Look at the URL for Jiyu in her TER profile:  Ad Website........http://mykupcake.com/home?product_id=481
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/jiyu-7025776004-359391

 
How about the agency that doesn't give a K-girl a name.  They merely give her a number until she's "worthy" of a name.
Sounds like a "product" to me:

 
New Girl 100
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/new-girl-100-6287776959-359020

 
New Girl 99
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/new-girl-99-6287774224-357866

 
TWO New Girls, BOTH with the number 97:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/new-girl-97-6287776959-355443
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/new-girl-97-6287774224-354768

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Did? What are you trying to write there?

Perhaps we all need to be more woke? The number system is demeaning? My experience up North was that Peach cafe has always used numbers for a lot of the girls. Too many C chicks mixed in with K girls. Too much bait and switch.

Yet that's how orgs themselves refer to K-girls.

 
Is there anything more dehumanizing than giving a K-girl a number rather than a name?  "Oh, we're not going to give this new product a name until we're sure it's gonna sell."

 
You know how WD-40 got its name?  They were working on a formula for a Water Displacement spray.  The first 39 formulas didn't work but the 40th was a success.  Instead of coming up with a name for the product, they just kept the name of the formula: WD-40.

People are more up in arms because it is me who called a service that is sold a product.

 
I already explained that I don't treat women like objects. Yes, I am paying for sex to have fun sex. Not denying that. I am not paying for someone's time or any other euphemism. That doesn't mean I don't treat them like human beings. This mean I evaluate their service and job just liked I'd evaluate a workers job or a students work. It is entirely merit-based. And while I'm truthful about looks, I am not a hard grader on looks. Not like some here who claim they never fuck a fat girl. I've had some amazing sex with fat girls before. Not whales, but beyond curvy girls.  

 

Literally the template of many orgs have "product" in their urls. Because they're using templates that are made for... wait for it...selling products!

http://ktownescort.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=419

 
You do need a password to access this one, but this link leads to "Pocket girl" at KTE agency in LA

I see three words "product" in the url. And the girl is named "pocket girl"... but it is a monger in the wrong of God forbid he calls service he buys a product.

I don't find the point that compelling for two reasons.

1) the specific example of have product (product_id) in the URL might not even be something the agency has any control over. They most likely are just using a generic e-commerce software package that might even be provided by the hosting company and not something they even chose or could change. Attributing that to the agency is a bit weak.

2) I'm not sure just using numbers in the name is the same but would accept there could be a case to me made. But so what? Is you claim that because someone else is acting poorly that is an excuse for you or others here to do so? The "someone else started it" or "everyone else does it" are always very poor justifications for one's own choices.

This, in my opinion, is not about terminology. It’s about behavior.

 
I have never, as in not ever, met anyone who talks about a person or a group of people as object/product/etc be able to hide their bigoted thinking for more than just a very few minutes. Within moments everyone knows. I’ve worked in nearly half of the states in the US and in close to a couple of dozen countries. I’ve met, worked with and gotten to know a lot of people.

 
Is it possible that there are psychopaths out there who are so good at masking their thoughts and feelings that they are the exceptions. But they are rare.

 
So I will guarantee that the kgirls that a bigot sees know that he’s a bigot. And it will affect how they treat said bigot. Just like the bigot can’t hide his disdain. The kgirls will modify their behavior in what will generally be subtle ways to protect themselves from someone who clearly thinks of them as a lower class of human being.  

 
Of course, bigots rarely if ever openly admit to thinking of anyone as a lower class of human being. They have all sorts of rationalizations for their behavior. We’ve seen some of those rationalization from the trolls on this forum

 
But, as I said above, they can’t hide it no matter how many rationalizations they fabricate. They’ll get blacklisted for reasons that don’t make sense to them. And/or they’ll have a lower success rate with girls than others. Or they’ll just entirely avoid seeing those girls they deem lower class. It will show up one way or another.

 
Again, it’s not about the language. It’s about what the language reveals about how a person treats others.  

 
But, please, let’s not get this confused with the misguided SJW pursuit of political correctness. As far as I’ve seen, that is largely a sham. It’s become code that SJWs use so they can recognize others of their kind by the terminology they use. We’re not talking about using some recently developed pronouns or acronyms. The awareness of the difference between calling a person something other than a person/woman/girl and calling them product/thing/it has been well understood since before most of us were born.

1) I'd like to point out useyrhead claims to be ignoring "trolls" yet somehow talks about the posts they make all the time.  

 

So he is either lying about ignoring the posts as he still reads the posts or is talking about their content without actually have read them,which is probably one of the funniest things I've heard on this board. Imagine replying to something you haven't read.  

 

2) "sjws" have nothing to do with this topic

 

3) the concept again should be clear and this is indeed just clinging to words.

We buy service because sex is a service. Service is a product. Bad service =bad product.  

 
I don't get what is so fucking hard to understand here.  

I hire movers for manual labor. They drop my furniture or scratch it. I think its bad service and bad product. They may be great guys who may marry my sister. But they're shitty movers and bad product as service and I wont recommend them to anyone. As a product, they're fucking garbage. They may be amazing guys in personal life. As people. Same with working girls. Same with cmts. Same with doctors. Can be amazing people but shitty products. Nowhere do I ever think of them of lower human beings. All human beings are equal. There are no Ubermensch.  

 

Is this really so hard to fucking get? When you sell something, the thing you sell is a product. A good. Service is a product. Sex is a product.  

 
This prolonged discussion about semantics is pretty dumb. Once again, it's the issue of the messenger, not the message. I don't see useyrhead or cdl telling GaG he's a misogynist for agreeing with me about product or using the word cunt towards women. They just don't like what I write, so every time they think they have a spot to attack, they do it.

 

There is one much less likely possibility that these dudes are so on the other side of the spectrum of white knighting that they see as anyone saying anything that remotely touches kgirls as an attack at their hobby.

I do agree that the word choice people make does reflect their thinking and attitudes. That's the main problem with the application of the word -- and probably why some don't see a problem with it.

 
But I also think there is a huge equivocation made when attempting to claim service is product. The link offered to suggest service is a product is nothing more that a bunch of silicon valley marketing hype to present what already is as some new innovation. It's pure advertising BS and hardly any different from the behavior of the bad orgs that some have claimed are ubiquitous here. Makes me think of pots and kettles.

Completely agree.

 
As to the link you mentioned, as well as any other content in posts from the trolls I have on Ignore, I have to apologize for not responding directly, I can’t see it. I can only respond to the replies of others. And I prefer it that way.  It’s much more interesting to have a conversation with people who  read and respond to actual post content rather than a strawman they have constructed so they can iterate again on the same old rant I saw so many times before I finally decided they had earned a place on my Ignore list. These particular trolls are so well known for repeating the same messages and using the same tactics over and over it doesn’t take much in the way of reading comprehension skill to figure out what they’re saying - for the 100th time. Yeah, I know. It’s probably well over 100.

 
They’ve been trying to convince us that their individual views are the only correct view ever since they showed up here. The responses and the occasional subject header I’ve seen lately shows no signs of a change in their messaging.

 
All that said, at this point I think anyone with an open mind and reasonably good reading comprehension can see through all the spurious troll messaging. Unless you see something I don’t (entirely possible) there really doesn’t seem to be anything that needs to be explained further.

 
The other day I took a quick break because I hand some down time. So I went and saw a C-girl that was easy to book. I was reminded yet again of the extremely wide variability in C-girl service. Though there is certainly a lot of variety with Kgirls. It seems to me that overall quality of service tends to be significantly higher with kgirls than it is with c-girls here in the Bay Area. At least in my experience. I wonder how many others find this to be true for them.

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Anything that is bought and sold (besides maybe stock) is by definition, a product or a good.

 
Service is a product and always was a product. Be it doctor service, fitness coach service, cmt service, plumbing service, janitorial service or sexual service.

Such services are bought and sold all the time. What is the problem here?

for k-girl “product” connections, shows his work with a list of links, but fails to show us where “people went crazy”.  

Not that I’m ever expecting a BigP post to make sense, but if he’s going to fill up his post with a list of useless list of links, one would somehow hope that at least one of those links provided the context, or maybe better said, a clue as to what the fuck he was actually posting about.

So I know this booker and asked about the "product" moniker.  When they first set up the website, they used a fill-in-the-blanks templet and it already had the word, "product" in it.  They never tried to change it because it goes to the right girl and they didn't want to risk screwing it up.  

 
The "numbered girls" are in the BA and several of the prior responses from BA mongers have already addressed that.  I will just add that having numbers makes it easier than giving three or four girls the same name, which in this case would be  . . . . "Flabby."  Lol