The other thread I think cleared up the confusion about the waive program and any changes to getting visas but I suspect most here are like me and know very little about the waiver program. The link has some interesting facts in it.
For instance, most think the girls coming on the 90 day program have a visa -- they might but the don't need to. They really only need to complete an online application to visit under the waiver program and don't need to apply for any visa. What's kind of interesting is that the application approval is valid for two years. It's not at all clear that the 90 days is limited to just 90 days during the 2 year time period -- I'm sure there's some protocol/law somewhere on that but sure looks like the girls can come for 90 days, go home and come back a little later for another 90 days. There also didn't seem to be anything suggesting that once expired some cool down period was in effect so the girls could renew and only see the delay related to the approval of the application.two 90-day visits out of the same 2-year application approval, but if they try for three, they are usually told to wait until the expiration of the first 2 years, and then apply again. I'm in contact with a few girls in Korea that have been here twice already and must wait to come back, and this is what they're telling me. The officials get suspicious of someone wanting to come for three 90-day visits on one 2-year visa waiver that they might be doing some kind of business or work here. You think? Apparently, not all government workers are idiots as I always thought from my own experiences. Lol
However, if they have relatives here and have a physical address where they will be staying, they can get up to a year on the two-year waiver. Needless to say, there is a cottage industry no one speaks of much of Korean resident families that provide a physical address and "relative" status for a modest monthly payment (I have been told between $500 and $1000 - modest in terms of Kgirl income) from the working girl, so that they qualify for the longer stay. What's ironic is that the girls that do this and stay a year legally seem more likely to overstay, violating their visa waiver, than the 90-day wonders.
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I suggested we should adopt an 18yo female Korean refugee. It worked for Woody Allen, but not me.
For instance, most think the girls coming on the 90 day program have a visa -- they might but the don't need to. They really only need to complete an online application to visit under the waiver program and don't need to apply for any visa.
What's kind of interesting is that the application approval is valid for two years. It's not at all clear that the 90 days is limited to just 90 days during the 2 year time period -- I'm sure there's some protocol/law somewhere on that but sure looks like the girls can come for 90 days, go home and come back a little later for another 90 days. There also didn't seem to be anything suggesting that once expired some cool down period was in effect so the girls could renew and only see the delay related to the approval of the application.
Did you actually get stupider during your last time out?
Travel permit, not a credit card. We actually pay with American Express.
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she was probably misled by that MasterCard commercial, a new kind of credit line for the hobbyists: the MistressCard.
She could just be a blithering moron, and an annoying one at that.
or at least only semi-functionally literate.
just encourages her to be more annoying next time. GaG has known her longer than me, so I would defer to whatever he would recommend.
their 90 days limit, like around 10 yrs. Yes, 10 yrs I know she will be banned from reentering the country for 10 yrs. Will immigration just give her a lecture and then send her on her way back home? Some countries do impose a fine for overstaying or maybe, even jail time.
Doesn't appear to be any financial penalties. See the link below.
There is an interesting bullet on the page related to trafficking:
"...were a victim of trafficking who can show that the trafficking was at least one central reason for your unlawful presence"
Not quite sure what the legal interpretation is here but does seem to suggest if any of the girls are caught claiming some element of trafficking made it very difficult to leave, even if they voluntarily came to the states, might leave the door open to returning sooner than the barred from re-entry periods dictate. And I has been pointed out, at least in some cases the plea of trafficking might allow permanent status -- or at least freedom and no worries with INS.
If they were eastern European, Trump would excuse them and just marry em. So I can't think the penalty is awfully harsh.