Most agencies remain open but customer base is drying up. Very slow.
Will any agency be open now?
Will any agency be open now?
is an "essential service." She's just not allowed to have more than nine guys in the room at once.
Haven't checked around LA, but in OC, as long as there are girls that want to work, bookers will take appointments. I've only seen one webpage for LA that said they were closing completely, and I can't even remember which house it was, but saw it while checking out new reviews here on TER. Are there more?
SecretKarden is closed (Amber, Lora, etc)
That booker has no girls that want to work. In booking for this coming Tuesday and Thursday, the bookers told me as long as there are girls who want to work, they are open. The ones that have a little money saved up are in a position to take some time off. Others MUST work, and the agency owners want to keep their share of the income going to pay the rent, expenses, etc. Some girls have told me they are getting their regulars, but new customers are rare the last few weeks, so that metric is making is slow for most of them. This makes it a good time to see someone new for each of us because they are likely to give their best effort to entice us to come back. I've had some great sessions the past few weeks.
Its common among some houses to leave ads up on a girl's day off, and some leave them up for five or six days while a girl has her period if she's coming back afterward. Just because photos might be up for a particular girl doesn't mean she is there THAT day. Check with the booker. If she's not available, its okay to ask when she's coming back. Might be the next day if she's only taking a day off for rest.
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Anybody know what the LA AAMPs need to break even?
Hopefully it was someone with at least half a clue as to what they were talking about, but somehow I doubt that was the case.
There was a guy who worked for many of the AMPs in NYC for many years running their ads, doing photo shoots, etc.. He was very friendly with almost all of the owners and many of the girls. He visited his clients frequently to pick up the weekly ad payments and would hang out and schmooze if he wasn't in a hurry to get to the next place. They would sometimes ask him for help and advice on business matters. He claimed that he was never a customer of his business clients in order to avoid conflicts.
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For many years he had that blog / ad site but shut it down a year or two before the first wave of NYC AMP busts. He was hired as a consultant to some people doing a documentary on the NYC scene. Because he knew the owners, he could help with intros. He was quoted directly in several newspapers after the busts. (Journalists knew who he was from his blog, even though he had shut it down.) Some of the investigative reporters did their own estimates after the busts (some rental agreements and other info might have been evidence in some of the court cases or they got the info from other public records or via interviews).
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Those combined and overlapping sources estimated the average AMP needed 10-11 customers per 24 hrs to break even and anything after that was profit. (Many of the places were 24/7 or practically 24/7 back then.)
Hopefully it was someone with at least half a clue as to what they were talking about, but somehow I doubt that was the case.
I am not doubting his conclusions (ok, maybe I am a bit), but I would love to see just HOW he came up with these numbers. It's been my experience that "self proclaimed experts" are rarely as expert as they claim.
There are also AMPs of many different sizes, I remember in Atlanta's hey day of AMPs, with literally dozens of them just south of the airport in Jonesville and dozens more scattered around the Atlanta metro area, there were many AMPs that had staffs averaging 6-8 girls at any given moment, obviously their break even point was a lot higher than a smaller AMP with a staff of two. This is/was also the case in many other states. I have seen AMPs staffed with a single girl, who's break even point was more like 2 customers per day, and I have seen AMPs who most likely needed 20 customers a day to break even
Claiming that the "average" AMP needs 10-11 customers a day to break even is such a broad statement that even if true (which I don't concede) it's like saying the "average" price of a home in the USA is $235,898. It's just NOT very useful information even in the unlikely event it's true. Now if he had claimed that the average AMP needs 3.23 customers per day, per girl employed that "might" actually be useful information if true. I actually just pulled that number out of my ass, but it's likely to be just as accurate as the numbers being quoted by this so-called expert. Even then that wouldn't account for some spas that employ two 12 hour shifts of girl and others who have all the girls on call 24 hours a day who sleep during slow periods, and still other AMPs who have set hours of 10, 12, or even 18 "business hours" each day. Lots of variables, way too many to just make blanket assumptions.
Right. As long as the reduced traffic is covering the variable costs and some of the fixed costs it make some sense to stay open -- you shift from profit maximizing to loss minimizing during the slow period.
No idea about the LA AAMPs but the one's I've seen in the DMV and Toronto areas look like they rent under $3000/month. Add a couple/few hundred for just having anyone there -- heating/AC, some lights, some water running, condo fees...
Basically if you can generate about $150 a day you have your cost covered. At the current rates that is one or two sessions.
Most agencies remain open but customer base is drying up. Very slow.
Will any agency be open now?
posting up M's girls all the time?
The girls are there but the mongers aren't.
appear to be located west of DTLA according to daily report from the Los Angeles County Public Health. West Hollywood, Hancock Park, Manhattan Beach are just a few examples.