Not looking good for some of the ‘better orgs’ in the Bay Area.
No further comment. Some relevant non-snarky ones by others would be appreciated. If you need examples pm me. But you shouldn’t. Pretty starkly shitty reviews for these places. SagYeah I looked, seems people really don't like much older girls being advertised as young girls in an org that has the strictest screening.
To be fair, at least one of them mentions good bbbj/dt. If service is good, maybe some of these are salvageable. It's not like you see Yuna or Kira for their youthful looks 
Also, the second review of Marie reads a bit too similar to the first one. But maybe that's just me trippin.
The talent in terms of looks isn't that great right now in the bay, it seems. I think Bell is gone now too, and she was considered the best looking one in the bay by many.
Then the guy that was surprised that she was heavier than he though really should look closer. I wonder if he was seeing what he wanted to see rather than what was there.
I don't think that's who sag was talking about. The org Kylie is in isn't considered by anyone the top org. AFAIK.
bored and curious.
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Search the name I mentioned. It's a three letter org.
Did ya see all the new reviews for that 3 letter org? Wow, some good some bad just like six of 'em in the past few hours.
sag
of the org, why not post it. You are always encouraging others to do that. Do you have a different standard for yourself?
Sure. It's LSC. Anyone from the bay understands what the org is and we even passed one of one of the new girl names around.
You sure have a lot of nerve to talk after you promised me to call out org names and still haven't done so. Lol.
Brother Sag,
I'm just a monger but I'm thinking either there's some disappointed mongers out there or there's an org war in effect.
Kira --) I have not partaken as I'm a banned with all orgs with a K preface. That being said, I've sessioned with HaRa and she knocked it outta the park!!! If you say Kira is HOT, that's good enough for me.
Miji --) I recently sessioned with Miji and the other reviews line up with mine.
Ciara --) I sessioned with Ciara a few years ago and if she was a leprechaun, she'd be magically delicious!!! I swear she rode me like a thoroughbred race horse; if that kgirl had a whip, she woulda whipped me to the finish line!!!! And that was round # 1 my friend.
Jesi --) Jesi is one of my faves and her scores are representative of mine.
Bora --) Bora is FUCKING AWESOME.
Zuri --) Zuri is FUCKING AWESOME.
Ellie --) Ellie is many a Bay Area monger's ATF. And justifiably so.
I'm gonna pre-book on Thurs for Fri with Marie at Candy Land; membership has it's privileges!!!!
YMMV
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im gonna pre-book on Thurs for Fri with Marie at Candy Land; membership has it's privileges!!!!
I think thats who this post is about lol. But ya if you want to confirm the reviews on her thats cool.
To me Serina is my recommondation of the new ones at candyland. She has a very positive fun vibe to her, service is above average. Looks are ok. Slim body.
Right now Adela and Serina are my repeaters.
My usuals are Ciara and Yuffie.
Good ruck
Is the Bora you're talking about the same one that tours to San Diego?
I'm not aware of Bora touring SD, but she may be:
that don't know the answer. That's why I asked the question. LOL They have a "Bora" in SD from time to time, but I don't recognize the pictures in the link you posted, but many girls use a different photoshoot in different cities, and in SD, they always blur the face rather than photoshop it, so its difficult to tell of its the same girl.
Girls tend to use their existing pics most of the time.
Identifying girl by same pics is a lot more successful than by name. Do you know how many girls use the same name in Cali? A lot. Lol.
I guess my point is, you should never assume the girl is the same if she uses same name
Hell, we have a legendary Yuna here and you guys have (or had) Yuna in LA. Not the same thing. When your Yuna came over to work here briefly, she changed her name to something else.
Dunno, my friendly Piper, thinking not.
No, his PSE Bora from Viola is not the Bora in SD currently.
There’s always a lot of drama in kgirl land.
Just look at the number and volume of trolls that the forum attracts, for example. Orgs snipe at each other. Girls get snippy about you seeing other girls. Well, the girls can get snippy about a lot of things. But that’s another thread.
And, sometimes there are guys who didn’t get treated the way they thought they deserved and write terrible reviews in revenge.
All you can really do is just laugh about it. Because, at the end of the day (or at the beginning or in the middle or..) you can always go out and get laid by lovely kgirl or two. And then the drama just seems a whole lot less important.
On the other hand, for reasons I’ve never fully understood, some people just love the drama. If that’s you, that’s cool, too.
And sometimes, a non-positive review is simply a representative and truthful review. Especially if trusted mongers who usually give high scores, give a low score. In fact, it's probably the most likely hypothesis.
But we’re talking about a storm of bad reviews. The odds of those being “representative and truthful” are surpassingly low.
This would be more believable if it just randomly began. This org has three new girls, so obviously they have a slew of mostly toftt reviews coming in. And if you noticed, one of the three so far doesnt have any "bad" reviews. Neither do most of the old timers in the org. Sometimes a new toftt or two end up not being up to par....
However, I will say again that I do find one review there quite suspicious. But other than that I don't see much...yet. Orgs warring usually is quite easy to spot, they don't attempt to be subtle. We'll see. I'm not dismissing your hypothesis, but thinking it's some kind of drama is unwarranted so far imo. Just my two humble pennies.
Nobody loves the drama any more than you. But that’s cool. Enjoy your moment.
I don't know why you made it about me. We were discussing reviews, I suggest you stay on topic.
Weekend update.
Didn't make it to Marie yet; got postponed.
Ebkcuties has two new kgirls with no TER profiles. Anyone recognize the glams ? New talents are Trish and Riley.
I'm sure the glams are heavily photoshopped and if even remotely resembling --) eye candy for sure.
My last session with Miji was excellent. I recommend this org; yes your paying a premium but the value is still there; locally.
YMMV
Unfortunately, I can't say the same. EBK is known as one of the worst agencies here, from PO who literally lies and threatens BL, to fake reviews, to advertising on monger forums, to weak talent, to fake pics, to the now-raised prices.
They recently tried starting a sacramento division only to close it within a month because of no demand. They also operate lovings213 in SoCal.
If I had to choose one org in the bay to stay away from, it would be them
Rocketbro and I agree to disagree about EBKbeauties without attacking each other.
He's pro-monger. I'm pro-monger. Back at Nuerotic Donkey, Rocketbro said I'm not helping newbies by recommending EBKbeauties because false advertising is deceptive and I shouldn't support deceptive biz practices. I've been consistently pleased by the Korean beauties who close the Magic Door behind me who are RAs at EBK.
Dunno if 2020LSC is a private club now. For those not members, I apologize for your lack of Candyland. During the Pandemic. I'm a member in good standing. I pre-book for tomorrow afternoon with a kgirl named Marie --) TER UD # 353054. Marie is the flavor of the month at Candyland; and yet her TER reviews are poor and moderate performances. Something's not adding up here...
Is it pro-monger for me to review RAs at a potentially private club? Another monger on another thread said he got in recently as a result of a call from another booker; hmmm. Maybe there's hope still for the mongers of Wonderland who haven't enjoyed the Sexperience at Candyland?
What color is the sky at Wonderland? Surely it is NOT grey?
YMMV
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I wrote a review yesterday but it hasn't been published yet.
Blue skies and happiness. Marie delivered me a full unrushed hour of GFE MSOG pleasure.
She's not fifty. More like late thirties.
She's a GND kgirl. If I met her at Ranch99 I'd consider myself fortunate; she has a unique look and a billion dollars sparkle smile for me. She has a great attitude and aims to please. She's a service queen for those interested.
Booker texted me when I left 'how was she'? I replied that 'I had a full unrushed hour of pleasure with Marie. She need to learn 'merican and rely less on her translator. She could be a legend.'
YMMV
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Service queen? I like that... we need more of these here. I'm worried that we might have lost Yoko with kpleasures closure.
Yoko resurfaced at M in LA...Ive put in a good word for her on the other board.
But it's sad we're bleeding service talent.
From what I have heard $220 hr is pretty much the rate in the SFBA, the good news of course for you guys is that those are among the lowest in the country. Unfortunately the cost of living in the Bay Area is hardly what anyone would call "low" and if the talented girls can make more money elsewhere, can you blame them for leaving for greener pastures?
I can relate to this where it comes to non K-Girls, here in Dallas we are constantly losing our best talent to cities like Chicago and NYC where the girls can charge a LOT more for their services, I remember one Korean Girl (American born, non K-Girl) by the name of Lavie who started in Dallas at $250 hr, I got to see her at $300 hr and she was FANTASTIC, the last I heard about her she was in NYC getting $900 hr, with guys lined up around the block to see her before she retired at the ripe old age of about 25. lol There are several more providers I can think of, of all races that started here, made a good reputation and then left for greener pastures.
Eh idk cost of living has been high here for years and some of these girls been here for years.
There are also girls that prefer working here, even though they live in LA. There's a girl who lives in ktown but comes here to work for couple of weeks. She doesn't like LA clientele.
I guess with LA starting to raising prices with upcharges for msog and bbfs, is what really started widening the chasm.
I think most of us can remember when "independent K-Girl" was an oxymoron. (not to be confused with a regular moron like BLPOS. lol) and ALL the girls worked strictly for one agency and had little to say about when or where they worked. That of course is no longer the case and because of that the girls are free to seek out greener pastures, especially the ones with great reps.
From what I understand between "upcharges" a PSE K-Girl can get up to $400 hr or more, almost twice as much as the going rate of $220 hr in the BA. Multiply that times 40 sessions a week and you are talking some serious motivation to change venues.
Yes... and upcharge trend in LA/Vegas started relatively recently.
Many say we have Jamie (a certain kgirl) to thank for that. Jamie started here and was quite popular. I personally didn't get much of the hype, but then I'm all about service. But yeah she has a nice ass body. Then she went to Vegas and LA and she's getting booked like crazy at 400 bbfs.
Yoko only lasted a day at M it seems. Someone check if there were any roommate causalties, lol.
She can pass for mid-30's.
I have taken leave of LSC just because of Marie. Kind of a 'last straw' thing. If she's under 45, so am I. Your review stands out as a huge question mark in a sea of others whose reviews I could have copied exactly.
C'mon, man, you have an audience, you know.
She could be a legend, not.
There are only about 2 or three good PSE girls in SJ/Pen right now. I'm in with both the orgs, but I'm not in this game to fuck the same girls over and over.. Time to think about some time in Thailand.
sag
Damn, not a service queen either ? Your and my taste in service are pretty similar I think.
Another confirmation that those reviews aren't really drama or some hit pieces.
Is almost always a great idea. Covid has put quite a damper on things. Still, they don’t seem to be seeing an increase in infections. And, though the number of available girls is down significantly from pre-Covid, there still seems to be a good number of options remaining at least for outcall.
It’s been far too long since I visited there. If you go, I hope you’ll let us know how it went.
I think Thailand is still locked down to foreigners. Thai citizens can return but must quarantine for 14 days. I don’t think non-Thais can get in. From what one of my Thai friends tells me that is not expected to change until next year.
Brother Sag and all others concerned,
I stand by my mini and review. I had a great time and would recommend her. If you say AVOID, that's your prerogative. I hope that my review of Marie doesn't taint your opinion of me? Difference strokes for different folks I say brother.
I would love to go to Pattaya; interested in a wing man? I'm just not keen on the two week quarantine.
YMMV
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Hey 2on,
I threw you some snark ‘cause I get the feeling you can roll with me, but no disrespect whatsoever this all is a certain kind of virtual world and we all have different tastes. Cheers bro!
But 30??? I have an optometrist I could recommend. See there I go again!
Sag
I remember Twoon saying Amy (as in, Amy the Angelas roommate from way back and most recently having worked at Caras and AA) is in her 30s. As he would say, I respectfully disagree! Amy is older than that. Probably the same thing with Marie.
I was in Thailand back in February just as all the Covid-19 stuff was beginning. I bought my ticket a month or two earlier. I was thinking about not going, but figured what the heck and I'm glad I went. Ended up spending time in Phuket which later on had some covid restrictions, I think in March or April. Only saw one girl in Phuket and one in Bangkok. There was no action on Koh Yao Yoi, which was fine.
Every now and then I think about living there or just retiring there at some point. It's tempting.
This thread was started by a worthwhile heads up by sagacity. Thanks for that.
So, is this now a thread about Marie?
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