Kegels lol!
Yes I refer the op to the GFE addict thread.Whenever the IOP(illusion of passion) is too much for you wait until the spell passes before acting. Kind of like not hitting "send" on an emotional email. Always decompress so no harm is done. For those of us prone to looking over the edge it is good to have a mechanism to bring you back to solid ground. I recommend seeing another babe to gain perspective. Or as you say think about your family and real life.
Sometimes when I see a K-girl my brain kind of stops working and I'm ready to transfer my account balances to her.
Sometimes I do things for them that I would never even consider for my family, which is a good thing because then I realize I should treat my family better and then I do.
K-girls have super magic powers.
I call it THE HUSTLE. Most will be happy to take everthing you have if you let them. The key is: Don't fall in love unless you make more money than they do.
Ye, thankfully the one woman I offered to buy things for would turn them down, so instead I offered practical things, things that would make her life easier.
That's when I was given a surprise at the end of a session. I had mentioned taking out the trash a week earlier, and at the end she said I have trash for you. I thought she was joking, as I said goodbye, I got a gift of two full bags of trash. Lol.
That's when I realized I should do those little things for my family, help with trash, and more practical things.
I have a ways to go before I make more money than they do, maybe with enough hard work and some good fortune. Then maybe I can make it rain
But be really happy if they fall in love with your and you make less! 
(yeah, less likely than a visitor to LA getting screened with an out of state area code and 1 week in the hobby)
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Do they really make that much? I heard that the house keeps most of the money, it goes toward their "debt."
(yeah, less likely than a visitor to LA getting screened with an out of state area code and 1 week in the hobby) -- Modified on 12/18/2016 2:36:07 PM
Working six days a week with only a few weeks off for vacation each year makes about $250-300K annually, net AFTER the agency cut. Top tier girls are over $350K. Any startup "debt" for money advanced for airfare, photo shoots, visa help, lingerie costs, etc., is easily repaid the first few weeks they're here.
but I will say, it's rare to find a "broke" K-Girl. Unlike many American hookers who are constantly finding themselves short of rent money each month, I can't remember ever meeting a K-Girl begging for handouts or loans.
Exactly how much any of them make should remain between them and their accountant, and their "debt" is most certainly none of our business, nor should we be having discussions on how things "actually work". Let's at least pretend to have some discretion here. If it's not too late to simply delete your post, I would certainly advise doing so.
I get your point and I see where you are coming from, GaG. And considering how many morons with no sense of boundaries are out there, it is probably best policy.
But at the same time, i'm not ready to put it all in a black box. That seems contrary to the very reasons why I come here.
So, I guess two questions:
1) Where and how do (would) you draw the line.
2) If the info is real (and not actually damaging to their opsec), what's the problem? Isn't sunliight the great disinfectant?
Not putting you on the spot. I jjst think you are one of the few who can intelligently offer an opinion on this
1. Where and how do (would) you draw the line.
There are a few lines to be drawn, both socially and emotionally. You don't want the kgirl at your daughter's Quinceanera, she doesn't want you at her Chuseok dinner table. You may exchange text at 2AM one day and have a deep and heart-to-heart convo, but then she could forget about that a week later.
For me OTC dining is one of the most realistic hurdle -- the two of you might not have totally compatible style and tastes; and while in a social setting there's no telling who's going to come up to your table for a pleasant surprise. That's why a lot of my experience with kgirl dining has been restricted to DATY.
2. If the info is real (and not actually damaging to their opsec), what's the problem? Isn't sunliight the great disinfectant?
Getting blacklisted is the least of worries for an established hobbyist. People who have their real identities/employment info in the hands of the bookers are very careful before they start discussing insider business nonchalantly. Looking back into the beginning of this decade, people lost a whole lot more for talking without respect. In one particular case, a nosy vigilante ended up near the banks of the LA river, he was survived by his wife and child.
Things like screening methods, Addresses of incalls and how much a hooker makes are certainly NONE of our business, unless of course a woman in the business cares to share this information with you, in which case you should respect her trust in you and keep your big fucking mouth shut. (not you of course)
With all the hysteria about human trafficking ANY discussion about "debt" should be off limits, the same as how visas are obtained etc etc etc.
I really don't know which is worse, the misconception that all Asian hookers are sex slaves held here against their will, or that they are really part of the 1% getting rich here illegally. Do we really want to promulgate either of these false ideas?
Ye, basically any information will be misinterpreted. If someone hears the average Kgirl makes X amount, some clowns will think it's okay to mistreat them, not tip them, try to short them, etc.
Even bbfs, fuckers will find a way to abuse them.
Especially on a public forum where you have manbabies, trolls, argumentative losers, PLs.
Anything can and will be used against K-girls, the less public information the better.
that suggests locations or booker names is absolutely off limits. A slip of the tongue, and ANY of us could be there when the place gets raided. I even object to guys who say they parked next door in the XXX parking lot. Nothing should be said here that can be used to assist LE in narrowing their search for incall locations.
How much a specific girl make IS NONE of our business, but discussing the topic of earnings in generalities and ranges harms no one anymore than discussing the range of earnings for any other profession or occupation, legal or not.
Why not simply leave it at: how does it relate to one's choice of who to see.
Will the topic continue to crop up. Sure. My suggestion for those more in the know is STFU and not get drawn in and let the ignorant speculate or say silly things. For those like me who are not privi to such details assume if you're not being told by the girls you see - or if you inquire and get a cold shoulder -- you don't need to know so be polite and respectful and remain discreet.
In some way's I almost think this "I want to know the background mystery" is almost as bad as the "Help me I've fallen in love with a K-Girl and cannot stand up" thing we hear -- and many experience . Same solution here: a little self-discipline
My position on the subject is not unique to K-girls alone, but things like "debt" and visas obviously don't apply to our home grown talent.
There is a reason most hookers find this fascination with their personal lives a bit "creepy". At least on the other boards the hookers can speak up for themselves when guys start crossing the line. As we know, K-Girls aren't exactly spending their days posting on this board.
I know there is a temptation to step up and try to prove how smart we are by even entertaining some of these inappropriate questions, but your solution is the correct one, a little self discipline goes a long ways.
Agreed, we're on the the same page here.
I think most of the discussion on these topics (income, logistics, entry/exit, exactly how independent any given girl is....) is mostly about the egos of those giving the answers -- and the egos of those not knowing the answers.
None if it really helps with the girls with their goals for being here or our goals for being here -- it's just the fluff that fills the in between time when we're not otherwise occupied. This one of those "the devil makes work for idle hands" situations? We should all then be good, god-fearing people and book more sessions
This is no BFS for the guys in LA. A higher percentage of LA guys date girls on the outside than in the rest of the country, so they've already been told this stuff by the girls themselves, and most long-time LA vets who have been regulars with Kgirls already know the financial model. Its all been posted here before, so there are no "state secrets" being given away.
As you can see, I was speaking in general terms, NOT naming any names, or suggesting specific girls' incomes, so no need to think any specific girl's privacy has been invaded. Most guys here can do the math on their own without my comments, so my post is borderline redundant anyway.
Specific locations are one, how women screen is another, and most definitely where it comes to K-Girls we should NEVER discuss publicly how the visa process works.
three never being discussed on a public board. However, discussing what information to supply in order to get screened is certainly okay. Newbies need to know what to say to the booker. As you say, HOW they screen is another matter. That's their business.
IMO translated in Korean as
Kegels!!
Edit, fixed typo.
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Kegels lol!
Yes I refer the op to the GFE addict thread.
Whenever the IOP(illusion of passion) is too much for you wait until the spell passes before acting. Kind of like not hitting "send" on an emotional email. Always decompress so no harm is done. For those of us prone to looking over the edge it is good to have a mechanism to bring you back to solid ground. I recommend seeing another babe to gain perspective. Or as you say think about your family and real life.
Spell checker for a living?
Haha
I may be guilty of that on occasion as well as grammar, but I know I can definitely fail at proper grammar.
Otherwise I was going to PM you about the spelling error, haha.
The first line was the spelling correction?!
Haha
I realize I shouldn't have said anything just in case I was wrong, haha.
Happens to me with reviews, sometimes I want to take out my mobile device right after a session and write a review.
After a visit, I waited a week to get grounded before I wrote a review, but my review still was gushing for the woman. To the point where I said I didn't even care if others have a bad end of a YMMV session with her. In fact, I recommended the women to a trusted fellow and he had an awful session. I felt awful for the recommendation. On the plus side I had recommended some good women to him, so he didn't hold it against me, at least so far.
Can't get enough.
Yes, but remember it is backed up with beauty and passionate service. Given the choices, I am all for it. Plus I'm a pushover.
Sometimes I do things for them that I would never even consider for my family, which is a good thing because then I realize I should treat my family better and then I do.
K-girls have super magic powers.
Sometimes I do things for them that I would never even consider for my family, which is a good thing because then I realize I should treat my family better and then I do.
K-girls have super magic powers.
I get a kick out of being involved in day to day activities even if I didn't session with them that day.
That means they feel comfortable with me and I really don't mind dining out with a beautiful, sexy woman.
A few even treat and speak to me as though we're married. lol
I hope that treating and speaking to you as if your married is a good thing, only because I've seen some marriage conversation and treatment that isn't so nice.
What coeur-de-lion said is best, key is to not fall in love. I know I did and that left me dumber for a little bit, now when I meet a K-girl I fall in love for a few days and eventually snap out of it.
It does sound genuine to do standard daily activities outside session. That's special.
Yeah I just pretend my Colonel is giving me orders. lol
Not falling in love is correct but having special knowledge/things between just the 2 of you is great.
I actually like being told I'm not doing something right.....
Ooh Rah!
Yep -- fall in love as much and as deeply as you want BCD but once the door opens again treat it like Vegas: what happens BCD stays BCD
Sometimes I do things for them that I would never even consider for my family, which is a good thing because then I realize I should treat my family better and then I do.
K-girls have super magic powers.