K-girls

Re: Because I started in P4P with . . . .
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 2730 reads
posted
1 / 26

Since we were all last here 19 months ago, prices have risen in the Kgirl market.  With the exception of an OC agency running a $240/hr special, the previous LA norm of $250 seems to be a thing of the past.  Prices now run from $260 to $300 for girls that were formerly at $250.  OC has been $260 for several years, but now OC prices are running as high as $280.  Isolated agency girls in LA and OC are charging more if the traffic warrants, so there seems to be no agency-wide set pricing anymore.  

 
Personally, I always felt Kgirls were underpaid compared to indies, so I'm okay with the increases.  I didn't see as many girls during the "dark" period of TER.  I mostly repeated with my favorites.  Now that reviews are back, I will probably go back to my old style of two new girls a week, and two repeats.   Of course, I will have to pay more now, and probably tip a little more, so after a test period, I'll see if I have to adjust my hobby budget.  

 
Have rising prices changed the way any of you are scheduling sessions?  Do you consider price at all when selecting a new girl to see?

KitsuneX 7 Reviews 123 reads
posted
2 / 26

I've also always felt k-girls were underpaid (especially factoring in the agency's cut) and have a routine of tipping between 20-25% of their fee.  

I've spoken to a few girls who were very conflicted about working in this industry at such a low rate, and for the girls who have more self-dignity, they definitely strive to increase their base rate (which also serves as a screening mechanism for them).  

The price hike hasn't affected my habits, as I view $50 as a marginal increase. If/when the rate shoots up to $500, then I might have to adjust my frequency a bit.

navygrog 60 Reviews 103 reads
posted
3 / 26

I always liked knowing the general rate was 250. I would keep that in one pocket and then more in the other for tip based on performances. If a girl charged more, she would say so on her CV page.  I felt nervous whenever a booker mentioned the price on the phone.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 96 reads
posted
4 / 26

girls at the same agency charging different rates, the bookers HAVE to tell the price, but by then, you have been screened and they know who they are taking to.  I imagine they are more nervous about it then we are.  

 
I had one yesterday that was a repeat of a girl I saw a month ago.  Her rate then was $270.  Yesterday, it was $280.  I was glad he told me so I could raise my tip $10 to match the last tip I gave her.  Otherwise, I would have felt bad after the fact wondering what she thinks of me for "reducing" the tip $10.  I don't want to be THAT guy.  LOL

 
I haven't paid any agency girl more than $300 for an hour.  Perhaps that will be a kind of "ceiling" for awhile when everyone gets there,  like the $250 rate was in the past.  

GaGambler 165 reads
posted
5 / 26

The difference between any rate between $250-300 hr mean pretty much nothing to me. I consider it more of a rounding error than anything. For some reason I too seem to notice and balk at K-Girls charging more than $300. It guess it's a mental thing. I refuse to pay $3.99 a pound for tomatoes too, not that the difference of a dollar or two is going to impact my life. I guess I just don't like paying "over market" for anything, unless I am giving my money away freely as in a tip.

 
For the record, there is really only one K-Girl agency in Dallas, they charge $300 hr, which is NOT a big discount to the market like it is in LV or LA. That said, I have no problems at all with the rate, the quality of the girls and the service gives me no reason at all to complain. There are still a couple of Thai quasi agencies in Dallas in the $260-280 range, but while the Thai girls all seem to give equal service as the K-Girls they are not as consistently as "hot" as the K-girls. There are a lot of "butter faced" Thai girls, although there are some DDG ones as well.

asianprince 141 Reviews 128 reads
posted
6 / 26

Like I have said before, many LA guys think giving extra $20-50 tip will make them feel better/get better services in future/want to look more noble to girls.  SF/SJ guys fought tooth and nail to keep $200/hour rate however the area's cost of doing business forced houses to jack up a tiny $20.    

Because there are less exposures/information since FOSTA, I do hesitate more to book hourly rates at higher prices.  At $250, I normally booked an hour session however now I book mostly $200 half hour session for first time girls or girls with questionable credentials.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 118 reads
posted
7 / 26

I used to make the point that I always book one-hour with new girls, regardless of how good their reviews are.  Then when I repeat, I will often go to a two-hour session.  Half-hour sessions work, too for some guys (mostly younger ones - Lol), but I'm big on DATY and its rare for me to be able to get a girl off and still have time for her to get me off in a half-hour, so I haven't done a half-hour in years.  But, its the same principle . . . . take a shorter session first, and then if its good, schedule a longer one on the repeat.  Saving a little money is the side benefit, IMO, but I'll take it, just like you.  The biggest benefit is not being stuck for a long session with a girl you are just not connecting with, or a "burn-out-girl" who is just going through the motions.  You can always leave early instead, but I don't like to have to explain it to the booker, so I always stay the full time even if its not working that well for me.  

 
We all have to adjust to higher prices, and with business picking up as a result of TER reviews being back, bookers and Kgirls may think its a good idea to keep raising them while business is brisk.  Hopefully, they will soon reach a resistance point from us mongers and won't go any higher for awhile.  

mmmmm00 39 Reviews 145 reads
posted
8 / 26

2 LA veterans with J are now asking $350.  

Happy 2020 everyone!!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 123 reads
posted
9 / 26

Vivian and Cami.  Am I right?

mmmmm00 39 Reviews 94 reads
posted
10 / 26
Silkstalkings 329 Reviews 109 reads
posted
11 / 26

SO, I spoke with Chloe. She said its her call and seems Rebecca decided to follow.
Perfect way to eliminate the window shoppers or so called cheap dudes.

Seems so many guys on another board are all bent out of shape about her inflation.

Simple, Move on!

Don't cry about it!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 104 reads
posted
12 / 26

indies the first year before I discovered Kgirls, I have always felt the Kgirls were underpaid for the great service they give us.  These two you named are top girls in the toughest market in the country.  I have no problem paying this rate for THEM, but might hesitate with less capable girls if they start asking for this amount.  

 
There are some agencies that raised prices again to $280 recently that were $250-260   20 months ago when TER started their blackout.  The outlier is a well-known OC agency who actually LOWERED their price from $260 to $240 during this past year.  No telling how long this "special" will run.  

mmmmm00 39 Reviews 98 reads
posted
13 / 26

Agreed that Chloe and Rebecca are probably worth the price hike, yet that is still subjective. Other mongers may not think they command the premium. And that is fine too.  

The concern some have is that Chloe and Rebecca may be setting a new market price of $350, which is why the boycott has been called for on another board. 260 vs 350 is a significant delta especially over time if you're going 2-4 times a week.  

Obviously I preferred when Chloe and Rebecca were charging 250, was then ok with 300, but frankly at 350 I may just not book them as often. And I used to see them both once a week. I'm definitely losing in this new world order and I'm not sure they're necessarily gaining.  

We shall see how thing play out and if 350 sticks.

jameskm1984 27 Reviews 129 reads
posted
14 / 26

If you think $240-$250 was low, the girls in Canada go for about $170 USD. When I tell girls what the girls in US are making, their jaws drop. That's another reason why there's been an increase of Chinese girls in Canada since all the Korean girls are trying to make their way south of the border. Same in NYC: all the AMPs in Manhattan are Chinese now because kgirls are realizing they can make more as an AAMP. However, most AMPs in Manhattan now are $280 (all inclusive except tip).  

 
As for pricing in the US, it's been pretty consistent on the East Coast at around $260-$300 for the past few years now. Girls in Seattle are now $350, but that's more supply and demand. But even before the TRB bust, they were always at $300 when the first girls came more than 10 years ago.  

 
But as others have mentioned, paying $300 or even $350 is a steal when it comes to quality and service with kgirls. In a lot of cities now, prices have been increasing all across the board because of an increase in overhead. Also, there seems to be an increase of providers who have serious cases of GPS. I'm a firm believer that providers should charge whatever they think their time and body is worth. HOWEVER, a 22 year old "college cutie" who thinks she can charge $450 just because she's hot but has shit service and a limited menu can kiss my Korean ass.

askevi 112 reads
posted
15 / 26

Hi GaGambler, if you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd like to know the name of the K-girl agency in Dallas.  Thanks!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 118 reads
posted
16 / 26

were not previously advertised (BBFS)  being publicly advertised by some of the LA agencies, I think an upsell amount for this service is probably going to become standard at the $350-$400 range or higher, more for top girls.  I've talked to many girls about this trend in the past year, and there seem to be two schools of thought from the girls that have heretofore been YMMV.  

 
1.  Some of the top girls have the attitude that its their pussy, so they make the rules, and rather than advertise BBFS publicly, they would rather take it off their menu altogether and make everyone, including former YMMV guys, use a condom.  There has already been comments on other boards that show this is starting with a lot of girls that are 9's and 10's for looks.  DDG girls can make a good living without offering BBFS, so those that have been getting it from the top girls in the past, those days may be numbered.  Some, but not the majority, are toying with the idea of making it an upsell, like the business model being used at KTE, at around $450-$500 for the best-looking girls.  

 
2.  A decent percentage of second and third-tier girls seem inclined to want to jump on the BBFS advertising wagon as an upsell price.  Reviews tend to show KTE girls are usually 7's and 8's in the looks department, and they are getting a $100 premium for BBFS.  Many others who are not top-tier girls are thinking they should be doing this, too.  At present, many 2nd-3rd tier girls are YMMV with their regulars and are not charging additional for it.

 
I think the days of guys keeping their mouths shut about BBFS and only talking about it through PM's are over, and the fact that its going public is going to cost everyone a lot more.  I can't say I blame the girls for cashing in on these millennials who want to brag about who they got BBFS with.  I think the unintended consequence is that the hottest girls may raise prices as well, but will take BBFS off their menus completely.  The hottest ones know they are gorgeous, and that guys will pay a premium just to be naked with them, without BBFS on the menu.  Many have been a $300 for a year without deviating from the standard Kgirl menu, with CFS.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 111 reads
posted
17 / 26

Just what I was thinking. I can fly and with the current exchange rate it is a very nice weekend.

Silkstalkings 329 Reviews 119 reads
posted
18 / 26

Both Chloe and Rebecca are different when it come to all the other kgirls in LA. They have a following and client list that will keep them booked. You have guys flying down from Seattle to see Rebecca that we're past  clients of her from there. A few other girls maybe Lyn (aka Yve) or Reah might be able to pull off the rent increase.

mmmmm00 39 Reviews 126 reads
posted
19 / 26

how does one get back in touch with reah?

GaGambler 128 reads
posted
20 / 26

The name of the agency is Hotdreamselect.  

 
I don't know their current screening requirements, but in the past at least they were pretty thorough, like most K-Girl agencies, but they can be a god send for guys like me who typically book "same day" or for anyone who gets that last minute cancellation by an indy.

f32driver 43 Reviews 135 reads
posted
21 / 26

I don't really mind the increase but I would prefer to know ahead of time and not dropped on me last minute. I have a really good relationship with one booker and I'm lucky that, with her at least, my rate hasn't changed since 2015. I even openly said to her that I'm surprised with all the increase, it didn't affect me but she told me it's literally just me lol.

When Mindy's rate went up slightly with J a few months back, I did admittingly ask J first about it, as I was curious as to why but I was never given a direct answer so I dropped it. I personally asked Mindy after and she told me she actually wasn't sure about the increase either. I'm a regular for her and seen her way before she went to J so if she says she isn't sure why either, I believe her. Although I'm afraid when she returns that, the price increase will affect her too. While... I will probably see her still but I will absolutely tell her anything above even 280 is not a great idea.

If the increase continues, I probably won't revisit too many that have gone up in price. Oddly I meant to visit a few I have visited during the blackout but haven't done so yet.

-- Modified on 1/13/2020 4:20:10 PM

cheesycall10014 20 Reviews 149 reads
posted
22 / 26

Chloe is a doll.  three-fiddy is steep though. Rebecca is a sultry professional.
What about Cari? is she still part of the stable?

gatorjimmy 33 Reviews 99 reads
posted
24 / 26

In Orlando.....we don’t have the K- Girls scene.......we have typical AMPS......mostly run by Chinese coming from NY & LA....there are a few Korean or Japanese that work in the Amps, but they are always run by Chinese MMS......  

The FS AMPS in Orlando you pay $200 for 45m, 240 for  1 hr w 2 shots on the goal.....thats in my past, would need at least 90 m for a second, cup, lol......typical shower table w body slide, TUMA, 5 m BJ.....then off to the room....they might start w a lame message, but I’m not there for that, so I just go in for some DFK, and then she will go down on me, some DATY or 69 then suite up for the main event....if time left she might try to get me going again...not happening, or cuddle or lame massage, then a bottle of water & MMS walks you out....ladies usually 22- 35....one place I love MMS is probably 42 and hot as shit, all the mongers try to get her, but you have to be a regular, or they are busy as shit.....

Great price for BBBJ, DFK, & covered FS.....

mmmmm00 39 Reviews 135 reads
posted
25 / 26

who do you consider being the DDG / hottest girls these days? not interested in bbfs.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 91 reads
posted
26 / 26

knowing how old you are.  Many Kgirls are DDG IMO all the way up to 40 years old and sometimes beyond.  Service is ALWAYS better with the older girls as will.  OTOH, I can appreciate that a monger in his 20's is probably not going to want to fuck a girl a few year younger than his mom.  Guys I know in their 30's seem okay with girls near their own age, so I would recommend different girls depending on the age of person asking.  If you care to state your age, I will take my best shot at answering your question if I can, but to be honest, if you're under 30, you might be better off asking someone else here who is also in their 20's.  There are quite a few.  Maybe start a new thread where you ask who are the DDG girls and then ask for respondents to include their age, or else just a general statement like "over-40", "over-50", etc.  

 
Also remember that DDG has a unique meaning to who is responding.  For me, I like slender to skinny Kgirls, with C-cup upgrades.  Those that are full-figured or "curvy" will hardly ever get a 10 from me for looks.  Conversely, there are guys who like curvy girls who have plump butts just made for Doggy.  For the guys that like this look, these girls who are 8's and 9's for me, are 10's for them.  We all know a beautiful woman when we see one, but the degree of beauty they have is a bit subjective depending on the tastes of the observer.

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