among the more popular k-girls.  Anyone notice a shift downward in performance among some of the more popular K-girls.  I seem to see more "5" these days although appearance scores are still around "8"

For DMV my view is that 2020 seems to be a lower average performance but it also seems many of the top performers (for me that means going back to mid 2017 and prior) simply are not coming though that I see. I think that also holds for looks.

how each individual grades.  For a guy who has never given a score above a 7, a five is like an 8 from a guy who has given a 10, so its still a girl I might see.   A guy who gives a 5 and his top score so far is a 9 is a different story.  There is no continuity from reviewer to reviewer to be able to treat all scores equally.  Although I haven't noticed a drop-off in the level of service, I have noticed there are a raft of new reviewers that have just started with TER since they came back online in December.  I'm wary of new reviewers who do not participate on this board where they can get a sense of the traditional views on scoring.  I'm an outlier with my own scoring system, so I'm part of the problem, unless you know how to read my scoring system.  If you do, its much easier to pigeon-hole a girl at a certain level than trying to guess what my numerical scores mean like I have to do with most others.  When a girl gets over 30 reviews, we can count on the average score to be fairly accurate, in my experience, but that takes some time.  

The meaning of an average score varies a bit, too.  

My answer is going to be a two parter

In my experience, if a girl has a fairly large enough sample size, and averages around 6 or 7 and has a few of 9s or 10s... these 9s and 10s are a product of ymmv, kool aid drinkers, shills and fake reviews.  

It’s in this part of the game where numbers become less meaningful than the content. Looking for trends in the content can reveal a lot.

to be very engaging with Kgirls, even when there is a language barrier of sorts. It sometimes takes a lot of effort to get them to be at ease and open up their personality when its the first time seeing them, but when you're successful, you find yourself in the middle of a much better session than what the reviews said.  I have said this here before, "You often get out of a session what you bring to it.  If you're energetic, upbeat and fun, the girls will usually respond in kind.  If you're the fourth or fifth guy of the day, make yourself stand out from the crowd and she will want to reciprocate rather than view you as just another guy on the assembly line. As you say, YMMV girls often have a lot of reserve energy they are not wasting on guys who are boring.  Make it fun for them, and they will make it fun for you.  You can turn a 6 into a 9.  

It probably depends on your patience as well.

the average score, I was talking about the TER average in the bold type.  If a girl has over 30 reviews and has managed to keep her average at least at 8.0, she's worthy of visit for me.  I will even check some out down to  7.5 if they have enough reviews that are 8's and 9's from veteran reviewers, but the average has been pulled down by a bunch of 6's and 7's from new reviewers.  

This is why a girl that keeps fucking the 10th guy of the day with the same energy she fucked the first guy  of the day is a keeper and a Jerry Rice of kgirls.

I’ve been working with Koreans in the office and in the field here in the US, remotely and sometimes in Korea for decades. Great friends and some of the hardest working people on the planet. So when I started seeing kgirls getting along with them always felt pretty natural.

feeling like you're getting your answer or not?

I tend to see established and older providers who mostly started off their work in the LA area where there were certain expectations and those expectations were passed down to other kgirls.  Hence, the consistent high level of service that we're all accustomed to experience.  Perhaps, the "instruction manual" is no longer being passed down and the newer k-girls just have to learn on their own and eventually they fall into that "average" performance.  Aside from the sexual aspect of performance, the list of legends I know would always help me to dress and undress, a light kiss coming and going, etc. that add to the overall experience with a k-girl that I would rack 7 or better.

I tend to get consistently good performance through repeat visits.  usually the second visit they are more comfortable with me and open up more.  I don't venture out much to meet new providers unless I lose one of my regulars which is happening alot lately (Mindy, Cari, Taylor, EJ and Gi-L).  So now I'm force to look for new ones through TER reviews and its pretty much hit or mix experience.

Have you seen the lastest reviews of Ivey?  I did read your review and its like night and day performance

Fortunately, my regulars are still in the high level of performance.  I tend to see my regulars multiple times and so they are very comfy with me.  Now its getting to the point with one of my regulars that I'm not getting the same level of service as when we first met.  Is it because she is taking advantage of my repeat business and she knows I will always repeat...maybe.  

so here's what I do to get her back on track . . . .

Sometimes they start to take you for granted. It happens. It’s usually fixable. But there are a good number of exceptions.

Just to clarify, are you still (or have recently seen) Ivey and see that decline personally or is it that you're just seeing the rating drop in the new reviews. Not clear if you're saying you agree with the latest review rating or not for your scoring.

Ivey was on my radar and I was monitoring her reviews.  It may be that the agency was using her photos to attract customers, but doesn't really matter now cuz I've lost interest in seeing her.

Kmutants with bloated guts that looked like an alien about to burst.  So people either gave a 9 or 8. 8 meant mediocre like a potato face for looks or sex skills like a civie chick.  So no one gave anything less then 8 to not hurt the girls business or risk getting black listed

I don't think the review stats really support the claim here.

This sounds like it may be referring to the AMP scene.

Literally, there wasnt a single mention of AMP scene here.

I thought you had poor reading comprehension? 🤣

True. But by the simple act of context switching you could make the observation significantly closer to true. Thus my statement. “Sounds like it may be” is not the same as claiming that the comment being referenced is definitely saying what I’m saying it “sounds like”.

Nah, only I have poor reading comprehension and only I bring AMP in conversations that have nothing to do with them.  

So you simply assumed it was referring to amp scene, I see.

Keep working on it. It’s good that you’re asking questions.

cause like when i started kho banging in those beginning years in the Kho Prime timeline i bang in everyone gave either a 9 or 8 or just didn't review.  guys just didnt give anything like a 5.  heck i remember i gave this one chick who had a manface a 5 or something and her manbitchs started PMing and calling me a asshole etc.  back in those days TER had an over inflated review system.  so for me i didn't use the review rating that much.  i just PMed long time reviewers directly to get the truth of the kho being a monster or not.   Or just called the bookers that i had long time relationship with and they were pretty much straight with me and told me if the girl was a kfatso or kgrannie etc.  

The search pulls all reviews in the TER DB -- and I'm pretty sure if you run the search you'll see reviews for each set of parameters going back more than 10 years. I think they span the current and "old days". LOL

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guys that have ONLY seen Kgirls tend to grade on a lower curve than guys who started out seeing indies, and then discovered Kgirls afterward.  Their Kgirl scores seem to be more in line with the scores they were giving indies.  At least they are consistent, which for me, gives their Kgirl scores a little more cred.

Personally, I grade kgirls comparatively to each other.  

Everybody has their own scale and that's what makes the numerical scores pretty much worthless to guys like me.

I would also add that reviews from reviewer who has never seen someone I have seen is a bit of a crap shoot, regardless of score or narrative. When I see reviews from someone that has also seen a few girls I have, now I have a reasonable expectation that I now what they are saying and if we agree.

I give more cred to reviews from a reviewer who has some girls in common with me, and read the content to see if their tastes are similar to mine. When there is no crossover history between the two of you, then as you say, its a crap shoot.

That’s the first thing I look for after reading a positive review; has the reviewer reviewed someone I’ve seen and how do our reviews compare. If they’re similar then I feel comfortable relying on the current review because we have similar standards.