages three girls. She said that she is going to close for few weeks. I got similar text from another booker when I wished her safe journey during this crazy time.
So it seems that there is a good hold back from many guys.