I simply provided my viewpoint based on my experience.
Of course, I’m not Asian. But I have been working with Asian companies (primarily Japanese and Korean) since the 80’s. I’ve traveled many times through Asia to work with my colleagues, customers and partners.
My observation is based on working and socializing with Asian women in their native countries. Again, primarily Japanese and Korean.
To me, multiple viewpoints have significant value. I shared mine in that spirit. Any and all are free to interpret what I’ve shared any way they want.
How do one go about getting of the list, if he got blacklisted for a gaffe that may have come across as offensive or hurtful by the provider?
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While there is no real step by step guide, there are some general guidelines to maybe plead your case.
But I suspect many will be skeptical of the "gaffe" claim and will want to know the situation to give you some kind of advise...
Ahh BL
Answer: if you're willing, apologize to all concerned parties and time heals all sore losers.
Here's my story --) I had a few magnificent sessions with a kgirl at AsianAngels org. She gave me her digits. I texted too much. It annoyed her. I drunk texted her. She cut me off...and she told AsianAngels and sister affiliated orgs booker to cut me off too...
The kgirl and I have since kissed and made up but I'm still BL with booker.
Here's another story --)
I had a few magnificent sessions with a kgirl at SweetAngels org. She gave me her digits. She jacked me up one night and l left angry and arguments followed with her and her booker...
I'd rather not go into detail as it may negatively affect their biZ. I have not sessioned with her since.
Lessons learned is to not drunk text and if I get off menu services to not be insulted when things don't exactly go my way NEXT TIME.
So OP, what's YOUR story??!!
YEMV
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I don't think I am on the booker's shit list, but I have not tried booking any sessions with others at that agency. The booker was the one who told me and he or she does not know what happened. I told him it was a gaffe and I apologize to anyone offended.
I think it has to do with the text I sent after my session mentioning that I am going to get tested for STD after going raw with her. The other thing could be my body language …. but I am not sure if she noticed or it showed, but I was little frustrated when session started late on the org part and she had to rush me to the shower early to get back on schedule, but overall it was a good session. When I am annoyed I just sigh and roll eyes.
And I read a couple of her TER reviews where mongers mentioned going bareback with her, I never intended it to come across maliciously.
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That WAS a highly offensive thing to say. What was the point of saying it if it wasn't to denigrate her? Why not just keep your mouth shut and go get the test? I can't think of a single Kgirl I know that would not BL you for saying that to her face, so you need to ask yourself next time before opening your mouth if saying something like this is going to change anything. If not, then you gain nothing by making yourself an asshole to her.
With that said, there are two kinds of Blacklists . . . . Individual girl, and agency-wide. This sounds like the kind of offense that would leave you only blacklisted by this particular girl. You should request another girl at this agency just to make sure you are still okay with the booker. And for God's sake, don't insult the next ones, or you can end up being blacklisted from the whole agency on an installment plan.
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Thank dude! Greatly appreciate the feedback. Yeah, I really screwed up a good thing. I am not new to this but have been retired from hobbying for over 10 years after finding relationship with a civvie that recently ended in divorce. I have a business and military background, so I am used to straight talk and being blunt. However I forgot to mindful of her culture and most important… her feelings. I once told her I wanted look her up take her down to Hong Kong with me when I am in Asia for business or my reserve unit deploys to Korea and she was ecstatic about it. Aside from the slip up, I treated her with the up most respect.
Today I had a session with another provider known for her service at another agency and what I got was not even half as good.
usually have a certain awkwardness, especially when you are used to the comfort zone of a regular. I have made plenty of mistakes myself when I was new at this, but we learn from them. I used to compare it the Bill Murry movie, "Groundhog Day", where he gets to relive his day and correct his mistakes one at t time until he is perfect. The only difference is we often have to correct our past mistakes with a DIFFERENT girl, because the one we offended has soured on us (I only had ONE in 13 years that refused to see me again. If you're careful, this will be your only one.), but with each mistake, we hopefully learn a little more about Korean culture and specifically how Kgirls think. I am ex-military, too, so I understand about being blunt. It's both a blessing AND a curse. Lol
I am hoping to find a way to redeem myself and make things right. I already apologized but have not heard back. I am planning to take a couple of weeks off before trying to make contact with the org or her to let it cool down.
to take a break, but I have found trying to get Kgirls to forgive and forget is like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube. Once it's out, that's it. Once the connection has broken down over a perceived insult or slight, you will still always be welcomed back as a customer (providing the BL was not for being rough or abusive physically), but the feeling is never quite the same. I have been where you are. They have long memories and most cannot forget what you said. Nevertheless, good luck in finding an exception.
I have yet to meet a kgirl (who wasn’t brand new) who was long on trust.
Orgs and managers may be willing to give a second chance. You might even see the girl again. But as CDL says, getting her to actually forgive and grant the same level of trust you might have had before is like hoping for a unicorn, in my experience. I’d strongly suggest crossing that girl off your list.
I did work through a trust issue with my ATF once. But it was over what another monger claimed I said about her. So she yelled at me a bit and then realized I wasn’t lying to her. That turned into one of our most intense sessions. So, not a problem, really.
Koreans, especially Korean women, can really hold a grudge. Further, if they’ve told anyone that they are mad at or offended by you, they will lose face if they ever change their mind.
Net? Unless she really likes you, there’s not much chance she’ll ever forgive you. So, I’d say it’s time to move on.
I am Asian by the way and I don’t see it as losing face by changing one’s mind. Unless she announced it everyone in her group, the only people who know is confined to her and the PO. I have never sessioned with anyone else in her org. And I don’t see her as the type who creates her drama.
My goal is to see her again and take it one day or session at time by enjoying each other company.
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Nice to see our resident non-Asian Asian expert lecture an Asian on Asian culture.
What a mouthful 
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Nice to see our resident non-Asian Asian expert lecture an Asian on Asian culture.
What a mouthful
.So you don't know that Yons8 is one of the resident trolls on this board with no experience and no reviews that likes to fuck with the guys who are getting the pussy that HE'S not getting. Such is the way of the yutes these days.
He was actually addressing his remark, to useyrhead, one of the posters here with real experience and real intel about Kgirls. Most of the trolls here have little real Kgirl experience and save up their money for massage parlor handjobs. If they don't have enough for a rub-and-tug, they will get a few bucks from mom and dad and buy some lotion. I don't have to explain the rest. Lol Make sure you're viewing the board in "tree" mode rather than "flat" mode and it will be easier to tell who is responding to whom.
I simply provided my viewpoint based on my experience.
Of course, I’m not Asian. But I have been working with Asian companies (primarily Japanese and Korean) since the 80’s. I’ve traveled many times through Asia to work with my colleagues, customers and partners.
My observation is based on working and socializing with Asian women in their native countries. Again, primarily Japanese and Korean.
To me, multiple viewpoints have significant value. I shared mine in that spirit. Any and all are free to interpret what I’ve shared any way they want.
No worries, I was actually referring to User as he likes to sprinkle in his "lectures" from time to time.
Thanks for filling in the detail. Some posters will post a very vaguely described problem and then not follow up.