Huh? Wrong?
What you said doesn't conflict with what I said at all. The girls you talked about are examples of girls whoactually built their name/brand and are successful because they're good at what they do.
And then there are those who tour and get new names and are marketed as "new" even though they've been around the US with orherr names.
And no, not ANY girl can do it. You can't build a great brand if you have mediocre reviews, even if you resort to shills writing some positive reviews.
Happy Together is reopening and featuring “New Jini”. Didn’t find her on TER but her photos sure look familiar. Any ideas?
"New Diva", so I wonder what is different about these girls that makes them "new?"
In this case the agency had a provider that always used the name Diva before so they want to make sure no one is confused in thinking the new girl is the same as the one everyone already knows. You will also often see those who have never been in the area before listed as "new".
in SoCal, but the only thing "new" about the girl was her name that was borrowed from another girl. They are almost always rebrands. After much blowback, they are now putting a number after the name if it's a NEW girl with a recycled name, like Peach 2. It can be confusing when both the name and the girl are recycled.
There is an oft-used marketing device called "phantom recognition" where businesses will use a name that sounds like a well-known name so that the consumers will think they have heard it before. However, adding "new" or a number completely negates this concept, so not sure what the value is in recycling names and then telling customers its someone new and different. Why not just pick a new name and build the new brand up with a unique name?
"Why not just pick a new name and build the new brand up with a unique name?"
You don't know the answer to this? For every kgirl who can build a name and brand by being consistent, there are two who switch their org every month or two and get new names and tour the country. Taking advantage of people who don't have access to private networks or time for research of rebrands.
There are many girls who have used only one name their entire career. An Example . . . . LA Sera . . . . Three years in LA, three years in the BA and now three more years in LA, all under the same name. Many legends who are retired now used only one name. Suri, Sexy Lohan, Love Kim, Quinn, etc. And there are the ones still working . . . . Cari, Cami, Mio, White, Heri, Bella, to name a few. Do a search of Kgirls with over 100 reviews. They don't get to 100 by changing their name every time they change locations. ANY girl can do this IF SHE WANTS TO, and that's usually what separates the top tier from the second and third tiers.
Huh? Wrong?
What you said doesn't conflict with what I said at all.
The girls you talked about are examples of girls who
actually built their name/brand and are successful because they're good at what they do.
And then there are those who tour and get new names and are marketed as "new" even though they've been around the US with orherr names.
And no, not ANY girl can do it. You can't build a great brand if you have mediocre reviews, even if you resort to shills writing some positive reviews.
if you give 110% effort with every customer. Like I said,, "ANY GIRL CAN DO IT" and if they don't, it's their choice to not give their best effort all the time. The reviews flow from the session experience, not the other way around as you suggest, and each girl controls what kind of session she gives.
Some of these top-tier girls started out with another name, at a time when they were newbies and were still putting their skill set together. Once they got to the top of their game, they changed names ONE time and have built their brand on that name for years.
You can give 110% effort at playing football and still not be an NFL player.
You can give 110% effort at nuclear science and still not be a world class scientist
You can give 110% as a porn star and still have only 100k views total on p0rnhub
verbage to try to salvage your point that's where you lose me and most of the others here. Your examples are not analogous. Show me a football player or nuclear scientist that was able to learn his/her trade on their own, or a porn star who's looks appeals to everyone. Most understand my point, that effort is the most important thing in making every session memorable for every customer, and the good reviews will flow naturally from it, based on my own considerable experience. Carry on by yourself if you want to. Since you went into the weeds, I have lost interest in this exchange.
You know exactly what I'm saying. You're just pretending not to.
Some girls are simply not good enough.
Let me repeat it again, some kgirls - just like any other escort types- are simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH for majority of mongers. And that isn't going to change with any amount of effort.
You yourself have said that some girls are fat to you and no matter the service, you wouldnt like them. No amount of effort won't save them in your eyes.
Just like generally, many people are not good enough at their job or the job they aspire tp and it has nothing to do with effort. Sure some aspects could be fixed with plastic surgery, fake boob and so forth. Some could not ever be.
So again, some girls are simply not good enough. If you can't admit that, you know what I'm gonna call you. Many of these girls have to resort to deception and rebranding to make their money because they can't make nearly as much money without deception.
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+1
I don't all things K-girl, but I do know that Suri went by Nicole before she started using Suri.
Given the question was about a DMV agency you probably should not make observations based on you BA experience. We have pretty much nothing but touring girls at these agencies -- yes, many repeat on something of a regular schedule -- but in the VAST majority of cases the names remain the same here. Many will also go by the same name in other EC location. Sometimes they will have different names but that get shared and typically it has nothing to do with trying to fool or mislead customers in the city (since they generally keep the local name the same for each city).
So cdl can make his comments based on his LA experience... (which btw I was replying to, not your comment about Nova) ... but I can't make comments based on my Bay Area experience?
I don't know why I'm even surprised about these egregious double standards anymore.
He noted what does occur in LA and then asked the question about why the reuse of names was needed. Given that was in response to me one would normally assume it was a question about why in the DMV an old name was used for a new to the area (rather than some attempt to ride the coat tails of some prior name) rather than just making up some new name.
You can (and always do) note your view from the BA and then, as CDL did, ask if that seems to fit here as well. You didn't do that. You made a general claim from your BA perspective with the clear intention of suggesting it is both universal and frequent. Implying that it applies and explains what this area is like.
He mentioned peach2 (who is in LA) and then asked
"However, adding "new" or a number completely negates this concept, so not sure what the value is in recycling names and then telling customers its someone new and different. Why not just pick a new name and build the new brand up with a unique name?"
And I responded to his question. The question was not about NoVa. It's a general question. Sure I can add the quantifier "in california" if you'd like.
Short stints.
This site sometimes doesn't play nice with way back machine links but I'll try anyway
http://web.archive.org/web/20220201092740/https://sweetangels.ch/nancy
Edit:it worked!
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There you go Rocket, findin' them Kgirls!
https://www.classyphilly.com/narsha
Maybe the same person, but using the same pics. I would also guess that she was in Atlanta too. Just a guess.
Jini is not the girl in the photos. 30 to mid 30s attractive all natural milf. Has a bit of a snaggle tooth. Good standard service. LFK and DFK to start. blue toast no preview bbbj but make out session in shower, go figure. No preview bbbj. Start off with light rimming, then front kitty session. Then cowgirl, mish, doggy, then finish mish.
Good service meh looks, won't repeat. Price tag is up at 350 for the hour.
Age wise, “New Jini” sounds like a review similar to Narsha (same pics) at EPhilly.
I really think that “New Diva” is the same Diva (7 pages of reviews) that’s been using Atlanta as a home base for the past few years.
actual person is were BS and really just whose pics were being used. LOL
Huh? What actual person? Like her real identity?
I thought we were discussing what names she's used before (as well as rebranding from biz point of view) Most girls re-use their pics, even if they're fake pics.
Most people want to know a rebrands name(s) to look at feedback for her previous name(s).
SO far we have a posted ad pic for a provider that no one in this market has seen before it seems. CKS was asking for info about her. GD did go see her but says she is NOT the person in the pic. He also said nothing about her being the same person from elsewhere that has used the pics.
So at this point we don't having any idea if the person has been in other markets using those pics under a different name or not. Until someone can establish who the provider is (not real world, such a stupid suggestion) any claims about rebrands is based on pictures and just largely irrelevant babble. Once someone can say I saw the girl "New Jini" in DMV and she is the same girl I saw in (other place) using (same or different) pics then you can say we're talking about the provider and not some picture that tell us nothing. Has anyone made that claim of seeing her and having seen her elsewhere?
we have to play probabilities here.
Yes, there are definitely some cases of girls using some other girls pics. However, this is relatively rare compared to a set of pics the same girl reuses.
From my experience, the hit rate for providers being the same ones based on same pics is over 90%. I feel like given these odds, it is far better to just assume the person is the same and look at info from her past rebrands than just wait for a confirmation that may never come. Expected value is overwhelmingly in favor of such approach.
“New Jini” in DC and “Narsha” in Philly use the same pics. Reviews under both name mention teeth issues and list similar physical attributes. If I had to bet, I would say Jini is the rebrand of Narsha.
Also believe “New Diva” is the same Diva (7 pages of reviews) who has essentially made Atlanta her home base as of late.
and just listen to someone (or more than one) who has actually seen the person.
While I agree that the OP was asking for information when I have a choice, and I don't think I'm unusual here, between guesses and probability and someone's direct observations I'm going with the latter.
It only took about a day or so to get certainty and and an guess that the person seems like someone that was in Philadelphia with (I assume but didn't check) reviews. (I think that addressed the core of the question being asked.) I'd also note that my comment was more about the side thread about rebranding (the majority of the posts made it seems) which may or may not apply, but clearly was not something that got called out by either of the guys posting about the east coast markets.
*You* can forget about statistics, I don't care one way or the other.
Sure, once we have a public report from someone we can trust,it is better. No argument from me there.
But before you have one, I find it hard to believe most mongers would decline a magic button that says "show all girl names and locations this pic was used in before". This info is always better to have than not. And if you happen to see that reviews for such girls are mediocre, you can hold off seeing this
girl until you get an actual report. It seems like a sound, valid strategy to me.
And here's a bit from my own experience. I remember being offered this girl in a pinch. I wanted to schedule an appointment in two or three hours and it was slim pickings. I looked her up, looks through her past reviews (or lack of), and ultimately decided to go with someone else. If I did not happen to have this extra info I could've said fuck it and taken the plunge. This additional info gave me enough to push me to make a decision.
And by the way - I have a prototype in work for the magic button. Unfortunately it's very rough and doesn't even have a ui yet,much less a legit ui.
What I'm afraid of is that once all mongers are given such power, girls will retaliate by just using completely fake pics. But anyway, that is probably another topic.
True, but sometimes you can find reviews with other names of the provider - even if the photo is no where near reality. So, if you know her 'traveling' name, you can find reviews on her under a different name. Takes a bit of detective work, so I leave it up guys who are in the know. I've been saved a few times through backchannel conversations.
actual person is were BS and really just whose pics were being used. LOL
I agree GD but just how do any of the people here actually know who you saw? Everyone is talking about the picture which could actually be used by several different people -- certainly if one considers a period of years.
Yeah, I don't know. There are a few guys I know backchannel that can tell by name or photo. Even though the photo isn't real, sometimes the girl uses the same photos elsewhere. I don't know how it's done, but some mongers are good at detective work and can find reviews for a 'new' girl or traveling girl.
Actually kind of frightening in some sense how a girl can be stalked.
Also looks like a new high in rates at 350, like Atlanta. Noticed the ad leaves out the age. Is she 5'3" and 105lbs?
you gave me a flash from the past. One of my early regulars had a crooked tooth in the front. She was Naomi in OC back in 2010, and when she moved to the BA, she became Davi. I was worried about the tooth the first time I saw her, but not a problem. Skinny girl with upgrades, and great skills. Don't know if she ever got it fixed or not. The last time I saw, she still had it. Davi would be well into her 40's by now, so I doubt it's her.
It could be her. How many girls have that description? Siri has crooked teeth, but not a snaggle tooth - on the left side of her face. She's the only one that fits that description in my decades of mongering. Low lights and makeup can make an Asian woman look much younger. I knew a woman in her mid-50s and with make-up could easily pass for 30.
Maybe yes, maybe no, but would be funny if it was the same provider.