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I want to break him in, make him climb the ladder. I don't do personal recs for the obvious reasons one might cite, ESPECIALLY to drinking buddies! No, he wants in he goes the usual route. I feel like such a frat boy but it's fun.  I wanted to send  him to Tina at Nikki in SF but that ship has sailed, so I just need somewhere to send him to get a couple of referrals so I can send him to Kira and imagine him coming out in a body bag. He talks a long game but he's 61.

Who would you make him go see?

sag

It's been a while for me. My buddy wants to  get in  on the  action so I told  him  about  the rules.. Can any one help me out with orgs who  he can go to these  days  to  get established for screening at our favorites?

Thanks. I don't think he's down for chinese orgs.

sag

If he will give his ID I’m sure he can get in with LSC since they do different screening... BGC and Viola’s may also have alternative screening options!

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I think if his friend was willing to give his ID, he would have no problems getting in without references into most, if not all, orgs. I hear Caras PO barely replies to new mongers nowadays, so hers might be an issue even with id.

Why not contact one of the agencies you deal with and see if you can vouch for a friend?

SLAmpVIP

I agree that's exactly how I got one of my friends in

Welcome back to TER!  I noticed you joined in 2001 when I was an RB lurker...

 

I'm loving TER!  We even have our own forum for our beloved kgirls!  Sweet!!

 

Sag sent his buddy to get a session with Yuna at KGA.  No need for him to vouch apparently.  It's been my experience that many of the kgirls know each other personally or second hand through their girlfriend network.  You'd be surprised.  Anyhow, once one gets a kgirl to vouch for you, the gates to Wonderland become more readily accessible.  But if one acts out, one finds oneself BL at orgs they thought they were formerly approved with.  So, good idea to be on best behavior at a session.

in SoCal works with seeing newbie friendly orgs or building your rep on HX. You could technically be cleared with every org in a week if you see a kgirl everyday once you get started

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Sounds kinda like the bay. I thought LA kgirl orgs were some secret society where it'd be tough to get verified? Lol

Posted By: Golddust58
Re: building your rep
in SoCal works with seeing newbie friendly orgs or building your rep on HX. You could technically be cleared with every org in a week if you see a kgirl everyday once you get started
That can be a good strategy with one major caveat - do NOT interact with any of the providers openly in any of the forums.  This isn't so much an issue with the K-girls but with the other women over there. The forums are a big ego-feeding exercise for the women, and if you don't sufficiently suck up to them you will be on the shitlist - AND if one of you gives you a negative (non-safety) rating, don't be surprised if her "friends" join it.  Think of all the nasty little cliques back in your high school days and you will get the idea how they behave...

SLAmpVIP

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Yeah I hear they're very anti-BB out there, so they will  gang up on you.

I neither partake in nor discuss BBFS in the forums, so that's not the particular issue here. The problem is when you interact with the non K-girl ladies and fail to sufficiently kiss their asses to feed their overblown narcissistic egos. I had one of the local ladies here (Allison Snow) go bat-sh!t bonkers when she PMed me and I showed no interest in her. It would up with 4 different threads started over 3 days to complain about how "rude" I was and a slew of negative ratings from her and her little posse. Best thing  to do is if you get an unsolicited e-mail and don't care to continue the conversation, just delete it.

GaijinTony

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Got it.

BTW, GaijinTony - that is a familiar name, friend. I thought it might be you, but wasn't really sure. I owe you a few favors.

OK, glad to hear it. Pardon my slip - not a big deal, I don't hide that I am GT on other sites.

for the most overly-optimistic post I have seen in my 12 years on TER!!!  I take it you have not tried this yourself, owing to the fact that you have 5 reviews spanning from June to September?  With that said, its only "theoretically" possible, but knowing virtually all of the bookers in SoCal as I do (except for the new disreputable  ones that have been here less than a year), I can guarantee you it is highly unlikely.  I can tell  you with certainty that not all bookers cooperate in providing refs to all OTHER bookers. There is some bad blood between certain bookers and they do not cooperate with each other on verifications.  

 
In addition, many bookers will not even respond to new phone numbers for days, weeks or even months.  This is well documented not only on this board, but on Kgirl boards on other sites. The "three P's" of getting a response from a booker is still the most reliable way, and as I said, it can take weeks.  

 
With that said, you haven't defined what your definition of "newbie-friendly" is, but if you're referring to the 4 or 5 agencies that have sprung up since December who already have sketchy reputations for B & S, last-minute cancellations, and substandard Kgirls, then you might be right.  I have not been to any of those.  The orgs that have been here many years are less likely to fuck over a new guy than these upstarts, especially a new guy who breaks in the way I suggest in the next paragraph.  

 
I wouldn't recommend seeing a girl  at a different org anyway until you are well-established with the first one.  A better strategy is when you get approved, see all of the girls on that booker's roster before you ask for a ref for another agency.  Once you are "well-established" at one org, the bookers will bend over backwards to get you into the other orgs that they exchange references with, because you are ESTABLISHED as a good customer.  I also recommend taking a booker recommendation when you're new.  This tells the booker you are THEIR customer and not just the customer of the girl you want to see.    Seeing ONE girl at an org and then asking the booker to give you a ref for a different org is going to make them feel you used them like a cheap slut and you are more likely to get a "Go Fuck Yourself" than a reference.  If the booker has six girls and you  spent your first week seeing all of them, its the perfect time to tell the booker you want to see Zoomy at XYZ agency, and could you count on him for a reference to get you in until he gets some new girls in.  This is a 90%+ yes!!!  If you spent that week seeing 6 girls at different agencies, and then ask the same thing, like a said, its probably going to be a GFY.

I don't place much stock into the number of reviews someone has as they may not review every girl they see, review repeat visits or they may just be low volume. Not to mention focusing on quantity over quality leads to unhelpful or embellished reviews.

That some reviewers do not review every girl they see. I have seen about 150 Kgirls that I never reviewed. Mostly the first 2 years before I started reviewing in AF.  However, quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive as demonstrated by many reviewers with a large numner of reviews.  Why would you think a review can’t be both?

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CDL... Mr. Golddust, from what I've seen repeatedly, knows what he's talking about.  

 
Aside from being an absolute machine I can only envy in terms of identifying rebrands (putting any algorithm I might have to utter shame), he has provided a lot of info to many mongers, and he is a very high-volume one.

Well actually, I guess I am.  If "he knows what he is talking about", then its even worse that he's not being more responsible in the advice he gives . . . . advice that I asked if he has even tried himself, only to get crickets!!!  Anyone who has been in the LA scene for more than fifteen minutes knows you don't see one Kgirl at new org and then ask for a ref to a competing org.  That's just suicide and why so many guys wonder why they don't get a response back, or worse, the booker doesn't answer the ref request from the other booker because after seeing ONE girl, you are not worth the effort when you are already jumping ship.  Not having the ref YOU provided respond leaves you worse off than if you hadn't given it in the first place.  The new booker will assume the ref you gave is not responding because you're trouble.  Good luck after that little fiasco trying to get in.  You need to re-evaluate who you think "knows what he is talking about."

" I also recommend taking a booker recommendation when you're new. "

This is Gold; my experience with this exact thing, get's you their best.  The PO will treat you special next time. And I'm not a noob.  
Assuming the org is on the level, of course.

figure this out.  The girls come and go, but you will be dealing with the booker for the length of your hobby career.  Taking a recommendation shows you are HIS customer, too, not just the customer of your hot "girl du jour."  

 
And your point about continuing to do this is very valid.  Its good for noobs, but also a good ongoing practice for vets to continue to get good service from the booker.  Once I have cleared my schedule with a time slot, If I text for a specific girl, and she's already booked for the time I need, I will ask the booker to give me a couple of other choices.  Then I will tell him to give me 20 minutes to look them up and I'll pick one.  This is not a strict booker recommendation, because I have choices, except for the fact that S/HE'S picking the choices I have.  If they come back with only one choice,  saying she's the only one available at the time I need,  that's a pure booker recommendation, and I will often agree rather than try to switch my schedule around.  I would only pass if its a girl I have already looked up and decided not to see for whatever reason.

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A booker's recommendation when you're new, is going to be a girl who is not popular and likely inferior to others. Because bookers want to maximize profits and most get cuts off each appointment. So they will load balance their girls. You're not getting the best girl you possibly can as a rec from booker. Youll get the girl who gets the least traffic, and usually it's for a reason.  

 

I mean, do it if you want to suck the bookers dick/clit by all means so you'll maybe get better pussy long term. Me, I don't recommend that. I recommend having balls and choosing what you want, not appeasing or impressing the booker with your brown nosing skills.  

 
But thats just me.

the girl who is the least busy that day, but it's still a Kgirl that is going to make you cum, so its not like its a bad deal, unless you're the kind of monger that has to fall in love with the photos before you see her. Many of the eventual legends in LA I first saw as a booker recommendations.  Megan was one of them. I requested someone else, and M told me to try Megan.  I was a regular for several months after that.  Maybe because I'm higher volume I don't think the sky is falling when I get a so-so girl, but its magical when you TOFTT or get a booker ref that turns out to be a home run.  

 
The benefits of this are many-fold, but I've listed them before for you, and you don't seem interested.  This was about new guys getting in.  If you remove taking a booker recommendation off the table, then you are just increasing the time it will take you to 1) be accepted, and 2) get that booker to give you a reference at a competing org.  By not recommending newbies do this, you are virtually guaranteeing them a harder time breaking into the biz as a monger. When you get top tier girls that are fully booked almost everyday, I can say with certainty that customers of the booker will manage to get an appointment over guys who have never taken a booker recommendation.  

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I don't recommend seeing the star of the org as the first appointment in the org either.
After that first one, everything is fair game. I recommend choosing in advance a non-star girl and asking for her if you like the reviews.  I do NOT recommend making it easier on the booker and instead helping out the girl who needs traffic the most.  

 

The rest of your post is basically conforming to initiation process. Up to whoever is new to decide for themselves if it's worth it. To me, never worth it. To others, maybe. I never cared for frats back in college for that very reason.

You will NEVER get to see the star of the org for your first appointment.  Its nice that you are willing to accept a non-star girl, since that's what you will get anyway.  You're like the guy who doesn't get offered a piece of cake and then says, "That's okay, I don't like cake."   I respect that you have your own system, but a lot of the things you suggest are 180 degrees from what works best in most circumstances. I take it that even though you are pro-monger, you don't ever TOFTT.  Many of the booker recs will have no reviews.  You get to set up her profile and be the first reviewer, or at least one of the first.  That's one of the best things you can do for fellow mongers.  

 
So here's the question.  If you are willing to select a second-tier (you call it non-star) girl, then why not let the booker pick her for you and get yourself set up to see the agency star(s) the next time.  In SoCal, most agencies have more than one top-tier girl.  It gets you a few VIP points and with that comes some reciprocity from the booker on getting you in to see the top girls. You should not let your hatred of the agency system deter you from using the proven techniques that have worked for thousands of Kgirl mongers in the past.

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First, I don't know about LA, but I have been able to get an appointment with orgs stars on my first appointment in a few places.  

Even in this very thread,  the rookie sag was getting into the game was able to see the star of the org as the first appointment.

But, I generally don't recommend doing it because they will be booked in most cases.  

 
To answer your question, I believe firmly in customer choice , so I don't want someone else choosing some girl for me. You believe in basically taking a bullet first to suck up to agency, I don't. Since the act of choosing happens after the screening, you're already in. Ask who's available and then see if they fit you.  
It's simple.  

 
Here's my question. I remember you asking why go to girls that I know might not suit my taste. So why are you advocating doing this here?  

For future credit and good standing with the booker? No, I would not make this tradeoff. I understand that some others might... hell, some might go as far as to suck a dick for such credit, but nah not me.

At least based on the comments about Sag's newbie's first experience it sounded like she is an older, approaching retirement age provider who is really only going to compete on performance.

 
I am certain that CDL is referring to the LA girls that are at the top in both performance AND looks.

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I believe we're talking about stars of the org, ie most popular and renowned provider inside a particular org. That would be the provider sag was talking about. The org in question is (or used to be) indeed very performance-oriented, and there's a reason Ive been there tons of times.  

 

Besides, cdl saw her as well not too long ago, according to his reviews. He rated her a 8/9 I believe. And you know cdl, he doesn't see girls below his standards.

Going off his second paragraph I think "star" and "top tier" were meant to indicate status within the whole area, not really just that the one agency.  But, yes, if you limit it to who is at one agency and that top girl there is not the one everyone in the area is trying to book you will likely not have problems book an appointment even as a newbie -- she WILL have openings in her schedule.

 
CDL's 8/9 says she was average in looks. I'm pretty sure that doesn't rate "star" or "top tier" in his world but will let him clarify is he feels the need.

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What is your point exactly? We're discussing choosing the best girl within a single org. Not every single org, I will say not many orgs at all, will have young unicorns that provide both youth and service. I'm fairly confident there is no more than one, if that, kgirl in the whole LA who is in her 20s and can deliver the very gagless DT and have the cg endurance and rhythm of the girl mentioned in this thread.  

 

My convo with cdl, I think we're on the same page more or less, just at the point where we're arguing what the bookers future good favor is worth. What would you do for a Klondike, err, kgirl bar. I wonder how far he'd go to get such favors. Wonder if he'd wear a mask for such favors.  

 
Ie, we're at the  "We have established what you are, madam. We are now merely haggling over the price" part of the old joke.

the you have a high percentage of unsatisfactory and disappointing sessions . . . . and you are doing your own choosing!!!   Do you really thick you would do even worse than your current lousy track record by letting the booker choose for you once in awhile?  Even with girls that don't have any reviews, he has the benefit of the feedback from the mongers who have already seen her. That's MORE info than you have, so maybe you should try some booker recommendations.  You might find that you  have better sessions.  

 
Your question concerning my former question to you ("why go to girls that you know might not suit your taste")  is  a non-sequitur.  My question was in regards to YOU making bad choices in the girls you see.  I'm NOT advocating YOU choosing.  We already know what a disaster that is.  I'm advocating letting the booker choose FOR you.  Maybe you will do better.  

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When Im choosing a girl I already know who I want and who I don't want. Why is this so hard to understand? Why would I go with someone I don't want? This is what I'm asking you. Your answer is for future favors.  

 
You've said it before too, that one has to bite the bullet and go with less than popular girls to establish good standing. Aka going up the ladder by doing the girls THEY want you to do, not who you want to do.  

 
And just so you know, I've asked POs about some girls before I've seen them. The POs told me whatever I wanted to hear as long as I booked the girls. In other words, lies. And yes, did a lot worse if I went with my initial assessments and the limited info I've had.  

 
And tbh, you've told me before the majority of your bad sessions came from toftts. How come your PO buddies didn't sway you away from those?

you don't ever TOFTT.  That's not very pro-monger, IMO.  Your statement that you "know who you want to see" implies that you only see girls who have already been reviewed by someone else who TOFTT to help out their bro's.  

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I rarely do toftts, as most of them end up as disappointments. Sounds familiar? And why am I not surprised that you haven't answered my question?  

 
Here's the thing, I've said it multiple times. My disappointments usually are from lack of skills. I'm a guy who is all about service. Most new girls who aren't rebrand, turn out to have crappy and undeveloped skills.  

 
It's simple, a girl can't suck dick properly, the probability of it being a disappointing session is extremely high.  

 
Now, there could be a situation where I get a report on a girl before she has any reviews on a site, then I will try to spread the word publicly,as I will not be able to write a review myself. PUBLICLY. Something that you seem to have aversion for.

the BA is a higher volume POE for Kgirls than SoCal, but there should still be plenty of girls coming through who went through a salon career and give excellent service.  For me, the biggest annoyance in FOTB girls is substandard English skills, but this is becoming less of a problem lately as more girls learn English before they come here.  So I will accept that SOME of you disappointment may be from where you are located and the quality of girls that come through.  

 
With that said, TOFTT is a way to be pro-monger, even if it turns out to be a disappointment for YOU.  I get just as much satisfaction in writing a review of a girl I CAN'T recommend as for one that I can.  There are a lot of guys here that have smaller hobby budgets and want to avoid risky choices, so if I can steer them off of a girl that might be a waste of their money, I'm happy to do it.  If you are really pro-monger, you should be willing to do the same.

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"I get just as much satisfaction in writing a review of a girl I CAN'T recommend"

Yeah? All 6% of the time? Cool. I do toftt often enough to provide info to others. But these mostly turn out not good, so the more I had the less will I've had to do more toftts.

 
What's interesting is that you recommended me before to limit my toftts to have less failures.  Now you're doing the other thing. How about we stay on topic? Why should I see a girl I know I will not like, just because a PO will recommend her?

you  like to do to everyone despite the fact that me useyrhead , GaG and others have called you out for it. My advice was to take a booker rec on a girl you DO NOT ALREADY KNOW you won't like.  If you have already researched her, then its not a TOFTT situation.  TOFTT is when there are no reviews and no intel.  You're changing to be a girl you already know you won't like.  Its apples and oranges.  Not the same at all.  

 
On the other hand, if you are making decisions based ONLY on photos, which you know are going to be photoshopped to a greater or lesser degree, then that would also account for some of your disappointments.  Even in  younger civvie life, I met hundreds of women that I thought  I would like from their photos who turned out to be a total mismatch for me, so I learned when I was a yute that you can't make decisions purely off of photos.

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I did not misquote you.

This is what you asked : "So here's the question.  If you are willing to select a second-tier (you call it non-star) girl, then why not let the booker pick her for you and get yourself set up to see the agency star(s) the next time. "

 

There was nothing about TofTT in your question. If I ToFTT, I know nothing about the girl...how can I call her second tier or third tier, or anything ? Basically Im at a booker's full mercy. Like I've said, I did this a few times...most of them were not good.

You later asked me why I dont do toftts and I explained.

 
I also never indicated that I only make decisions by the pics. Do you really think I have no other outlets that I can use besides reviews and ads ?

Finally, it'd be nice to see your review of a TofTT that you did not like, as you claimed you like writing such reviews. I did not see many on here. The last few reviews by you that were 7s already had previous reviews. So, hardly a TofTT. TofTT is usually new girls anyway, as word of mouth travels far after a week or two of work.

If you take the booker recommendation, the worst you are likely to get is, to use your words, a "non-star" girl, so IF YOU ARE WILLING TO CHOSE  a non-star girl when YOU are the one doing the picking, then why not just let the booker pick one for you?  THAT is the question.  

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I already answered your question.

 

 
I know and research most gilrs beforehand. I have a pecking order. So why would I let anyone else choose  for me? Im going to look for a non-star, but if I know a non-star X does DT and non-star Y does not, why would I want non-star Y over non-star X?  

 

If I have zero information about the girl, meaning she's new and it's a toftt, I might ask a booker, but in my experience that hasn't led to good things. I don't advise toftts, especially if you're picky on service or looks.  

 
The booker, as you've agreed with me, recommends someone who needs traffic, not someone who'd fit me.  Especially if the first time in the org. Usually someone who needs traffic is the least popular girl in the org, and for a reason.

If it is your first time using an org, how would the booker know who fits you?  C'mon man.  

Also, if you have worked with a booker for awhile, they can most definitely make good recommendations since they know your repeats, your multi hour appts, etc.  I occasionally ask my favorite booker to choose for me if I am curious about multiple and while I can't prove it, I highly doubt I was ever given the slowest girl.  I say this because I have always had a good time and I check reviews of all the girls I was considering to gauge popularity and how ymmv my experience was.

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Hence me saying, "especially if first time"  

 
Again, it's great you had this experience. My experience was the pos would say whatever I wanted to hear to make me schedule.  

 
If you're a newbie, you will have the girl with least traffic offered, unless you're smart and ask lineup and choose yourself from all avialble girls.

Which is what I recommend. My flowchart is the following for an org newbie:

 
First you get screened. Once you're in you ask for a lineup for a day and perhaps hours. You get a list, by that point you should have done all research on all girls. There wil usually only be one or two, if any, that might be new and no reviews/info, complete toftts.  

Don't go for the toftt. Rank the ones you research, and choose the highest one on your list. If the po offers you only toftts, kindly decline and wait until the toftts are out of the bag. Then repeat the process.

You should let the booker choose because you have admitted repeatedly that you have a high percentage of disappointing sessions doing YOUR OWN RESEARCH, so that may be the problem.  I'm just suggesting letting the booker assign you a girl that you don't know about and have not researched.  If its a good session, maybe it shows you are doing your research  wrong.  You should consider some changes in you approach the Kgirl hobby.  You can't keep doing it the same way and hope to have different results.  Your results suck, so start tweaking your system until it gets better.  I'm saying booker recs may be  at least part of the answer.

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And I told you I let the bookers make recs on toftts, and they were overwhelmingly not good experiences.
Much wore than my own picks

 
I'm not sure what part of that you don't understand. I repeated it several times already. Hence why I also advise newbies to also not do toftts or take booker orgs.

If you gave them enough chances to be able to reliably identify the trend that their recommendations were that much worse than yours then it seems your experience is at odds with that of many others.  

 
Well, somebody has to get all the bad booker recommendations that others aren’t getting, I guess. So, maybe we should all be thanking you for taking all the bad flips of the booker recommendations coin for us.

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Not sure if I understand your post, but OK. I'll take a rare thanks from you when I can get it ;)  

 
We are all speaking from our experience. My experience doesn't match yours. Doesn't make it any worse or better. Just different.

 

I also tried explaining, many times, that my "success" depend on service quality. I merely was answering why I don't like taking booker recs. I also have few reasons, I've seen bookers lie to some fellow mongers... there's one guy who literally walks if the tits are man-made. The PO knows this and still gives him recs of girls with manmades. When he texts wtf to the PO, the latter just shrugs and says that's what the girl had told me.....thats a monger who is a regular too.  

 

And as far as newbies getting an inferior offering if they don't voice what they want as a rec-its a logical conclusion. It's not even exclusive to kgirls or bookers. Same thing happens in law firms, joint doctor practices and so on. The person with less clientele, and usually thus less popular and usually inferior, will be given to you. It all depends on how you view kgirl offerings. If youre happy with 98% of any kgirl offerings, you'll likely be happy with whatever is offers to you. If you're picky, you won't. Many newbies think that beggars can't be choosers, but they can. As long as they don't go for the most popular girl of the org on the first appointment. That's just my experience. Your experience was different, great.

I want to break him in, make him climb the ladder. I don't do personal recs for the obvious reasons one might cite, ESPECIALLY to drinking buddies! No, he wants in he goes the usual route. I feel like such a frat boy but it's fun.  I wanted to send  him to Tina at Nikki in SF but that ship has sailed, so I just need somewhere to send him to get a couple of referrals so I can send him to Kira and imagine him coming out in a body bag. He talks a long game but he's 61.

Who would you make him go see?

sag

If you don't even know this person well enough to give a recommendation and you want to have him experience climbing the ladder, why not just tell him to join TER introduce himself like everyone else does and work from there?

 
Moreover, is this guy not in the BA with you? If he is, don't YOU know the various agencies and what their screening policies are?

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This is my speculation, but I think many mongers aren't comfortable to give vouches for buddies, not knowing how they behave. It would be awkward if you give a vouch for a guy who then gets BLd from the org and stains your rep in the process.

 
And on the flip side, you probably don't want to fuck up your buddy's rep. I had people privately tell me they could vouch for me to orgs I did not have access, and I've declined all of them. Aside from connecting online persona to monger personsa, I just don't feel comfortable potentially causing another monger to take blame for my actions. I may shit on an org and then the org will ask this buddy why did you bring that guy in? I try very hard to not have to hold anyone responsible for roads I take aside from myself.

 
With that said, I think mentioning orgs that don't screen publicly is not a good look. Mostly because they read these and if they think they have that rep, they will then institute more screening. Sag, I will pm you.

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Back in those days it was easier for a K-Girl to gain membership in an all White, all Male country club than it was to for an unknown to break into the So Cal K-Girl scene, but a certain TER moderator vouched for me and that's all it took. I was in.

 
I do agree that naming Agencies that are light on screening is a horrible idea, it's not like LE doesn't read these pages too. Lets at least make them work a bit instead of just handing them the lowhanging fruit.

about 10 guys in 12 years.  They have to have a PM history with me that spans a couple of years, an active Kgirl board presence, and a certain number of reviews with sufficient detail that I know the reviews are not fake. There are another 6 or so that I WOULD vouch for based on these criteria who have never asked me.  

 
Conversely, the only people I have asked for a vouch are the Kgirls I know.  I collect phone numbers on touring girls and when they go to a different agency, I text them to tell the booker my number and to accept the appointment.  I have used this method in the Pacific Northwest and most major East Coast and MIdwest cities that have Kgirl orgs. Once you see the girl you know, you are good with the booker to see anyone else on his/her roster.

I’ve been with some of these orgs through name changes! So much so that I have no clue which offer inroads because I can call any of them and get in

I do not think it’s a good idea for me to text and say so and so is going to call and I vouch for them.  

I also think I would be fried if he fucked up in any way. Been at this too long to have that happen.  

The ONLY comm I have with orgs is to book. No complaining, no telling them I’m gonna write a review, nothing. This is a new policy of mine over about the past year, pre-COVID but that hasn’t helped and I feel necessitates further restriction of extraneous comm.

So yeah, I would not have guessed that the orgs I got in PMs would take newbies.

Sag

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Just so we're on the same page, it's always ymmv. Sometimes even the newb friendly org will ask to produce references. Or at less so I've heard from others. Good luck to your buddy!

Dude, I am the same.  

 
I’m not sure people think this through all the way. Who would they really trust with the knowledge that they do something that could ruin their lives if the wrong person found out?  

 
Then again, I make it clear that I trust very few people. It takes me a long time to get to a point where I trust anyone.

Just do a couple Corgs, I know you said he dosnt want corgs, but if you want to get in the Korgs, gotta put in some work at least. Do some indies or even ask for the girls that could use some work at peach cafe.

Thanks, bro! He got a shitshow dose of Yuna  today. He booked for a  2 hour session! And he's still  alive!

sag

omg, is she his first Kgirl experience? lol.  Its like you went straight to the smack instead of starting him with weed.

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That's what I said as well. Lol. Starting with Yuna is crazy lmao

He’s done now. One Yuna level dose of kgirl and there’s no going back.

Brother Sag,  

It sounds like you don't want to mentor your 'drinking buddy'?  It sounds like he's more of an acquaintance than a friend?

 

 
Getting in to the Club requires being a smooth criminal.  I know you are.  Is he game?

 

 
If he's sessioned with 🐰 kgirls org, he's well on his way to many orgs, especially sister affiliates, but I don't know if he'll pass the gate with Viola's booker and Candy Land's booker.  Dunno...

 

 
Perhaps his next session should be with Gigi?  A good word from her will prolly go a long way...

 

I personally started with my long time TW org and booker got me in to Wonderland.

 

YMMV

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Ha ha! Hi TwoOn!

What am I gonna do?

I  sent him to school. A mutual friend reminded me that KGA was accepting applications for well behaved mongers. He saw Yuna for his first. Some mongers  thought he might  die. He's 61. So how did that go? Well, he saw Yuna WITH KAT yesterday. So, maybe he's on his way down the rabbit hole? He certainly seems to know what the fuck he's doing. He's  being groomed toward Kira at BG next. I was taking him down the road to Candyland, but lately I'm just not  impressed  with anything on their line up (That's my stealth truth bomb for the week Guard your wallets, boys). So I'm staying on as mentor until he has KGA and BG in his quiver and then he'll be fine.

Thanks for asking!

I know it's not Shill Friday but there's new talent at EBKbeauties who I think matches up with # 320775; Eunice from So Cal with good scores.

 
I'm thinking of TOFTT soon.

 
YMMV

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2on, it's a bit hard to shill BEFORE you see the girl I think.

 
I suspect others will appreciate the effort even if she turns out to be the same as 320775 as those are really old reviews.

What's a good score  for you??

Eunice has one 9/9 review, first and likely shill, and two with 6's and 7's, from 2017. And she's going to EBK.

Have you been smoking something?

sag

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Oops, wrong topic. Meant to reply in the other one.

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Brother Sag,

 

 
I'm prolly not gonna have my next session with EBKbeauties.  I'll prolly make my way back to LSC...

 

 
YMMV

In a newbie thread, my highly esteemed monger brother mrfisher, referred to us as cult members and I for one upon thoughtful consideration agree.

 
Here is the Google definition of cult --) a devotion directed towards people or objects.  Has a sinister connotation.

 

I know I'm devoted singularly towards sessioning with kgirls exclusively.  I'm even known to be ensnared by a vampire kgirl.

 

Welcome to the kgirl cult, my monger brothers!!!!!

 

Ha ha ha ha ha

 

YMMV

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when I'm traveling to other cities, Its often more convenient to see girls who will outcall to my hotel room, so I tend to go indie in cities I'm not that familiar with.  Vegas is one that will serve up a Kgirl to your room, but there are none others that I have encountered lately.  However, there are plenty of indie providers who are Asian, so I can't still get something close to what I prefer, but its a few bucks more, which I don't mind.  

 
As far a being in the cult, I wouldn't consider seeing an indie 15 times a year on average as disqualifying me from the cult.  As an analogy, I think someone in a religious cult can do something devilish once in awhile and it doesn't take away from their cultist standing.  Lol

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