K-girls

not same in OC
standupdude 3632 reads
posted
1 / 33

Is it me or has the quality in San Diego gone down lately?  

There’s an agency I really like but the last three new girls I took a chance on have been meh to bad. They even had good reviews! I trusted some of the reviewers (good track records) who gave 8s and even 9s only to end up in a room with a woman who looked more like an auntie than a hottie.

Did something change or is this just some weird temporary drought? Am I gonna have to drive up to OC or LA from now on?

mattphillips 117 Reviews 151 reads
posted
2 / 33

I think I know which agency you are talking about and I am going through the same thing in OC.  

Its a combination of some guys being too generous and some guys just having plain bad taste in asian girls (probably the older gents).

I wrote a couple reviews that I cant get passed approval because I couldnt go through with sex with a couple OLD and HEAVY women and admins wont let the review post since I didn't sex those providers.

But thats the hobby game. gotta burn some money sometimes.

standupdude 137 reads
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3 / 33

Are the girls going somewhere else?

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 137 reads
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4 / 33

I understand what you try to say but I think OC is getting more popular as other agencies are moving in now.
 
Some of my favorites are in OC. I have never met a K-girl I would away from. Perhaps I am too generous and have no taste. I also don't need to read reviews to know who I want to see.
 
The K-girls are like a box of chocolates. I never know who I am going to get, but they are all chocolates :-&

Nightisdark 120 reads
posted
5 / 33

Ye, OC is nuts compared to before, plus SD has Queenie, legend.

Nightisdark 106 reads
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7 / 33
mattphillips 117 Reviews 132 reads
posted
8 / 33

So it is the same in OC or not?  You dont make sense.  If all kgirls are good in your opinion, then the SD ones are too.  So instead of "not same in OC" ,  you should have titled, "don't hate SD kgirls; all kgirls are good, even SD ones".

It does seem there are more agencies in OC, but only a few good providers have been produced from them.  Emma, Ha mi and Nana.

Further, I was mainly referring to a single agency that operates in SD and OC and their talent has been WAAAYY off par BOTH in SD AND IN OC.  So yes, "THE SAME IN OC".

brchao 52 Reviews 138 reads
posted
9 / 33

This SD/OC org definitely took some losses this year.  Lost Pink to LA earlier this year, Bonnie ditched us last week for LA, Flynn is on vacation (hoping temporarily), Tien is gone, Snow barely worked in OC during her stint.  I assume Hiroko retired.  We still got Tila, the last one of the girls from the previous rotation.  Their replacements Hai, Ivy and Mei Mei are solid but not spectacular.

Lotsoffun 85 Reviews 134 reads
posted
10 / 33

Is it a chicken or egg thing? Does SD support the girls with constant bookings or are the girls so "average" that they are not worth booking???In the past some OC girls worked SD also. Not now. Yes, Queenie was an exception. I'd like to see Flynn in SD. Even Ivy too.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 141 reads
posted
11 / 33

cyclical based purely on economics.  Top girls go where the money is.  If things start to slow down, not just in SD but anywhere, the girls will go somewhere that's busier.  When they hear things have picked up in SD, they will be back.  

 
The other issue is the same one that is affecting OC and LA.   There are a lot of guys pressuring girls for BBFS all over SoCal.  Top girls that usually tour here are passing on coming here right now because they don't want to have to deal with this.  I know of several top girls (one is in Las Vegas right now when she was supposed to tour SoCal) that just won't come here anymore.  Girls deal with this in two ways.  They leave and go to another city, or they blacklist you.  Once girl in LA that is very popular has blacklisted over 100 guys in the past year.  Pressuring girls for BBFS just makes them hate their job, so guess what happens for the rest of us?  We notice a drop in the quality of the service as a result of their attitude.  This unintended consequence is probably what you're experiencing.  If guys will stop badgering these girls for off-menu services, their attitude will get better and it will be reflected by an noticeable increase in the quality of the service.  The girl that blacklisted 100+ guys loves her job now and is giving great sessions, all because she doesn't have to deal with the douchebags anymore.  I'm not judging guys who like BBFS, I'm just saying don't be a dick about it.  Ask politely once, and if she says no, move on and have fun.  If you spend the whole hour fighting with her trying to get BBFS, it going to make it seem like two hours for both of you, and not in a good way.  I don't want to be the next customer after she has to deal with some dickwad like this, but I'm smart enough not to blame it on the girl if she's still pissed about the guy that just left before me.  

Lotsoffun 85 Reviews 141 reads
posted
12 / 33

Every post you reply to has "bbfs" as the problem. Maybe the bookers have other issues. Maybe the girls can make more elsewhere. Maybe guys don't understand why an OC girl is $260 in OC and $300 in SD. Look, I'm happy to pay more. I'd like some beauty. 🙏😘😉

brchao 52 Reviews 170 reads
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13 / 33

Agree that unrelenting bbfs requests piss kgirls off more than an empty soju bottle but the complaint is not about drop in service but more about poor rotation of girls through socal.  In OC, we lost Pink, Bonnie and Hami to LA which has an even bigger bbfs problem.  LA girls are jetting to the bay area, which has a worse bbfs trend than socal.  So while kgirls might hate the bbfs requests, they hate not making money even more.  OC and SD has historically been slow unless you are Snow or Flynn that has a loyal following.  It is simply a case of girls moving on to greener (literally) pastures and OC/SD org owner unable to replenish the roster.  But hey, OC will always have plenty of choice on HX.

emor1000 114 Reviews 122 reads
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14 / 33

In CDLs defense, he has been in the game for a good while and in my opinion, has the pulse of the ladies....so when it comes to the bringing up the BBFS topic each time.... it’s to spread the word that the subject is having a negative impact on our hobby and sooner or later will affect us in one way or another.  So spreading word every opportunity will be the only way the message will get into our thick perverted minds.....  

Of course, this is just my observation and opinion.....go on CDL.... do your thing.... I respect it.

standupdude 144 reads
posted
15 / 33

Is Bonnie in LA? Figured she was back in DC.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 138 reads
posted
16 / 33

If you think only Emma, Ha mi, and Nana are good, then it's true few girls in OC can compare.  
 
No offense meant if my dumb joke bothered you. Many times I posted like a jackass if a K-girl made me happy.
 
And I was not just responding to you but to everyone to say I don't notice a drop in quality while also noticing an increase in quantity in OC and LA. I don't focus on a few select girls or an agency and I am easy to please so that was my point of view. There are still a few girls I repeat like crazy with in both LA and OC so my happiness level hasn't dropped.

assholesung1 134 reads
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17 / 33

I know which booker you guys are talking about.
That booker's problem is some of his girls he's using some other previous girls' Ads to pretend the girls are actually working.
Especially those new girls without reputation.  
So you can may see girls with many likes on CV but they are actually just new to be there.
I could be wrong tho, it could those girls' "boss'" problem instead the booker's.

I also heard from OC girls on how business works in OC. One is the girl needs to get certain amount of clients each day/week. If she doesn't hit the number for days (maybe weeks), the booker would rotate the girl. Another case is the girl reaches agreement beforehand that she doesn't need to rotate; therefore, she would just stay for 3 months.
Sometimes we see OC and LA girls are switching could be the above reason or it could be simply that there's no available room the girl needs to work in the other city temporarily.

I've heard you guys talk about the BBFS problem. However, I heard from a girl who've worked in Vegas, LA, and OC.  
She said she loves LA most, because of how close it is to K-town. OC is not too bad, too. But Vegas is the city she doesn't like most. The reason is easy--Vegas needs to do outcall.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 107 reads
posted
18 / 33

If you consult the top bookers, they will tell you the same thing I posted.  I think the bookers have their finger on the pulse of the Kgirl scene, too.

mattphillips 117 Reviews 109 reads
posted
19 / 33

i can confirm BBFS pressure is an issue to providers.  i saw one of my regulars yesterday and she brought it up.  she said not only is the pressure from the bbfs seekers overwhelming, it caused rifts between the roommates.  seems like the dirtbags are playing dirty by claiming they got it from a different girl and dropping names while with other girls.  in essence, "i got bbfs from so and so, why not from you."  that caused drama between coworkers and that is why there was a shakeup  in lineups.

she also told me that one of the coworkers confirmed she did a BBFS!!  

BBFS is definitely an issue and I'll no longer be seeing any longer tenured kgirl and I will be asking for the cover for all activities.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 130 reads
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20 / 33

that its ironic that some of the same douches will respect a girl's wishes who says no FIV or no CIM, but will not take no for an answer when it comes to BBFS.   There is no depth these guys won't sink to in order to pressure a girl for BBFS, as demonstrated by your roommate anecdote.  But its also ironic that a Kgirl would take the work of a john that claimed he got BBFS from another girl than to take the word of the girl who denies it.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 112 reads
posted
21 / 33

to go from SD to OC.  The incalls there are mostly near JWA with good freeway access.  A few are up near Tustin, only another 5 minutes away.  All things being equal, from OC, I would rather drive to SD than LA if my only purpose was to see a girl, but I see a lot of LA girls because my work takes me there.   A few of the agencies also have reciprocity, so you don't need to get screened again.  Ask your booker about it.  

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 133 reads
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22 / 33

It should be obvious if you look for her pic in LA, right?  
 
If you want to drive to LA to see her, PM someone but me to confirm. I know nothing.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 316 reads
posted
23 / 33

I don't doubt some got a lot of pressure. It sucks to hear this kind of thing. But safety first is always smart.
 
Still, before we scare everyone into thinking BBFS is prevalent with K-girls, or the longer tenured ones, it's not a catch all. While it's good to condemn these guys, I only post so much to clarify some things. I apologize to all for typing crap like a Yoda lately.
 
My impression is that there are still safety first gals out there. I don't believe many are doing BB with most K-girls, as Diva Diver also said he rarely got denied. Those guys can say I am clueless but I can't take them seriously, even the gods who hint at more that are not named. After all, I have read who they named and the way they talked among themselves. I can put two and two together.
 
Only thing I am unhappy about is the trouble they cause to the other girls or bring the attention of LE because it can affect me. Did you know they reveal a location before? Other than that, I have not felt their impact with the ones I am seeing.
 
I see the gals I feel safe with, and that's that. So I haven't lost my joy or changed my way since day two (day one was not good).

-- Modified on 10/27/2017 8:12:52 PM

brchao 52 Reviews 126 reads
posted
24 / 33

I heard it's even worse up in the bay area, for a lot providers, condoms are offered and all you have to do is shake your head and it's off to bbfs land. The girl that CDL mentioned (one that BL 100+ guys), reason she got so many requests was 1) she's unbelievably hot. 2) there was a rumor that she allowed bbfs to repeat customers.  From what I gather, the girls that offer bbfs are either the older girls that frankly should've retired years ago but blew their money somewhere and new girls from korea that doesn't know any better (perhaps condoms are optional in Korea?).  All we need is one STD scare for this whole thing to blow out of control.

It also begs the question, if bbfs is such an issue to providers, why is the bay area continuously stacked with girls.  It wasn't like this before, shit, I remember an era when CBJ is the standard.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 132 reads
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25 / 33

Personally those new girls are who I would want to speak with. Sometimes I repeated mainly to tell a favorite new girl to be careful because I forgot to tell her the first time. I was glad to see they nodded and never saw their name. This was when I first heard about those guys and was concerned for the girls so I acted. Now I am chilled again.
 
Few if any new girls I saw were named whether I talked to them or not. Not all new girls are easy. Or perhaps I saw mostly unpopular girls. There are also ways to see if she is safety conscious. If I pay attention, I will know. I asked CDL before in another thread to make sure I was not missing anything. I agreed with everything he said.
 
Anyway, I don't have a problem with BB itself because not many can be successful with many gals here in LA. I also believe some guys are responsible and get tested regularly as well as not forcing her. I don't judge those guys and gals. This hobby carries risk so I try to see more safe gals and be safe myself. And I guess I am already nut to be in this hobby in the first place. Not saying all gentlemen are, but I sure am a little crazy.
 
The problem is naming her publicly where worse guys lurk. Guys who are disrespectful, have high risk of STD, or bring attention of the law because they are eager to trade tips. I get upset when I hear about guys who keep forcing it.

-- Modified on 10/27/2017 9:50:27 PM

brchao 52 Reviews 128 reads
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26 / 33

From a living standpoint, every city has it's own attractions.  Some girls like LA because of ktown and the fact they don't need English to comfortably stay there, some like OC to get away from the traffic and hustle n bustle of LA, some like the bay because the cooler weather, some like Vegas because of the night life.  One thing is they all like money and will easily sacrifice better living style for greater earning potential.

When I used to live in S.F. years ago, it was almost impossible to get a LA kgirl to come up there.  Norcal is cheaper ($$ at the time) while LA is $$.5 and there was ample demand in LA.  Over the years, I assume all the tech money and rising rates in the bay, LA girls are rushing up there to work.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 119 reads
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27 / 33

CV ads work since you have singled out a particular booker for your condemnation for "likes" that carry over from one girl to another.   Like ANY advertising medium, the longer you commit for, the cheaper the ad becomes per week and month. ALL bookers that I know buy a "space" on CV and then change  the content periodically to reflect whatever girls happen to be working currently.  The "likes" accumulate for he "space", not a particular girl.  

 
You must be a newbie, because I don't know of any legitimate hobbyists that even consider "likes" in their decision of who to see.   It's likely that a large percentage are put up by non-hobbyists and 16 yo's that like ogling the photos. Reviews on TER is where you want to get your Intel.  "likes" are for fools.

 
Modified to correct typos

-- Modified on 10/28/2017 10:59:27 AM

Nightisdark 101 reads
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28 / 33
mattphillips 117 Reviews 181 reads
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29 / 33

There isn't as much "STDs are scary education" as there is here in the US.  STDs are almost thought of on par with the FLU in Korea as far as severity.  The owners of each operation should hand out STD education material to the girls with pictures and illustrations of what can happen.  

Then there's the general obsession with money that is inherent in koreans which is matched only by the chinese.  Not only are koreans obsessed with money, they are also gullible and naive.  If they hear through the grapevine that some provider is making 2k a day providing BBFS, they will not hesitate to copy cat.

Lotsoffun 85 Reviews 131 reads
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30 / 33

Wow!!! The drought is over in SD... new reviews show that the bookers listened to all of us.

standupdude 138 reads
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31 / 33

Uhhh why do you have three different sets of ratings for the same girl? Two of the reviews are even under the same name?

Lotsoffun 85 Reviews 121 reads
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32 / 33

Why don't you have the gonads to post under a name you use to review providers?

standupdude 107 reads
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33 / 33

For obvious reasons I don't want bookers knowing that I'm complaining about them. Easy way to get blacklisted.

So I gave you an honest answer, but if you don't want to answer my question I understand.

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