Looking for kgirls who like toy play incorporated into the session. Any one have any experience bringing toys to add to the session?

I think the [relative] consensus was that it's very ymmv and as many ymmv things its not considered to be good etiquette posted publicly. Unless the girl herself is open to everyone knowing, but you don't really know when she feels like that. Not eveb what she tells you can be taken as the truth...  

in agreement.  Toy play is highly individualized.  I have only had girls want to do it where we had an above-average connection built over time, and never met a girl where a new customer could expect that on the first meeting, regardless of whether he heard that she does it with her regulars.  This is why there are far less references to toys in Reviews than actually takes place in the biz.   My advice to the OP is just ask one of his regulars.  When you're a regular, there is already a good connection and you're not starting from scratch.  

I’ll just have to do the exploration. My next deep dive as far as relationship building will be with Nixie, but mums the word on the outcome.

is she really early 20's?  Good choice and good luck, Sag.

People have joked that she looks like Jane March

Early 20’s. Ah, those were the days! On a good day you could convince me soundly that she’s under 30 but she is pretty damned hot if you ask me. Girls like her, Kira and the now gone Kendall are the standard I seek these days. None in early 20’s but all pretty close in the WYSIWYG department. I’ve gotten in some hot water of late with bookers for trying to hold the standard. My rep has saved me but I can’t see a 5 behind the door that advertises as a 9 without saying something. That’s another thread that I’ll prolly find has already been beaten like a dead horse if I use the search.

Is Nixies service really all that? I know she's considered good looking but everything I've heard points to average service.

where I requested a new girl and had the booker tell me she's not my type and I wouldn't like her.  The first time a booker does that, I'm always effusive with my thanks and tell them that this kind of info gives me confidence to see more of his/her girls.  A few times, I ignored the warning and saw her anyway, and regretted it.  A booker like this wants a long-term business relationship and is taking a chance by waving you off of a girl that is not like the ones you normally repeat with, so I make sure they know that's the kind of service that will pay off for THEM in the long run.  That's how you avoid having a 5 behind the door that you are expecting will be better than that.

Exactly!

aspects as well.  

So if all one has to do to avoid the 5s is listen to the booker's advice, then how do the 5s actually get business? I'd imagine not many mongers actually want the 5s.

We need to classify what neutral and objective means.  

So, when the booker knows who I see, and I comment on the session, they should know which way to direct me when I ask about a certain girl, right?

As always, your argument is well thought through and reasonable. I understand what you are saying. And I think that, in an ideal world, that would be how it worked.  

All of the girls I've had toy-play with have initiated it, or at least given me clear hints of willingness.  Once I see these, I can offer a toy or two and see where it gets me.  
.
Maybe I have missed chances by not asking first, but maybe I have avoided bad reactions too.

context of this discussion to convey your unhappiness with YOUR OWN selection in a way that would encourage the  booker to look out for you next time?  This seems like another example of how you handle things in a way that gives your such a high percentage of unsatisfactory sessions.  

I should not waste my time because I think you might be playing dumb on purpose just to get the attention, but I'll take ONE shot and see where it goes.  

What are you even talking about?

“I think you might be playing dumb on purpose just to get the attention”

Yeah, I know. Not even our local narcissist actually says we should report k-orgs to anyone but other mongers.

Agree and I was being short on explanation so not clear.

I think east and west have somewhat different situations that will mean difference experiences so that would be one aspect. I also agree that some of those you interact with over the phone will not know - I'm not trying to make a universal claim here.

Exactly Jensen. It's one's tone and politeness that will get positive results in the future. When the Little Felcher Boy says "Is telling a booker that the woman is 20 years older and 20 pounds heavier than her pics and you are dissatisfied immensely a "neutral or objective" statement?", he's focusing on the negative, and will likely get poor results from that booker in the future IF he doesn't get bl'd for being a jerk for saying it that way. A reasonable, mature adult would say something like "Jane was a little older and heavier than I prefer. Next time you have a lady who is [age range] and [weight range] who provides [desired services] please let me know and I'd love to see her." The booker will understand that you didn't enjoy your time with Jane, and assuming that he wants your business in the future he'll turn you on to a lady who meets your style and who he expects will rock your world. Maybe even the booker will tell her that you had a below average session in your last visit with Jane and ask her to treat you really nicely. If he does then you say "thanks" and reward that booker with more business soon. On the other hand if the next lady is also a dud who doesn't fit your age/weight preference then you move on to a new or different booker and realize that the first booker doesn't give a shit about your business. Eventually either you'll find a booker that you click with or you'll realize that no booker can satisfy your expectations.
.
From what I see here our Little Felcher Boy always focuses on the negative, and believes that management/booker is his enemy. That's his choice, but as someone who has managed various business for the past 40+ years I can assure you his way is a recipe for failure in any business or relationship.

Yes, looks are subjective but most would agree that a whale  won't be scored a 9 on looks scale.

If you get a good that is so off its advertisement you actually have no fun in consuming the good; ie mega false advertisement, who is to blame? People get pissed when they're fed lies and they are pissed they wasted time.  

Actually, many guys do complain when they have a substandard session.  You just don't see it because it happens directly with the booker and not in a public forum.  My favorite places will boot a bad one within 2-3 days, so there isn't even time to leave a negative review since they are gone already.  Obviously this isn't true of every place, but it is one of the reasons why I go where I go.  

Even though I have no interest in toys during a session some seem to be like you. It has come up occasionally but not that well discussed. Kudos for adding signal rather than noise.

"If you get a good that is so off its advertisement you actually [would] have no fun in consuming the good" then why not leave? If you know immediately from her weight and age that you won't have fun with a KGirl then leave. Why would you care if the girl or the booker get mad? Save your money, get on the bus/BART, and go home. Text the booker and explain to him/her that the girl didn't look like her pictures, that she was substantially heavier and/or older than her pictures - but say it nicely and politely and constructively - and then look for another KGirl from a different booker. And if the booker bl's you for walking out who cares? What's worse, feeling like you've been ripped off or going back to the same booker and getting ripped off again?

manages the girls. There are a few orgs where the bookers also manage the rotation of touring girls.  So the girls dealt directly with the booker in setting up their employment and should know who he/she is.  More often, the rotation of touring girls is handled by the org owners, not the booker, so it's possible that that girl does not know the booker well the first day or two.  However, the text messages the girls get regarding the day's scheduling usually identify the booker by the name he/she is using and sometimes with the prefixes "booker-" or "PO-".  After the first day, they are solid co-workers with a singular goal . . . . to make money.  

Top top agencies in SoCal tend to not waste any time moving the substandard girls on to smaller markets where the guys are just happy to have a Kgirl, ANY Kgirl.  

BL'd who took the time to explain in detail why a session was so bad with a particular girl.  As you say, it has to be done diplomatically so that it's clearly constructive and not just whiney.  After a bad session also a good time to give the booker your preferences and ask if he can let you know when new girls arrive that fit your preferred body/type or services.  

I am beginning to think that all this coverage (pardon the pun) that blacklisting is getting is essentially equivalent to clickbait.

I said take the booker recommendation when it is your first session at THAT org, and you are trying to get your foot in the door.  If the booker clears you to see your first girl, and you refuse the one he says is "available", he may not give you another chance and now you start over trying to get screened at a different org.  Think of it as taking one for yourself rather than TOFTT.   "Whales" are very rare among Kgirls, but there are a lot of girls who are "curvy" that could stand to lose 15-20 pounds.  Again, once the booker knows what you like, if you are a regular customer, he/she will steer you in the right direction if you ask.  

That's too much time
Why is a subpar offering making that money off mongers in that time period?  

I'm not msquoting anything. I thought we agreed that there are subpar offerings.  

First, thanks for actually discussing and not calling me names. Very appreciated. I'll even let go of the bart/bus jab.