I am somewhat confused so maybe you can help.
I come from Manila and recently relocated to the US. I don't understand the difference between a Korean girl who in an agency, a Chinese girl who is in an agency, or even a filipino girl in an agency. Is a K-girl only Korean? I suppose it is since it starts with a "k". Can you explain why there is a difference in Asian provider? Are K-girls just more beautiful? Thanks Christine
high-volume provider that works mostly from a 2-bedroom apartment incall she shares with another girl. Their bookings are made by an agency booker, and they generally consider a full day to be 7 or 8 customers. Six customers is a slow day. Break times are miniscule compared to independent providers. Accordingly, Kgirl is more of a term that comes from the business model they use rather than the fact that they are Korean. Thai, Japanese and Chinese agencies have copied the Kgirl business model.
Hobbyists are attracted because of the reasonable pricing (mostly $220-$300/hr) compared to independent providers and a consistently high level of service. Because each booker will handle up to 8 or 10 girls, cancellations are not the problem they are with indies. If a girl can't make an appointment that has been set, then the booker will usually have someone else on the roster that she/he can substitute in so that they hobbyist doesn't have to change his schedule. This is one of the most attractive aspects for me since scheduling is my biggest challenge in keeping up a hobby schedule of 5-8 hours a week.
I just wanted to say I talked to some guys today who are into AAMPs and the standard price in the Bay Area is still 220 with a very few asking 260. for whatever reason the LA area must have higher prices.
Holding prices down. There are fewer hobbyists than in LA, but more Kgirls working there than LA. The attraction for Kgirls is that the BA is the most liberal in the country when it comes to sanctuary treatment of girls who overstayed their visa but then get busted. If they attend 30 hrs of "hooker school" they get their records expunged so after that they are perpetually "first time offenders" so never get turned over to ICE because no criminal record.
Ironically, a few girls busted when the Feds took Redbook down had to take hooker school for two weeks on Tuesday and Thursday. On M-W-F they were working at incalls again a short distance from the DA's office. We have some ballsy Kgirls.
Other than LA area I still have not heard of $300 orgs on the West Coast. You are right about this being a "sanctuary" area for immigrants. The mayors of almost every town from SF to San Jose have declared their city a "sanctuary" city. I just assumed LA was like that.
Thanks for the explanation.
Seattle, Portland and Las Vegas is $300 for Kgirls. SD and OC are $260.00. One girl in LA does 45 minute sessions for $250, and 90 min for $500, so she is essentially getting a rate equivalent to $333 per hour. Major cities in the East are often at $300. Some agencies in NY are at $400, I believe. If I'm wrong, someone from there can correct me.
We have an agency tour Asians through here in Minneapolis. The first one I met was Japanese. The second one was Korean. In the last year they've toured maybe a half dozen or so different girls, mostly Korean. The rate last year was $300 hour. But a few months ago it went to $320.
I would bump Seattle to $350 for touring Kgirls. Anything less in the last year turned out to be either bait and switch or just not worth it.
Or at least all K-girls work for K-Girl agencies, there are a number of mixed Korean/Japanese or Korean/Chinese who identify as Korean that meet all the other criteria to be K-girls
As CDL stated above, being a K-girl is more of a business model than anything else. A low volume, or independent Korean provider would not be considered a K-girl, but OTOH a Thai or Chinese girl following the very same business model (and there are many) would also not be considered a K-girl. Thai girls are the second most common nationality following this same business model, but no one calls them T-Girls as that term is already in use to describe TS providers.
So to properly answer your question a K-girl would be a provider that is both Korean and who works in accordance with the K-Girl business model.
Whats the avg rate for incall girls in your homeland? Heard is like $100 US dollar equivalent. Is that true?
Also is there services like Dkf, anal, cim, and even bareback in your homeland?
No, most of the agency girls seem to be called courtesans and the pickup girls in the bars bar-girls. Assume the independents are just called hookers and prostitutes like elsewhere.
I'm pretty sure you can get cheaper but the range I saw with the agencies was something between a little under 100 (50.xx to a 1 dollar) for two hours to about $170 or so for an hour. Was very happy with the girls that would stay over night for 9000 peso so never saw a reason to venture to the higher rates. Figured it would be a lot like the 250 comps with K-girls to what I hear about the $1K providers. There is only so much a girl can do that I'm interested in.
I suspect if you wanted you could probably get one you liked (if you have such an interest) for a week at the beach for 5 to 600 plus the normal expense (room, food, and other costs if you care for her company in other activities like scuba or boating or hiking...)
beauty is in the eye of the beholder and some of the best K-Girls I've seen have been good looking but not 10s and some not 9s.
BTW, you seem to be fairly tall for a Filipina -- and I personally found many to be as attractive as any K-girls.
Such a brave little girl coming over here. Love it! Please visit a NYC!
spinner I've got my eye on at the gym I go to. Might be taking a civvie break if it goes as planned. Then I'll save my money for Christine here. Lol
CDL,
Honest I think I would take a year prepare to see you. I have looked your past 6-8 reviews. Here is problem.
I am not pale white like the k-girls you review. I am filipina, brown like year long tan. I don't have huge boobs like you review, I am simple B cup. And finally I will need loose weight to get as skinny as you review. Also I think the k-girls taller than me I am a little short.
Christine
How many of the Kgirls I see spend time on tanning beds to get the dark tans that California is famous for.
I have posted this thought on other threads: For most guys like me who are over 50, service is king, appearance is not as important. Most all providers, except the VERY large, who are 20-30 years younger than me look pretty hot in my eyes. Personality, playfulness, intelligence, and being fully engaged in the moment are much more important than body "type" or height. (The Filipina girl at the gym I'm seducing is 4-11, so short in height is not an issue. Short on service is.)
To all of you thank you,
I think I understand more and I appreciate it.
To answer a few questions.
Actually you are right I am a little taller than average. I think average is around 5' ( US measurement ) and I am between 5'2" and 5'3" depends on day it seems.
In Manila providers are in a few separate distinct categories.
1- Craigslist whores, usually all scams, diseased or pimped. This is where good providers end up after drugs in many cases. If they have disease and no bar or agency will hire them they are on CL. Also this is where you will find girls that have been change from a guy, full post op. These are the girls that will do car dates, or see the middle and lower class filipino locals if they cant scam a foreigner. These girls will provide for as little as a meal to as much as can get. Usually asking around 3000.00 php or 60.00 USD but do not expect GFE, one pop and limited. Get tested as soon as you see one. Short time.
2- Agency girls, simply called companions most the time. Some market as Courtesans as the high end Chinese in HK will market. Most these providers are part time. They can be hit and miss. Some new some not so new. They are of course same as here run by agency. Agency sets it up, then sends them to locations. Lots of bait and switch. Hour rate just depends on how much experience girl has and how much she want to make money. Rates as low as 6000.00 php hour to around 12,000.00 php hour depending on many things. 120-240. Newer uglier girls will charge less or girl desperate for money. Over night can usually go 15,000.00 php to 25,000.00 php for models. 300 - 500 USD
3- Bar girl, simply call bar girl. They work in bar like independent but can only work that bar or another an owner has. Their job is to sell drinks. They get a commission on each drink you buy them. Do not be fooled, drinks not cut down. These girls drink most people under table. If they can talk guy into taking them home its almost always for an overnight. That called long time, but can or will do short time. Short time always one pop. This is most preferred girl. They are almost all very clean and of course no bait and switch. Bar fine usually about 3000.00 php, 60.00 USD. Another 5000.00 php, 1000 USD short time or up to 12,000.00 php, 240 USD overnight. Bar girls charge what they want, and if the guy is cute, will charge less. Bar girls very strict schedule and work 6 days a week. if late or skip day they fired. Usually work 3 pm to 4 am.
4- Independents- Thats me, provider, companion, courtesan, prostitute, hooker call me what you will. We are all same. Independents pay to advertise, many have pimps and are not really independent. I was to my own knowledge the first Independent in Manila to have own email, domain and website. I could be wrong. When I left there were less than 5 girls in all Manila has a website. Yes I had help from a foreigner to set it up. Most independents charge similar to Agency. Difference is very little if ever short time. Almost always DUO that doubles price or overnight. I charge more because I look more professional, yet nowhere near rates you pay for high end girls here in USA. Very few real bi providers in PHI.
Something to consider. In Asia GFE very different than here. Services are much more mechanical than good service here. DFK can be almost none in some girls. Real GFE services cost more than not.
Thank you for answering my question, I hope I answer yours. Please excuse grammar this a long post for me.
Christine
You just make Manila another destination in my vacation list. I like Filipina too. Your welcome pic immediately attracted me. I browsed more and thought I may have a chance, then I saw your screening method and gave up.
Nothing wrong with your screening. I had only ever seen K-girls and started with just my phone number, name, age, and, race, and sometimes 2 or 3 phone numbers of other K-girls for references. It got to be so effortless that I think it is too much trouble when I am interested in an independent. One time I was able to see a Thai girl because I was able to book the same way as K-girls, but I never went back again since she was more mechanical.
For me, it is more than a business model. I consider recently arrived Koreans or Japaneses as K-girls. I am amazed at their GFE and attitude during the first meeting, or even the first few minutes, no matter if there is a language barrier. That's why I am such a huge fan. People thought I was writing epic fantasy because I like the K-girls so much. It can be annoying, I know that.
Thank you for such nice words.
I am sorry my screening not work for you but one day things may change. I wish you best in your fun.
Christine
I thought you liked American guys so much they didn't need to be screened. Now I'm a bit nervous, too. Lol
CDL,
I have 2 levels of screening. One is for normal happy, horny, somewhat polite, respectful, cash carry potential client.
Then there is the CDL level screening. All of my normal plus:
1- Credit report
2- Health Record
3- Legal Disclaimer
4- Mental evaluation
5- Blood test
6- Urine Test
7- Proof of minimum size photo
OR.......
A ok reference from Lopaw
Christine
Lopaw will have my back. LMAO
Mental evaluation????? I may list to one side sometimes, but I wouldn't call that unbalanced. Lol
The mental review not to see if you list. Its to see where your kink does list. I want make sure that whatever your nasty deep desires are, its applied. even if you don't admit to those desire.
Hahahahahahah
Christine
Never nasty because I shower at the start of every session. I don't really consider anything I like to be a kink, and I have done pretty much everything a man and woman can do. I have not tried TS or men, and even if I became the new "virgin" on C block would die before allowing anything larger than a finger in the back door.
You need to move to Vegas.
I'll explain everything between pops.
I alternate between Asia, Vegas and Phoenix
Christine
Send her my way as well. Sharing is caring!
If Lopaw gets to her first, she may not want any of us guys no matter where we are.
Tomorrow I have time to call airline. I leave for Asia on the 15th back middle of September. Connect LA to Vegas. But I am thinking maybe spend a few days in LA if change of ticket not stupid price.
Christine