There's a lot of good info in this particular board; the others not so much, IMO.  But I've noticed a group of individuals in here nearly always pursues CDL around and trolls any post he makes, and subsequently, everything goes off the rails (and the text goes to the right).  Sometimes I see links to the Political board that are years old.  

What the fuck is wrong that there seems to be a fucking deathmatch on every single thread?  I notice that I largely disagree with CDL posts in the Religion and Politics thread, but I'm not here for that.  I like to read good intel or advice, and he seems to have plenty of that for people trying to get in the kgirl space.

So what's the catalyst for this crazy shit?  Did CDL fuck your sister and wipe his dick on her hair or something?  

Happy Friday.

yep, bunch of surly old fucks with nothing better to do I think. they should book a kgirl session and get the poison out, lighten up a little bit.

FWIW, I think CDL is cool and he has given me lots of good info in PMs. And haters make me sick. So I generally just don't bother reading the catfight threads that seem to develop. I like to keep things light, like my favorite kgirls

Heh, “wiped his dick in her hair”. I’ve pondered the same thing but avoided asking becuase it would have the same result I’ve seen on other mongering boards. ZILCH. I’ve drawn the conclusion that these boards are places where some folks come to live out didgital alter egos for better or worse. Hijacking an otherwise thread for some self serving attack post is a pastime for some. Some have an irrational dislike/hate for for some fellows. We’re here to share info about fucking k-girls. The rest makes no sense.

Thanks for responding.  Funny how this post got crickets. lol

Those guys take pride in hijacking valid threads. They ruin the KGirl forum for gents who actually see KGirls and want to share valuable information. It’s a crying shame that Admin won’t kick them out of the KGirl forum.  
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One guy had a great suggestion for Rocket: ban him from the KGirl forum but give him his own personal forum where he can post his rants. That way those who like or follow Rocket and/or share his beliefs have a place to interact with him on TER, and those who don’t can safely read the KGirl forum without being distracted by his drivel (I guess that shows which camp I’m in).
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As to cdl, he’s provided me with valuable info on SoCal and Vegas KGirls so I appreciate his contributions.

Yup. I’ve tried many times and in different ways to get certain people to let threads at least mostly stay on track towards providing the most genuine value to the k-monger community here. Sometimes it works. Most times it doesn’t.

 
Diversions for humor or occasional interesting tangents are one thing. But all this soapboxing and launching ad hominem attacks makes me feel like teenagers must feel when they roll their eyes at the behavior of adults who can’t act like one.

 
Though I admit that I do occasionally take the worst thread hijacker here to task for doing so. I genuinely think he needs help he is not going to find here.  

 
That said, I’d love nothing more than a few good threads about good times with kgirls and how to either make them better or just increase their likelihood.  

 
A few posts ago, I wrote a reply about the connection I’ve found between kgirls who decide they like the way a particular monger smells and the quality of the resulting session. I do wonder if anyone else has ever noticed that. Or am I the only one?

As Gaigjin says (or at least implies) the way things are now is not what it used to be. I think two factors are at work: a bit of a culture shift in the member base and COVID. I would say the latter has the greater impact. Some is also driven by some old personal animosity but that was generally very sporadic and generally died pretty quickly.

 
We had a similar thread back in 2020 and I pointed out that prior to 2020 the board had just a hand full of threads that were driven to the right margin and some of those were actually good, fun threads. In 2020 we had more of that type of thread, all very argumentative, mean-toned and largely devoid of useful content, than we had pretty much in the life of the board until early 2020.  

 
I think part of the explanation is that there has been a bit of a board culture shift to argumentation as an ongoing interaction than used to be the norm here. However, that I think is not really held by the majority but the lack of good K-Girl supply and the other impacts to normal daily life due to the pandemic left people with more time to interact and to get drawn into that type of exchange.  

 
One hopes that as life normalizes and travel becomes much easier and higher volume (which I suspect also has some impact on these ladies being willing to travel) we will all be in a happier mind set and spend less time where accessing TER to comment is easy (the whole work from home probably means a lot of people can spend a lot more time on TER than they ever could in the office).  

 
Sunny is right -- the best approach is to just not be part of the problem. Make the meaningful comment for the topic and then just not get drawn into the shifting discussion as that seems to be where the less valuable "contribution" are found.  Hopefully we can find the way back to the better culture by following the example of the good members of the board that have avoided getting dragged into the mess but still were willing to hang out here and provide good contributions.

I am still relatively new to the Kgirl board, but I asked a similar question a few times about the hatred of Kgirls and the Mongers that like them.
     My answer was that some of the guys hijacked the Los Angeles board and ruined it with their love of the Kgirl scene and I believe CDL was one of the guys!
     That, in my understanding, is at least one of the reasons he is gone after by this group!
So, the Kgirl board was formed, and it rubbed this group the wrong way!

 

     IMO, I think the L.A. Board is dying and I don't know why these guys won't reclaim it, without KMongers to bother them, and enjoy it like they used to and stop the trolling!
     I might get a ration of shit, but I hope not!  
Because I'd rather exchange info about the Kgirl scene with like-minded Mongers!  

 

Guy's
     There is this other forum where the guy's talk about has anyone seen this Kgirl and are the pics real, what's her service like, what does she look like, ect.
     Is that allowed on TER or do they consider it shilling? I hope not, as good info is on that site, and I'd like us to do that here!
     Or will TER say that is what reviews are for? Just no opportunity for a back-and-forth discussion.

 

This is my understanding of an answer to your question.
If anyone can add or correct anything in my post, please do so!

I've found that when your fragrance is either new to them, and they get excited & interested or familiar and they like/love it both you and the session get a boost!

 

And when you return that can be one of the first things they bring up and show appreciation, because it makes the whole experience/session better for them!

 
I mean, would you rather fuck in a garbage dump or have sex in a garden ^^?

That’s exactly my experience as well. And it is true every time.

 
I’ve had a few girls who quite literally put their noses in my armpits to breathe in my scent (if they do it once it’s definitely going to happen at least a couple more times during the session). ‘And then there are the girls who sniff my hair. Either one of those has been a guarantee of a good time for me so far.

 
By “good time” I mean it is not necessarily a sign of old style PSE service (not BBFS) and enthusiasm level. But a sign that the girl is going to be fully engaged the entire session. And better able to keep up the performance of convincing me she is happy to be there with me.  

 
And to me that is always a huge plus.

"Guy's
     There is this other forum where the guy's talk about has anyone seen this Kgirl and are the pics real, what's her service like, what does she look like, ect.
     Is that allowed on TER or do they consider it shilling? I hope not, as good info is on that site, and I'd like us to do that here!
     Or will TER say that is what reviews are for? Just no opportunity for a back-and-forth discussion. "

 
Are you talking about some other sight or is that referring to the K-girl board?

 
I think we can have the type of discussion you are asking about but it needs to be done right. It's one thing to exchange information and discuss that information as related to a provider but it it starts as, or later comes across as, something that looks like an ad only attempting to promote the business of a particular provider you can have problems if it's not Friday. Also, if you're worried about the "that's what reviews are for" just adding the/a review link for the lady should go a long way in keeping TER happy.

 
There used to be another site where such discussion was a major part of its existences. Gone now but fondly remembered. I don't think I ever saw a flame post on that site.

First part is to Gaijin!

"Guys" is referring to all the guys on this thread!

Yes, it's a different site.

Since my name was mentioned, I guess I will have to "defend" myself - which is usually how my long back-and-forths with cdl happen. I rarely if ever attack him personally and I certainly don't venture to p&r board.  You can also find me defending cdl in a few places. So I'm not interested in making cdl look bad or anything like that. I'm always interested in truth and that mongers are getting treated fairly and equally.  

 
I firmly believe that consumers aren't protected enough and the supplier (girls orgs etc) are over protected. This results in what I consider double standards and suppression of degree of criticism that is necessary on a review board.  

 

So any time I see or sense that a customer right or a set of rights are shat on (pardon my French here), I will say so. I will say so in separate threads as well as other threads. Now, I'm not asking anyone to agree with me, but I will stand by my points and welcome a healthy argument. And I do like arguments as I'm an argumentative fuck.

 
I do these comments and replies on any public or even private boards. I think the consumer deserves to be protected from bs practices and bad product and practices should be publicly mentioned so as many people as possible know about them. After all, the supplier business heavily depends on what reviewers say about a girl/org, whether in a review or on a public board. I firmly believe consumers have the right to urge others to not give money to bad entities, so that their business does not grow. And in fact, consumers frequently do so with many corporations and companies.  

 
These comments and replies are almost always on the main topic - kgirls, reviews of kgirls, kgirl mongers, orgs and everything around it. Including price, business practice, blacklist, screening, session length, etc etc.  So they clearly belong in these forum. Now, as you might have seen, some people don't agree or don't like me constantly talking about these things. For those people, they are welcome to use ignore list and put me on there.  

If people like to believe that the world is a happy place and want to avoid negativity that comes along with criticism of unfair practices, they are welcome to close their eyes and ears as opposed to cutting off someone else entirely. That's that ignore button. Personally, I hate the idea of a circlejerk so I rarely if ever ignore anyone - even if their opinions are everything opposite of what I stand for. Plus, you know, the whole Sun Tzu thing. Anyway, my point here is that if you don't like what I'm saying you can simply ignore it. Yet people don't really do that despite the fact they've been saying they're ignoring me (or others). So really, they are quite argumentative themselves it turns out!  

 
Now, cdl is also a very argumentative person. He claims often that he ignores people's posts but will also go back-and-forth with others. For example, my latest back and forth him was after when I said that in my area, many new orgs won't ghost you if after initial verification you can't find perfect time for that day with a girl you'd like (who's not the star or most popular one). Then it snowballed into an argument of what it meant to be "independent". In the end I conceded as the meaning of the word really wasn't a big deal. The main point was to not blindly kiss ass and agree with any time slot they have in order to then "join the secret society". But have a good two-way business dialogue where both you and the girl have schedules and try to come up with a compromise.  

 
Of course, I will not concede about things I consider important. Such as orgs or providers threatening bl for non-great reviews (which I consider super important and that awareness should be raised about such orgs) and so forth. But again I'm an argumentative fuck and I do get carried away plus I do want that last word sometimes....guilty there.  

 
Anyway, hope my lengthy post cleared something up. In short, if you consider the game just fine and simply chalk up any wrongdoings the mongers are getting as part of the game, you can simply ignore my posts. I won't get mad I fully and entirely support people having different opinions. That doesn't mean I will agree with them or even will be willing to compromise. But they're certainly entitled to their opinions.  

 
Cheers  
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...the L.A. board.  Although CDL joined TER in October, 2008, he didn't start posting on TER until 2015.  

 
I'm not part of any "group," but I can tell you why I call out CDL.  Like Harpman before him, K-mongers appreciate the intel CDL provides.  But also like Harpman, K-mongers ignore CDL's faults just as they ignored Harpman's faults because of the intel he provides.

 
In case you hadn't noticed, CDL is very self-aggrandizing.  It's hilarious to be that way on a fuckboard where everyone is anonymous.  That doesn't bother me - his main flaw is the use of what he calls "poetic license."  What he's really admitting is that he is a liar.  Now I don't care if he lies all day long on this board, but he also lies all day long on the Politics board.  You can't have a good discussion if the other side is making up shit in order to try to win a political discussion.

 
CDL and I used to be good friends and we exchanged many PM's.  But I finally got fed up with his lies and started calling him out.  If CDL would stop lying on P&R, I would have no problem with him.  He could continue lying his ass off on this board and you guys would lap it up with a spoon as long as he keeps giving you intel.  But he won't stop lying because he simply cannot stop lying.

Thanks for the post.  

 
I was trying to give an answer to the OP and said "I believe" he was one of the guys. I "think" I read that he was accused of being Harpman and maybe that's how I put it together!  

 
Not really a big deal, anyhow, I hope the OP got his answer from your post.

TER username when the Kgirl board split off from the LA regional board.  I started using CDL in 2014 on another site and when that site closed around August 2015, I changed my original TER username to CDL from then. So BigP is correct on that part of his post.  The man BEHIND CDL may have been one of the those that advocated for a separate Kgirl board, but it wasn't as CDL.  

 
There were some here that thought I was other guys, including Harpman, but no one yet has correctly guessed my previous username.  I WAS one of a small group of guys that exposed Harpman's, TomCat's and Mufftime's LAKS scam, and if you do a search on this board, you should be able to find a link I posted to the published results of that expose.  They are still on the internet.  

The lack of back and forth discussion of particular girls is definitely "something missing".  Even if the criticisms start heated exchanges between fanboys and white knights,  I think a lot of good info would come out.

For instance, in my review of Shelby I said I thought she might be a he/she and I got a lot of hate mail. If that played out in public, I think a lot of people would have gotten some good info from it.  Also a lot of guys hate on my praises of ravi.  I guess they think she might improve her service if enough guys complain about her.  Sorry but not sorry Ravi is a top provider for me especially compared to the gross grannies that are out there right now.

This board might not be ready for 1 by 1 discussion of girls but I'm ready when you guys are.

It seems that every time there's some specific discussion of a girl, the topic gets removed with the formulated response as "VIP info in thread".

debate people with opposing political views without making it personal or calling the other side's views lies.  As a Californian, it seems there are an increasing number of people in this state who are intolerant of opposing opinions about politics and consequently demonize the people who express them.  I think the people in Washington are setting the wrong tone for political debate and it's causing the breakdown in civility.   Calling everyone a liar is not the way to persuade them or others of anything, and that's why the country is so divided, even on a fuck board where we are congregated because of our shared love of sex with beautiful women, without consequences or obligations.    

 
I think you are overreaching when you compare me to Harpman.  Harpman had an agenda, belonged to an organized group of shills, and prayed on newbies by directing them to see specific girls that he had a financial and/or personal interest in that went beyond just good looks and service.  I have done none of these things.  I have never asked for a quid pro quo for giving help to anyone who asks. If I know the answer, I will share.  Exposing his scam website where they plotted their fake reviews to shill for specific Kgirls was one of the best things I participated in for the Kgirl biz.  

because the Admin there is so heavy handed in suppressing free speech.  They do not allow argumentative posts.  If you want to argue, they will remove your post twice, and on the third time, you are banned from the site.  It's Facism's finest moment.  If you can't directly contradict someone who you feel is giving a false account, or may not have seen the girl at all, how do you arrive at a correct analysis based on the discussion of a particular Kgirl.  There are all kinds of lurkers on that site that don't see Kgirls but post "info" about them anyway, in order to be accepted by the membership.  

 
You can ask here if anyone has seen new girl "XXX" and does she really look like the photos, or how much taller is she than the ad states, etc.?  That starts a conversation, but is not shilling.   Shilling is when you start a thread about a girl you HAVE seen and want to recommend her to others.  It's supposed to be on the regional board, but Admin has been tolerant about some of them posted here because I think they recognize this is where the Kgirl mongers congregate.  The problem with posting them here is that if it's a SoCal girl, it's not going to help guys like Jensen or Sunny on the EC.  On the other hand, they may not mind, because it's still about a Kgirl, and most of them tour.

No need to pollute the k-girl threads board because you're pissed about something he posted on a politics board.

I have always found CDL to be informative, generous, intelligent and articulate.  So, I guess I can see why some of the trolls hate him!  LOL

If there is ever a KGIRL HALL OF FAME for MONGERS, CDL will be voted in on first ballot!

Your name wasn’t mentioned in the OP. Yet your responded with a over lengthy defense to the OP, essentially another one of your thread hijacks.  

Ironic, given that you were mentioned in a thread named Hijacking, and it would have been appropriate for you to respond there.

My name was mentioned in this thread, and I was attempting to answer the whole why there "seems to be a fucking deathmatch on every single thread".  

 
I didn't hijack anything.

one of my IT friends showed me how to leave you on ignore so you can't PM me, but I can still read and respond to your posts at my own discretion, when and where I want to.  

 
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."        ---Wm. Shakespeare

 
You are always operating on a false assumption that there are monger "rights" being violated by orgs.  Newsflash.  There are no rights when you are a customer of a business that is illegally operating.  If your drug dealer decided to quit selling to you for no apparent reason, what rights do you have to force him to continue?  None, because there are no rights when you engage in an illegal business.   Once you accept this, you can save yourself from wasting tons of bandwidth on spurious arguments.  Many mongers, particularly Newbies, fall into the trap that this is just like any other LEGAL retail business because the bookers run it so professionally.  The sooner you accept that your only recourse for a perceived slight by a booker is to stop going, you will realize that it's like cutting off your nose to spite you face.  It's their game, so it's their rules.  The best you can hope for is if you are cordial with them you'll get to see every Kgirl you want to see.  If you're an asshole, you won't.  It's not complicated.

See OP, I simply recounted my stance, and cdl felt the need to argue with me. Me and him are both argumentative. Both of us strive for the "Fushta"s like Mel Brooks and Leslie Nielsen in the classic comedy.  

 

Cdl, I thought no one knew who cdl is in real life? Or were these IT friends on this forum? Either way, my point was..... I was under impression that the implication of "ignore" button is to ignore someone, not engage in arguments with them. Perhaps I thought wrong.

1. BigPapa has a HUGE hard-on for all things CDL - mostly for things posted a political forum
2. Rocket feels he's fighting for consumer rights in the hooker/k-girl mosh pit,  
3. CDL feels that asking anyone to stay on the topic of a thead is an affront to free speech and unfettered fascism. Although he does provide most of the decent intel in here.
4. And all of them need the last word.  

Guess we'll just all have to keep watching the text move to the right.  I was just hoping people were in this particular discussion board to chat about Korean hookers.  Guess not.  Good luck all.

In case anyone is wondering, you can put someone on ignore, and still read their posts by simply clicking reply to the ignored post. That's how I occasionally read the Little Felcher Boy's posts. When I see a response to one of his posts that looks like he's up to his usual assholery, I just click reply, read his bullshit, and bitch-slap him when necessary. The rest of the time I can avoid his lies and nonsense. It makes TER a lot more fun for me.

The only thing I'd argue is that chatting about Korean hookers includes all of the following:

 
1. The particular hookers themselves. Their features, their pros and cons. What makes them a good choice, etc
2. The agencies that host these hookers
3. The pricing (structure, tips, etc) of these hookers
4. The reviews of these hookers
5. The reaction to reviews of these hookers
6. The act of booking these hookers and in general the act of communication to bookers
7. Anything surrounding the session flow

Most of us still are more interested in chat about Korean (and to some extent other Asian) hookers.

 
But yes, it is a lot more difficult these days to find the wheat in all the chaff as the ratio of wheat to chaff is declined a lot in the past couple of years. But I figure I can just go see one of the ladies and forget about the board when it really starts bothering me.

 
Or maybe take up a collection for the admins so they freeze a thread once it's gone about 4 levels deep? LOL I think at that point pretty much all have moved off topic.

Fourth reply off of the OP’s topic.

 
Either one should force closure of a thread in my opinion.  

 
It wouldn’t even cause any significant problems. Think about it. Closing a thread just means that if you want to carry on a conversation on a topic that started as a tangent in another thread you just start a thread on that topic. The only people that should be afraid of that are people who know that few would respond if they started a new thread. That by itself should be a clue.

He is a pathetic, racist POS and it is fun to mock him!

Found CDL's alias! I used to think it was BDP (bouche-de-poulet) but I guess I was mistaken.

your alias every six months, in the 13 years I have been here, I have had too many to count.  You say you found ONE.  Congratulations Inspector Clouseau.  Lol      If it's worth a 30-day suspension to you, go ahead and post it.  I will just change to another one I have used in the past.  If it doesn't have at least 6-8 indie reviews, then it's not one of mine.  

 
You seem a little distressed that in naming my stalker-trolls here, nobody named you.  It's because you're a rookie, Jacques.  Can you say hamburger without making the H silent?  You still haven't named the girls you have seen in the last 6 weeks.  You bragged a month ago about how much pussy you were getting, I called you out, and you ran away like a little girl.  I'm sure your mommy comforted you, and now you're feeling like a real man again.  Don't worry, it will pass like it always has.

As I told CaCa so long ago, it's impossible to argue with someone that a) argues in bad faith and b) has to get the last word. When you cease to contribute anything meaningful to an exchange, that's when I bow out. It doesn't surprise me that you fail to recognize that considering that you'd have to be an adult to do so.  

P.S. Who are you to tell me who to name? Especially when you don't know any of the girls in my area. I didn't even read the response you're referring to because I knew it would be childish. FOH with your bunk-ass.

I find CDL’s reviews to be helpful! Too bad he doesn’t spend more time in LA, as I am certain I would have had sloppy seconds on a number of hot kgirls that he found first due to the sheer numbers of sessions he has! The discussion board banter is always informative and witty, except the occasional trips down the rabbit hole which I scroll through quickly. Think how much better the boards would be if we had more guys like him willing to take the time to entertain and inform!

I've been lazy recently about getting my reviews up in a timely manner, and some are still in limbo because the link is gone after the girl left SoCal.  I'll try to catch up where I can.  Appreciate the kind words about my reviews and thanks for reminding me why I'm here.  

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this thread, what did you contribute that was "meaningful?"  I didn't TELL you to name anyone.  YOU bragged about how much pussy you were getting, so I asked who the ladies were that you're getting pussy from, since you are not putting up any new reviews.  Your pushback makes it look like you're not seeing any at all.  Your latest official excuse is that you don't want to name all of the girls you brag about seeing because I'm not in your area, and you think I don't know any of the girls?  You'd be surprised how many Kgirls I know and where they are working now.  It was rather prophetic when I said, "go ahead with your bullshit excuses why you can't name them," and here we are!!  You never fail to live down to your full potential.        

 
What about the other guys here who are from your area?  Wouldn't that be a "meaningful contribution" YOU could make?  You brag about all the great pussy you've been getting, so how about a few names so others IN YOUR AREA can check them out?  Your attitude seems rather duplicitous when comes to making contributions to this thread or any other that are "meaningful."  Maybe you could point us to some Kgirl intel that YOU have provided on this board in one of your prior posts.  Any post from the past will do.  If you can't find one, maybe this is a good place to start in the way of contribution by naming some of the great pussy you've been enjoying the last 4-6 weeks that have kept you so busy.  

It took you 10 days to come up with this?

But as usual, you have no substantive rebuttal to ANYTHING I said, none, zero, zilch.  Maybe YOU should take more time to see if you can think of any kind of defense before you respond.  Conceding everything I said just makes it true.  Thank you for making it so easy to squash you, little worm.  

 
Still not ready to name any of the pussy you been getting to help out the guys in your area?  It seems like the only one you're seeing has a last name of Palm-er.  Could you possibly present yourself as any more of a loser?  Lol

My rebuttal is my silence because you're irrelevant. The people in my area don't use this site, which would be helpful to know if you actually cared about sharing information. As usual, you have to get the last word, but don't have anything of substance to add, so you resort to the name-calling and childish antics.

What do you mean the guys in your area don't use this site?  You have 20 reviews in the NoVA-DMV area.  Did you actually see any of these girls, or did you just write the reviews to pick up a little free VIP?  What about Jensen and all of the others here who are from "your" area?  I'm sure they would appreciate a "meaningful contribution" from you about all the great pussy you bragged about getting.  Are you saying none of the girls you have seen were good enough for you to recommend or mention on this board?    Out of your 20 reviews, which girl was the best, and why did you think she was the best? Which one was the prettiest?   I'm giving you an opportunity to contribute something here rather than just be a troll and a stalker.  This is your chance to establish some cred, none of which you have at present.  If you want to see irrelevance, you need to look in the mirror.  Post something here that's helpful to other mongers in taking you seriously as a Kgirl customer and make yourself relevant for the first time.  Silence is not a rebuttal, it's a surrender.

I have to admit that there are a number of factors. In no particular order they seem to be:

 
CDL stalker droppings. It’s amazing how many threads get derailed by these guys. It would help if we could all stop responding to them. But it looks like that won’t happen.

 
There’s the narcissist who turns almost every thread into a far too wordy discussion on k-org business practices or some argument where the only purpose seems to be to get attention with arguments that shift like sand. Again, it would help - at least a bit - if we could all stop responding to him unless he actually posts a useful reply (which he occasionally does). But he doesn’t really seem to need a response to fuel his rants. I suspect the only thing that will truly help there is if he does the work in his life to manage his narcissism.  

 
The occasional anti-kgirl or anti-kgirl-monger post. Again, all we can do here is not respond.

 
I guess the net here is that we can each contribute to improving the situation by refusing to reply to the above types of posts. It’s at least worth a shot.

 
Whatever you all decide to do, have fun and be safe out there.