Now Correct me if im wrong guys lately i have seen the photoshop of alot of the Kgirl pics come to an outrageous level at least make it look like the girl dont enhanced her boobs 4 sizes to a D or DD and then wehn the door opens its a freaking A cup dont add a booty so when the door opens i get flat as an iron board then you add the reviews that are over hyped and overated i can know the argument that service is YMMV but on the looks part come on guys and to top it off then you have the some bookers getting pist off because you write an honest review i thought ter was for honest reviews and lately i seen to many girls that the pics dont match up
what is going on !!!!!!
...shocked to find that someone has anything bad to say about K-girls! Heavens to Murgatroyd, I think I'm getting a case of the vapors! I better get my smelling salts.
RVLovesplashbrother? Lolololol. To me its 50-50. Some girls are photoshopped up the ass while others actually look way better than their ad pictures. Its a hit and miss type of deal. That's why the whole TOFTT thing exists. Gotta rely on intel bro.
...be accurate. You're not supposed to have to PM a guy to ask if all her stats are accurate because he was too chickenshit to describe her accurately for fear of offending the booker.
I have friends in the hobby that recommend girls and tell me of ones I should stay the hell away from. You are right though, reviews should be right on the money, but we all know that's not always the case.
...is with the K-fanboys who are pussies because they're afraid of offending the bookers by describing the K-girls accurately or writing an honest review. If they are honest, they run the risk of getting blacklisted so they fuck their K-bros and post BS reviews. The only way you can find out the truth is through backchannel, which defeats the purpose of TER.
The K-fanboys have eyes to see and evaluate the K-girls but rarely do they deviate from the physical descriptions in the K-girl ads. Oh, every once in a while you'll hear someone grumble that the K-girls are usually 5-10 years older than it says in the ads and profiles but the gutless K-fanboys would never dare to put the age they obviously see because they are deathly afraid of offending the bookers.
Someone once yelled out to Harry Truman: "Give 'em Hell, Harry!!" Truman replied: "I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell." Same with me - I just tell the truth and K-fanboys think it's "negative." Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
The silent majority isn't internet savvy and calculated mongers, they are just in the mood and looking for a piece of meat for stress release. The LA market currently is in a miserable spot, and both the supply and demand are partially at fault.
The business is booming in Japan right now, top tier kgirl can make more money working in Japan than US thanks to a strong JPY. Even when comparing LA to SF, the bay area has a much healthier working environment coupled with a lower starting price for hobbyists. At the same time, everything that's off the menu in LA is open bar in SF; some agencies even started to adapt the Japanese business model with time extensions.
On the other hand, we got the President of the BBFS Club of Southern California -- first the blade, sound the horn -- the Legion soon follow and trampling through the s̶h̶i̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ unsuspecting kgirl tokyo-hot style. Well I'm glad all of us got our three minutes of thrill, now onto the next one.
Honestly I don't expect much since the departure of the 90-day wonders from the '16 spring collection in LA, it's going to be a long and dry summer.
Hello Pris,
You're write as if you are very knowledgeable about the various business models. I am not so with that being said I will not dispute any of your comments with the exception of the strong Japanese Yen. Abenomics has been very successful in weakening the Yen relative to the USD which is considered the universal monetary currency. Currently the USD is as strong as its been in a long time. With that said, dollar/yen value cannot be the reason. Try again.
NEVER give my TER handle to a provider or booker. Its impossible to black list me because they don't know who CDL is in real life. That way, I can write honest reviews without any fear of blowback from a provider or a booker. It took me years to get in with a few of the holdout bookers, but now that I'm in with everyone, it was totally worth the frustration along the way,
so maybe there's some "blowback" worthy words in there somewhere, but based on your numbers, I tend to doubt that.
I don't understand this. They have no memory of your visit and can't correlate your review name with the booked name?
Ha ha, possibly. My posts don't rise to the Gettysburg Address, who will little note, nor long remember, even by me.
until a week or more after the session. In Kgirl-land, that's 40-50 customers ago, so doubtful they would remember me. The lower-volume the girl is, the longer I take to post the review. Some indies I have seen that are very low-volume I have never reviewed, because they might figure out which guy I was.
Second, I make my reviews about the girls, and not me. I do not include anything about myself that would allow someone to connect me to the session other than mostly being a satisfied customer, but so is just about everyone else. I had one girl in eight years ID me from my review over on AF before they closed because I described a specific technique that was unique to me and she matched it up. She has been sworn to silence, so I still see her once in awhile.
Third, whenever a booker or provider asks me for a review, I say I don't do them, and they don't ask again.
...Yubitsume? Oh, sorry, that's what my buddies in the Yakuza do. ![]()
gag her . . . . oh wait, she likes that so its not punishment.
Ah. In my naivete I thought there was some implied requirement in TER reviews that you actually had to have visited the provider. This means that TER reviews can be complete fiction (other than it must point to a provider website) as your action precludes the provider from verifying the visit one way or the other.
Second, I make my reviews about the girls, and not me. I do not include anything about myself that would allow someone to connect me to the session other than mostly being a satisfied customer, but so is just about everyone else. I had one girl in eight years ID me from my review over on AF before they closed because I described a specific technique that was unique to me and she matched it up. She has been sworn to silence, so I still see her once in awhile.
Third, whenever a booker or provider asks me for a review, I say I don't do them, and they don't ask again.
I always include something about the provider or the location so that my fellow hobbyists will know I was there and it is not a fake review. As an example, in my last review, I talked about a shower head that had a light in it. How would I know that unless I was there? I also often mention whether a room had hooks for your clothes or whether the provider folded them and set them on a chair, dresser, night stand, etc. If the girl has tattoos, I will give the location. I will often give a detailed and accurate description of her physical appearance. I have even mentioned crooked teeth, and other things that are not in the profile. Using these identifiers assures those that are considering seeing a girl that MY review is legit, and I was really there at the location. The reason for all of this is to help fellow hobbyists know what to expect when they see a girl I have reviewed and that my review is not under intimidation from a booker or provider for fear of BL. Its not about me taking the easy way to get screened by a booker by just giving my TER handle. I have ref's so I don't need to disclose my handle to a provider or booker.
On the other hand, if you're just making a general observation about the possibility of fake reviews from other members who also don't give their TER handle to bookers or providers, then you may have a point if they don't go into the same detail I do.
I would never suggest a particular review was fake if I didn't have first hand knowledge as such. I am saying that TER reviews could be fake. I didn't realize before there is no method to verify the encounter ever took place.
many are fake. There are many members here that are known to post fake reviews. The devil is usually in the details. Unfortunately, reporting them is often "he said, she said" for TER. A review went up recently for one of my regulars that said she had a massage table. I have seen her at least twice a month for over a year, and she has never had a massage table at her incall. I reported it as fake based on this erroneous detail, but there is no way for me to prove it, so the review remains even though anyone that knows the girl knows its fake.
Some fake reviewers are promoting new girls and working with bookers and orgs, and others are just trying to scam TER for some free VIP time. It seldom has anything to do with anonymity for the reviewer. After awhile, you will learn the names of the handles that are reliable and the ones that traffic in fake reviews, and should be disregarded when doing your due diligence on new girls.
No wonder the first kgirl I saw, her booker no longer responds to me.
I made the mistake of telling the booker my TER username.
The K-fanboys have eyes to see and evaluate the K-girls but rarely do they deviate from the physical descriptions in the K-girl ads. Oh, every once in a while you'll hear someone grumble that the K-girls are usually 5-10 years older than it says in the ads and profiles but the gutless K-fanboys would never dare to put the age they obviously see because they are deathly afraid of offending the bookers.
Someone once yelled out to Harry Truman: "Give 'em Hell, Harry!!" Truman replied: "I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell." Same with me - I just tell the truth and K-fanboys think it's "negative." Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
It’s wide spread, not just limited to Kgirls. I still remember the hilarious case on the LA forum when a provider bragged about her experiences in the 1980s, until some guy asked, “did you start providing at age 2?” She quickly took down that post.
I still remember the good ole days of pleasant surprises behind the door when I saw Amber, Lita, and Halle.
This is an example of how Mr. Fox's true color of F & B is revealed. When there are practices wide spread throughout the business, he'd love to make it sound like only the Kgirls do it
Yikes, who are these K-fanboys pussies? How many does he know? I don’t understand how people can give such generalization? I can relate my own experiences plus some shared by others on 2 Kgirl blogs. Most of us do not disclose our handles. Most bookers never asked for it. I was only asked once by a booker, and I gave an alias. But I’ll plead guilty to some overall leniency, not just on Kgirls but to all providers. Usually I was excited shortly after the encounters and gave enthusiastic leniency. I did see a few so-so (not duds), a white, a Cgirl, Kgirl and a Jgirl. In those cases I procrastinated and eventually didn’t bother to write any reviews. There was no deliberate bias for the Kgirls. In fact, all things being equal, I'd prefer a Cgirl for ethnic rapport.
I think review inflation is no different among all races. If you look at the Top 100 for all cities, you don’t find a single Kgirl on the list. If you limit to LA, you find some starting with Chloe at 53. So any suspected grade inflation is all over the map. I saw a couple whites among top 50s. They’re nowhere compared to my top Kgirls
A PO getting upset and blacklisting you if you say in a review
A) Her tits are not that big, pics look like DD but she's actually an B, or just, "Smaller then advertised"
B) Ass is flat compared to pics, or, "Not as much cushine for the pushing as portrayed.
C) Face is PS'd quite a bit
But, if you say
A) God Dammit, WTF, her the pics portrayed her as a DD but she's only a F@#KING A
B) What the hell, I wanted to slam a big ass but she's flat as hell
C) Can you say butterface, Damn that's some serious PS
you deserve to be Blacklisted
They PS the face to hide identity, and PS the body to entice, but most are fairly representative though and their measurements are usually pretty spot on if you bother to look past the pics.
Fake pics and photoshop are rampant and not exclusive to K-girl ads. Professional photography is on ad sites for a reason...it works. If this is such a big deal why don't you spend time with ladies that only post selfies?
If you can't trust all the reviewers on TER then pick specific reviewers that you trust. It's pretty obvious when a girl receives 1 or 2 reviews that are significantly higher or lower than the rest of the reviews.
If you really want to see some unbelievable numbers, go to TER's top ten reviewed gals. For the most part nothing but 10/10's. Also, the faces are blurred, and the listed physical stats rarely suggest a gal that's thin or petite. In addition, some of these gals still get 10's in performance even though their profiles list a CBJ and/or no CIM. It does make one wonder.
a noticable relationship between high rates and high scores among providers. Many reviewers want to believe that if they are paying $500+ an hour, they are seeing a girl who is a 10/10 regardless of what the reality of the experience was like for them. When you ask them about it in a PM, they admit the experience was not as good as some of the Kgirls who average 8.5/8.5. I think the reason for this is nobody likes to be thought a fool when it comes to getting value for their money, so they automatically lower the bar for looks and performance as the hourly rate increases.
Hmmm, the implication of the pay a lot self-deception is that the reviews are in fact honest if not consistent with others' reality. But that's all just saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
There are lots of reasons why photoshopping will occur and not all of it bad. These are posted to the internet and therefore recorded and a permanent member of the public domain -- it's not like many of these sites required special credentials to access the site or even use https to encrypt the transmission. Accurate pictures could come back to haunt the girls fairly quickly. I'm also sure that more than some is done for purely promotional/sales reasons.
The bottom line, as someone already pointed out: Use an add as a starting point but check reviews by those of girls you've seen. Did you experience match reasonable well with that reviewers report? If yes now you have somewhere to get a good recommendation. If not you know to stay away.
If someone is not willing to make even that limited amount of effort I'm not losing any sleep of their whining about bad reviews or photoshopped pictured. I would be sympathetic to cases where the ad claims 5' 2", 105 lbs and 24 yo and the door opens to reveal a 35-40 yo who is 5' 6" and 160 lbs but that's a little bit different.
between the ad hype and reality with Kgirls is to add 10 years, add 10 pounds, and if it says 5-6 or taller, to expect she might be two or three inches taller than that, and if so, weight will increase proportional to added height. Expecting these adjustments in my mind before I book, I am rarely surprised by what is behind the door.
I'm not quite so formulistic but always try to set my expectations to one of "similar" to the picture but not necessarily same as the picture. Generally the hight is reasonably close from my experience (a very few exceptions), cup and weight not quite as good but then I expect some "puffing" (to use the advertising term) there.
Additionally I tend to try to find a few things I like about the girl rather than focus on negatives. Makes for a more pleasant experience -- wish I was better at doing that in general but maybe the payoff is better in the hobby so worth the extra effort ![]()
The ad had her height at 5-4 and she was actually 5-10. Even though it wasn't what I expected, it was one of the best experiences I had last month and I repeated a few days later. If I was short, I might have been overwhelmed a little, but I'm not, so it was all good even though not as advertised.
I also heard of the so called herds mindset. When you see someone consistently in the 10/10 range, you may have self doubt about giving her a 7/7. "Could it be something wrong with me?"
If I had written reviews for the list of girls I mentioned, I'd have given Sexy Lohan the lowest, but I might have hesitated due to such self doubt.