Any one know where she end up? She was at Seoulplaymates and then Sweetangels for a little while. Sweetangels said "gone".
...will you do a Problem Report to combine her "Jina" and "Destiny" profiles? Will you try to combine her profiles so that your fellow mongers will have the benefit of reading her 26 so-so reviews as Destiny in order to make an informed decision on whether to see her? Or will you NOT try to combine the profiles and allow mongers just to rely on her one or two reviews as Jina where they would be getting the proverbial pig in a poke?
You keep saying you're looking out for the mongers. Are you really or are you going to allow Destiny to "rebrand?"
Are you going to talk the talk or walk the walk?
I can try to do a problem report.
The problem with problem reports the last few I did almost always resulted in a canned response of
"Unfortunately, we can not help you with this issue by Problem Report.
The Problem Report system is designed for quick, easy updates to profiles.
For more complex issues, especially those that might require correspondence back from our Support team, please submit a Feedback."
So, how many such responses do I need to get until I fully give up? You tell me.
You are barking up the wrong tree here about me talking the talk/walking the walk. When did I shy away from identifying rebrands?
Also, there is no" allow" here. They rebrand withot our approval. The job here is to identify them before they can take advantage.
It seems you are saying you gave up after you were advised to go to a higher level of TER staff.
In previous times, it would be difficult to prove a K-girl had two or more profiles because when she changed names/orgs the ad in the old name's profile was removed. So you couldn't provide proof positive that they were the same person.
However today a lot of K-girls are working for different agencies at the same time but under different names and both names still have their ads up. That may be the case with Destiny/Jina.
If you REALLY had the backs of your monger brothers, you would do something PROACTIVE. You would contact TER and give them a heads-up RIGHT NOW that Destiny has changed her name to Jina. You would give TER the links to her Destiny ad as well as her Jina ad. You would tell TER that if and when Jina gets a review, her profile should be combined with the profile of Destiny. That way Destiny couldn't run away from her reviews and your K-bros would be fully informed of her mediocre performance under her former name.
How about it, rocket - talk or walk?
So you went from asking whether I'd submit a problem report - to asking whether I'd want to submit feedback. Now that you learned problem reports don't work anymore.l for these scenarios.
OK, sure. I'm not sure I could do it that for every rebrand, but sure. But again in the past I've asked ter to merge profiles and yet they weren't. I've spent time collecting the info only to be rejected by ter.
Edit: trying to use "contact us" gives me "something went wrong" page. So much for that.
...do a Problem Report to combine profiles; that's above the pay grade of the Problem Report staff. But you found that out for yourself. They told you use the Feedback. But let's see what happens with Destiny/Jina.
How long has BigPapaFail been under the assumption that you could merge profiles with a Problem Report? How many years he’s been promoting himself as an expert on all things TER but he didn’t know THAT?
….are a problem for TER. They usually do t want to hear them.
I don't think that is the case. What TER seems to be looking for in problem reports are very clear, specific and clear actions for addressing the problem. In other words, a problem report is not for asking TER to do any real leg work to verify something but just to fix very clear situation. For example, I submitted one a couple of days ago and it was addressed within a day. Simple issue -- profile showing as "Report new URL" as the ad had been removed. The provider was now back the ad back up so TER was happy to update the profile with the URL provided in the problem report.
Challenging reviews and, in many cases, merging profiles in not as straightforward.
of problem report. When guys get off into the weeds disputing little details, it usually doesn't influence me one way or the other about seeing a Kgirl. I will mention discrepancies in my reviews, but a wrong age, cup size or eye color (there is an OC kgirl who wears blue contacts) is not something that's easy to document to justify TER changing a profile. The accuracy of photos is another one that is important, but hard to document other than hearsay.
I submitted several problem reports where a provider was rated 10 in service without the reviewer mentioning anal or threesome.
What can possibly be easier than to read a review, see there is no mention of anal or menage, and fix the grade per their own rules??? What kind of legwork does one need to do?
Each one of these reports got sent back to me lately.
Well then call the reviews out on the discussion boards if you want.
My experience is as described, and based on comments from Perfect Storm who should be considered something of an authority here. Moreover, the fact you can present cases where the policy is not followed doesn't mean the defined policy is not as stated. It just means that some failed to follow the policy -- or something more was going on than you say.
I didn't say the policy isn't as stated.
My point was that you said problem reports should be used for something easily fixable.
This IS something easily fixable. There isn't anyhrig easier than that.
You really cannot say that unless you know someone that has, or have yourself, seen both in the stated locations. You can say that some of the pics are used in both ads and that the details as close but not exact (32 c versus 32 d, 5'0" 5'1").
Is that the case or is that the inference you're making from the pics?
As for requesting the profiles be merged I am sure TER will require someone that can provide clear proof of the same woman being the one that opens the door in both locations and that there is some strong reason to merge the two profiles as they are in different markets. It does happen as you will see older profiles where multiple names are listed.
You can use the Report Problem for cases where the ad and the name is the same but someone just created a new profiles (and TER did not catch the fact the same ad and name was already in the db). I've done that several times without issues or drama.
This situation is different and you need to use the Contact Us link. If that is broken for you (I just tested and no problems so might be working for you now) just send an email to [email protected] to let them know. You might get some free VIP for helping them out.
Jensen, the link to contact us works, but when you submit the actual form is where it errors out.
Other than that, I don't have concrete proof besides the pics and people elsewhere saying it's the same girl.
If it has to be the same person seeing the girl at both place, how does one combat habitual rebranding? Seems an extremely easy loophole for orgs/providers to take advantage of.
Well that might be where using the email to let TER know of the issue -- be it systemic or not. But might just test and if no error will pass you're comment on.
I'm not really sure that the "rebranding" here is something to be worried about. Sounds like someone is interested in seeing her based on the other review so just looking to find the person because they want to book. (Leaving aside any stalking issues.) That said, I do think offering a helpful pointer to the OP query is a good thing but would be better with the caveat that it's based on pics so might be a different person. (Again, leaving aside the possibility of helping a stalker.)
Why the name change? Don't know but sometimes not the lady but the booker/agency is in control of stage names.
The markets are far enough apart that I don't think more than 5% (which I suspect is a generous guess) of clients would be impacted by the name change. Given it doesn't seem to be a change driven by a bunch of bad reviews doesn't seem like the typical rebrand type issue most worry about -- particularly those like yourself who see risk minimization as the top criteria for getting word out to others.
[Update -- no problem sending on my account. Maybe they will contact you for more details.]
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OK, I'll try again. Still feels lile I'm wasting time on something that should be more streamlined.
As far as the rest... and I'm not trying to start anything here so I'll try my best to keep this is as tactful as I can....I'm not interested in your analysis of how rebrands impact the customers. The fact is ter encourages correction of profiles.
Girls who rebrand often - mostly Asian girls - pose a clear issue if it's required for someone to see both names.
In like 98% of cases girls/orgs don't steal other working girls pics, even if they are 100% fake. Thus, in 98% of cases the people who are hurt are mongers. The infornation is available with 98% precision and all this rule blocks is ability of mongers to be aware the girl worked elsewhere and read her previous reviews.
Of course, you almost never care for this skeweness and would rather bring up something like stalkers to justify the shitty ass practice. This practice clearly favors the providers as all they have to do is change the name and go to another part of the US.
And part of online reviews is when a shitty show from San Diego comes to Yonkers, people in Yonkers have the opportunity to know and pack their pockets with rotten tomatoes. And if it's a great show, do the opposite.
OT, but I was told by a kgirl that she paid over $1500. for a professional pic. I told her the selfie by the pool just as good.
"In like 98% of cases girls/orgs don't steal other working girls pics, even if they are 100% fake. Thus, in 98% of cases the people who are hurt are mongers. The infornation is available with 98% precision and all this rule blocks is ability of mongers to be aware the girl worked elsewhere and read her previous reviews. "
and unless a Kgirl is hiding from a stalker or a bad review history, photo hijacking usually happens with the 90-day wonders that are working in the US for the first time. When she arrives at the incall the night before she starts working and meets the booker. She either provides whatever photos she has, or tells the booker she doesn't have any. If she has no photos, the booker will look through their archives and find photos from a past girl that are similar to the new girl, and use those until she earns enough to get her own photoshoot, which usually is done within a week or two. As you say, it's less common to intentionally use another girl's photos once they have a portfolio of their own photos (regardless of how old they might be - lol). The bookers are generally pretty good at finding photos from the past that are similar, because when the first reviewer creates the profile, they will often say the photos are "shopped" but not that she is a completely different girl.