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LLPeter 16 Reviews 767 reads
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Me 2 !

Jensen363632321 reads

I'll preface this with a quote from another board regarding new year resolutions: "My resolution is to quite falling in love with them [K-girls]". But I'd say a) so many are SO adorable why hold back and b) isn't that all part of the fantasy.

I was recently watching some old interview with Grace Kelly and they were talking about the themes in many of her movies -- young girl, old men and love -- noting that these days' that's seen as a bit of a scandalous relationship (robbing the cradle) but in the 50s the idea of a man in his 40 or 50s marrying a women in her 20s was not something that shocked people (thought I suspect was not that common either!). The thing they didn't (while I was watching) talk about was how most of these movies tended to be set with an American man somewhere in Europe and the girl was local (European) as I recall.

Well, having have a really good session earlier I started thinking about Korean culture that the question of age. (I ready for all the barbs and jokes/warnings -- bring em on; at least we'll have something to read here ;-) That said, I don't really see a problem with giving my emotions freedom to respond (and wonder somewhat wildly) while realizing that reality is probably far different.  

The other aspect is just range of ages does the culture have before you get into the "Oh, that can only be about the money" or just "that's just disturbing!". I read something a long while back that suggested the max age before men started become unattractive for relationships was something like 47 (not sure what the age range for women but assumed they were talking probably serious relationship age so maybe mid 20s to mid 30s).

Well, let see if there any life in this horse ;-

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CENZO1952 reads

It's been around for a while, but one of the supposedly "ideal" age relationships is this.  Divide the man's age by one half and then add seven (7) tears. That then gives you the woman's age. The formula gets pretty interesting as the man gets older.  Ciao!

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coeur-de-lion787 reads

Applying that formula to the Kgirls I have dated on the outside tells me I am in the correct age range on the ones I am attracted to.

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mrfisher800 reads

Subtract 100 from your age (But don't go less than zero.), then add 18.  

Works every time.

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Jensen36363774 reads

Posted By: mrfisher
Subtract 100 from your age (But don't go less than zero.), then add 18.  
   
 Works every time.
lol

But is the location based -- I think there are still places where under 18 is still considered legal -- or is 18 the magic number for some other reason? (And of course as we're supposed to out live out parents' generations and mine have hit the century market and going strong I might regret the 100 someday ;-)

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its_me700 reads

That formula doesn't work for S. Koreans.  In S. Korea, when you are born you are 1 year old. Therefore, even if a K-girl says she is 18, you need to make sure whether she is Korean or US 18 years old

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mrfisher655 reads

Of course some countries have crazy ways of counting.

For example, one guy I know said that where he's from, gals are 8 before they're 7.  Crazy, huh

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GaGambler656 reads

There is the actual birth day, and then there is the date the birth is actually recored, which in some cases is over a year after the actual date of birth.

and then of course there is hooker age and my experience with Asian girls in general is that age can easily be over a decade different than her real age. Which in all honesty has pleasantly surprised me a couple of times recently with a couple of ladies that I started real relationships with. The last one had such a baby face I thought she really was her advertised age of 25, when we started dating she confessed she was 38, which meant instead of being well over 30 years younger than me, she was not even 20 years years my junior which gave us a little more in common. I think my days of having GF's under twenty five years of age are about over. As long as they are Asian, which generally means they still look young, 30 something is more my type for a "real" relationship" as I find myself getting older.

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coeur-de-lion692 reads

that lasted the longest were around 35, but when I first met them, their ads said 22 or 23.  After seeing each one a few times at the incall, I'm getting better about guessing their real age before deciding if they are outside-dating or future-girlfriend material.  You can't tell by looks, but by their demeanor, confidence, sophistication level and experience.  I went out with one last weekend, but she was only 29 and I probably won't go out with her again.  Just a tad too immature and self-centered.

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coeur-de-lion657 reads

all-time low, but still hilarious!  LOL

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mrfisher630 reads

Some day someone has to explain it to me

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coeur-de-lion583 reads

I have been spreading it around this afternoon, too, and they are rolling on the floor.  Good line.

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dancebbq091006 reads

look you cant apply what an escort kgirl view toward older guys. One they dont care.  kgirls with BFs are all over the board.  Some about same age and some Ive seen at least over 20.  Its not like the girl intoduce the guy to her parents etc.  hey mom and dad i banged my BF for money but now were together.

Civie korean girls age is a factor.  Anything over 7 is frowned upon.  And if guy over 40 then parents get concerenrd about raising kids etc.  and the girl will be look down upon as some slut.  

Are you into a kgirl and concerened to ask her out since too young?  Well dont be.  Like i said working girl attitude is differnet.  Its my experience dating civie and escorts.

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Jensen36363824 reads

Posted By: dancebbq09
look you cant apply what an escort kgirl view toward older guys. One they dont care.  kgirls with BFs are all over the board.  Some about same age and some Ive seen at least over 20.  Its not like the girl intoduce the guy to her parents etc.  hey mom and dad i banged my BF for money but now were together.  
   
 Civie korean girls age is a factor.  Anything over 7 is frowned upon.  And if guy over 40 then parents get concerenrd about raising kids etc.  and the girl will be look down upon as some slut.    
   
 Are you into a kgirl and concerened to ask her out since too young?  Well dont be.  Like i said working girl attitude is differnet.  Its my experience dating civie and escorts.
Three formulas then -- divide by 2 and 7 and it's good; subtract 7 for the lower limit but don't be over 40 and then, not surprisingly, if you're in something of a counter culture setting all bets are off.

Not really in a position to start dating any of the K-girls as I don't think any are local, just touring, that come through DC. Mostly idle musing on a dull day. I'm happy if they remember me and like me enough to let me know when they're coming back.

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dancebbq09723 reads

Well if worth anything.  Your not missing anything.  Take off the makeup and facade of their work performance.  They still eat,shit, argue like a normal civie girl...lol

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coeur-de-lion1829 reads

I'm going to give you some cred on this one, dancebbq.  

I was invited by a retired Kgirl that I was very close to, to come to Seoul and meet her parents and spend a one week vacation with her.  Age difference was 20 years, which put me about the same age as her parents.  They weren't thrilled, but didn't throw me out either.  They just wanted their daughter to be happy.  I felt they were more put off by the fact that I wasn't Korean than they were that I was so much older.  

So I think you are right.   During the time they are working girls, age doesn't seem to be a big barrier to an older outside boyfriend, but once they retire and re-enter the civilian world, things change a little and their attitude comports more to the social norm in Korea.

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dancebbq09823 reads

Haha...thanks i think?

I guess your saying all my previous were BS? Haha...

Dont worry  you will slowly accept what I say is the truth! Lol!

I am surprised though a kgirl actually invited a customer whos white and over 20yr old to meet her parents in korea.  Shocked actually.  My experience they dont want to take any chance of anything related to her work in the US. Although, Ive tried meeting 3 kgirls in korea after meeting then in US.  1 girl didnt want to meet me at all not even at her room salon work i guess too close to home visiting her in her homeland?  2nd girl only in nowork settings as friends over dinner etc.  3rd girl she retired so did meet her and got to bang her for free...but then got away from her she was too serious for relationship  i guess cause older?

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coeur-de-lion709 reads

No, I'm not saying anything about BS.  I just figured out that you are probably Korean, and that would account for the different perspective we have on dating Kgirls.  I'm sure it is a much different experience for a Korean man than it is for a Caucasian.  I would think it would be much easier for you, starting with the lack of a language barrier.  Seems there would be other positives as well.  The only negative you mentioned was that they are grumpy in the morning.  If that's the only down side, then its pretty good to be you.  

Just realize that some of the advice you give here is going to be unique to you because you are the same nationality as the Kgirls, and may not be the right way for Caucasian hobbyists like me to approach Kgirl dating, or might not even work for us.  Now that I have figured out that you are Korean, I am going to re-read what you previously posted in that perspective and see if I get more out of it.

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dancebbq09694 reads

For sure theres differnces, but i wouldnt say koreans have any advantages over white or chinese for that matter.  Other then maybe no BS fake acting, saying "oh honey" fake moans etc.  

Kgirls dont really like korean customers.  Most treat them like garbage or demand bareback with the excuse "we are same racw so no disease" crap.  Its no wonder alot of the girls BFs are nonkoreans.  

As for the downside...if you only knew..lol



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GaGambler636 reads

I can eat the food, it does't have to be "toned down" for me, I have slanted eyes, but I am 100% American and am mixed Chinese, not Korean. So I seem to get the best of both worlds.

You are absolutely correct about K girls not liking Korean customers, I think being Korean puts you at an immediate disadvantage, but once you get past that first step, I think you most definitely have some advantages over the rest of us.

I guess it also depends on the woman, some K girls immediately embrace American culture, others are here for years and don't even bother learning the language except for the basics needed for work and NEVER become the least bit Americanized. Those are the types I think that would much prefer someone like you over the rest of us.

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dancebbq09761 reads

Hmmm....ive never had a bad first impression.  In the contrary every kgirl has been relieved when i speak to them in korean.  Puts them at ease.   I just dont speak down to them like most korean losers.  Whatever the race its about being respectful to the girl and being polite.

I wouldnt hold that you being chinese is any advantage^^ ive had plenty of kgirls who are racist and bigots...think chinese and vietnamese stink...smelly like fried rice (their words).  Jews are rich crooks and blacks are dirty and dont want to see them.   Koreans in general are racist society.

As for the non americanized kgirls...who knows...i had one ex barely spoke any english and still ended up marrying a white customer few months later after i broke up with her.

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its_me730 reads

CDL,

You are correct, Korean parents are very concerned about keeping their heritage and not mixing with other races. However, being American helps quite a bit with many parents and especially grandparents.  

In S. Korea, if a much older man is walking with a much younger woman, it is automatically assumed that she is a working girl and you are her sugardaddy. This doesn't matter whether you are a Korean or non-Korean. People passing by will make snide comments about her while walking by you two out loud.

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coeur-de-lion696 reads

I have experienced the snide comments.  When I first started taking Kgirls out, I took one to a club in Ktown, thinking she would be more comfortable in a familiar environment.  It was upsetting for me not to know what people were saying to her, but I could tell that some of the comments she was getting in Korean were not very kind.

This taught me that  its better to take them someplace where it is common to see older men with younger women (trophy wives, etc.) to draw less attention to ourselves as a couple.  Good areas to not stand out with a 20-year age difference are Beverly Hills, Newport Beach and La Jolla.

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Toomuch Fun771 reads

Posted By: Jensen36363
I'll preface this with a quote from another board regarding new year resolutions: "My resolution is to quite falling in love with them [K-girls]". But I'd say a) so many are SO adorable why hold back and b) isn't that all part of the fantasy.  
   
 I was recently watching some old interview with Grace Kelly and they were talking about the themes in many of her movies -- young girl, old men and love -- noting that these days' that's seen as a bit of a scandalous relationship (robbing the cradle) but in the 50s the idea of a man in his 40 or 50s marrying a women in her 20s was not something that shocked people (thought I suspect was not that common either!). The thing they didn't (while I was watching) talk about was how most of these movies tended to be set with an American man somewhere in Europe and the girl was local (European) as I recall.  
   
 Well, having have a really good session earlier I started thinking about Korean culture that the question of age. (I ready for all the barbs and jokes/warnings -- bring em on; at least we'll have something to read here ;-) That said, I don't really see a problem with giving my emotions freedom to respond (and wonder somewhat wildly) while realizing that reality is probably far different.  
   
 The other aspect is just range of ages does the culture have before you get into the "Oh, that can only be about the money" or just "that's just disturbing!". I read something a long while back that suggested the max age before men started become unattractive for relationships was something like 47 (not sure what the age range for women but assumed they were talking probably serious relationship age so maybe mid 20s to mid 30s).  
   
 Well, let see if there any life in this horse ;-)  
   
 

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LLPeter768 reads

Me 2 !

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DCTom75719 reads

Yup.  Man I miss the coming attractions feature.

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divemaster13772 reads

The way my wife explains it, a Korean baby is 1 year old at birth, and then when the new year turns over (I guess this could either be by the Western calendar or the Chinese calendar), you gain another year.  So a baby born say in October 2010 is considered 2 years old in January 2011.

I use this all the time in joking with my wife.  For example
--(her) "How many pieces of chicken did you get at KFC?"  
--(me) "20"  
--(her, looking quizzically at bucket with obviously fewer pieces)  
--(me) "well, actually 12 pieces, but 20 by Korean counting"

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