Hi, guys,
My fave org just served me up a red candy in a blue wrapper. That's my play on words for: Goddammit, I'm done with getting to the door and seeing a falsely advertised product! When the age misses by AT LEAST TEN YEARS in the wrong direction and she's got cellulite on her thighs which was NOT in the photos and the face doesn't even match, fuck that. Now orgs I rely on are in that game. Is it Covid? Are we really that stupid or thinking so solidly with the little head that they think it's all good? I don't have dot-com income. I value my sessions. When one has had the experiences I have with an org and then that org doesn't have the class not to bait and switch you, it's time to put my wallet back in my pocket and start dating five-finger Lucy for a while. I'm livid. Flame away. sagI feel you bro.
Are you going to write a review and out 'red candy kgirl in a blue wrapper' bro?
Funny, you were on my mind this week. Earlier in the week, I reached out to PO to inquire about HaRa's much anticipated return. The reply from PO is as follows: 'long vacation, don't know if or when she'll return'. No disappointments with HaRa, eh bro?!
May I make a suggestion Sag? My monger buddy loves Cora! You LSC approved bro?
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of a new girl with no TER reviews? I said it on this board last week . . . . TOFTT is the situation MOST LIKELY to result in a disappointing session. That's why most of the guys I know that put limitations on their hobby budget for whatever reasons (including snoopy wives - lol) are research hounds and almost NEVER TOFTT. Leave the speculative sessions of girls FOTB to the guys that are seeing three girls a week. They can afford to take it on the chin every once in awhile and its not going to be as devastating to them.
...you always give, with a rare 7 here and there. Where are the reviews of your "disappointing sessions" to give your fellow K-mongers a heads-up? If you "take it on the chin every once in a while" why don't you post reviews of those sessions? Maybe you aren't one of those "guys that are seeing three girls a week" as you frequently claim because your post refers to "them" rather than "us." Sounds like a Freudian slip.
I don’t write bad reviews. Too often they result in anTA who had a bad day getting misrepresented.
I DO give feedback to the PO.
That includes not writing a bad review after TOFTT. I stopped doing toftt reviews in the RB days.
But that’s not the point. The girls sites are too often these days filled with milfs calling themselves 20 something.
And yes, I’m LSC approved. Sorry for the candy wrapper analogy. It wasn’t LSC, it was BG San Mateo product.
I will I respond just to smack down the troll, like usual. . . .
Do some research here and you will find posts of mine that completely refute all of your innuendo and speculation. When you only visit here a couple times a month, you can't possibly keep up, partly because you don't see Kgirls and partly because you're not all that bright. Sorry. It is what it is. Every one of your "points" has already been answered by me within the past two months on THIS board. There are posts that break down my scoring system, posts that talk about how I minimize my chances off a bad session, posts explaining I had more disappointing sessions among the 400 reviews I put on AF before they closed up and I started reviewing here. All of my reviews here are since summer of 2015. The five years before that were on AF. There are also posts that explain that I see three girls a week (by now, even YOU should know what my "regular" hobby days are) but there are guys here that see three NEW FOTB girls a week, and that's why I referred to "them" and not "us". I do not see three NEW girls a week who have no reviews. That's just too much speculation for me. I see one NEW girl who is FOTB (no reviews) a month, and that has been said within the last 60 days also. The rest of my three-a-week are repeats and new girls that I have not seen before, but who have reviews. There are posts here that talk about the two types of Kgirl mongers when it comes to their hobbying style. (Well there are three types counting you , the Kgirl monger who doesn't see ANY Kgirls.) The only Freudian slip here is the one you wear under your dress.
If there is a particular review of mine you have additional questions about because you are thinking about seeing her, you are welcome to ask. I won't hold my breath since you don't even see one Kgirl in a year. Bwahahahahaha
Could you possibly be any more of a loser on this board?
...and this is the problem with your approach, when you say "I teach them how to work within the system".
...because your advice is simply "let others get fucked before you". Yet you continue to deny orgs false advertisements, and because theres little complaining heard, orgs get progressively more shameless. This is why my advice is to always be loud and express your disappointment wherever orgs are reading feedback. When everyone gets loud, it can't be ignored. Your 'solution' plays right into the orgs lap. My solution actively discourages business and hence hits the orgs where it actually hurts them- the $, which is the only language they speak.
Relevant Dilbert strip:
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keeping risk at a manageable level that I'm comfortable with. Fortunately, I have a healthy hobby budget, but I still hate throwing away money if I can avoid it. I don't mind spending a lot as long as get value for my money. There is no reason for anyone to "get fucked" consistently. I know many guys that place a premium on the thrill of the chase, are one and done, and move onto the next new girl. These guys KNOW they are taking huge risks, but they don't mind, because they are like diamond miners, and will keep digging hoping to be the one to discover the next big diamond. Even though they expectedly have a high percentage of unsatisfactory sessions, they don't whine, because their hobby style is their OWN choice. My style is to try to mitigate and minimize the chances of a bad session. Nothing is foolproof, so I still get the occasional clunker, but still, I don't whine about it. Retrospectively, in most cases, I could have avoided the clunker if I had done more research, but that is the tedious part of this hobby, and sometimes, I'm as lazy as the guys who do little or no research. The difference is, I know who to blame for my momentary lapse in keeping up my protocols, so there is no point in whining about myself. Blaming it on someone else is just lying to myself and serves no useful purpose. I applaud the risk takers who know how to live on the edge and enjoy it, but I have no use for guys who shouldn't be risk takers who whine when the dice roll against them. You roll the dice, you take what comes up. Limit the risk is my approach because you can't eliminate it completely.
The larger your monger network of hobby bros, the fewer bad sessions you will have. I have had many instances where I have read a few reviews from close hobby bros and PM'd them to ask for more details, only to have them tell me that she is not the style I go for. Great! Just saved $300 bucks because I have been working with some of these guys for years. I know what they like and they know what I like, so I trust the recommendations.
ANYONE who thinks that are "getting fucked" on a regular basis (and not in a GOOD way), definitely has the wrong approach to the Kgirl scene. If you can't suck it up on the bad ones when you see a lot of FOTB girls, then this style is not for you. You are beating your head against the wall and hoping at some point, its not going to hurt anymore when you do it. You are just using the completely wrong approach for your own temperament.
A bunch of nonsense putting blame on mongers again. Why is it mongers fault if the girl is terrible and she has bad reviews? You put blame on mongers not doing research, but are you holding orgs responsible for selling bad product? Nope. Lol.
Tell me why orgs who are aware of girls feedback still continue to employ her?
This is why mongers and orgs will never be on the same side. In case of bad product,the orgs will still want to sell it as muchnas they can, and mongers best course of actions is to AVOID. These do not match and are, in fact, diametrically opposite.
Again, your philosophy is let others get fucked as long as you get yours. Instead of usinh your leverage as an org friend to make mongers misleading less prominent, you instead further encourage such behavior. If you know a girl who gives shitty service, why don't you ask your booker friend why she is still there? But I get it, because YOU don't see her, it's ok. The others you don't care about.
Again I've asked you before, what would you sacrifice to help a newbie monger you've never met. I know the answer you'd provide. Not a gotdamn thing. You value your connections too much to risk losing them, even if deep down you think something is wrong. To each his own, again.
my knowledge daily. Not a day goes by that I fail to get a text from a Newbie asking what to do in a certain situation. Any of them will tell you that I give complete (lengthy) responses with real-world solutions to whatever their problem is. This is called mentoring for real results, not pie-in-the-sky about taking down orgs if we're all willing to wait until hell
freezes over.
To answer your other question, They continue to employ her because they usually have a contract with her for a certain amount of time, usually three weeks.
I HAVE reported MANY substandard girls to bookers, and because I'm a VIP, they will sometimes waive the "house" portion of the donation on the next girl I see with them. I know hundreds of guys that have done this and gotten this. Its not a BFS. They know I'm a Monger that is easy-going and not too critical of Kgirls that are new, so when I DO report a bad experience, they give it a lot of consideration.
From my own experiences with CDL, I can attest to the fact that he does give really helpful advice and does't just give one word answers, but actual examples from his own experiences. I think if a newbie is willing to accept the good news and bad news that comes with this world, CDL is willing to help.
There have been some situations that I've had to deal with recently with regards to a moron here on the board and another board, and CDL definitely took the time to hear out my situation and give his own advice and info on the situation.
I'm glad to hear it. I have no doubts CDL tries to try within the system, but my point was that if there is a point of contention, CDL has shown many times he'll be on the org/girl/booker side rather than the monger, and he values his connections too much.
Did he ever tell you to not write a subpar review because you might be BLd by the booker ?
much in the way of evidence that anyone needs to take sides. You found one disreputable org that just went into business in January in LA that MAY have written four shill reviews, but none others. there are thousands of Kgirl reviews written for girls at SoCal org. You have found an outlier to the rule that most orgs do not engage in fake review writing, especially the larger orgs who have been here for years.
This may be a larger problem in the BA, but not in SoCal, and you have not made a convincing argument to the contrary.
I suggest to all mongers that they adopt my scoring system. They can write honest reviews without ever worrying about what a booker thinks. When I give a 7, either for looks or service, it means "she's BELOW AVERAGE for a Kgirl. You have been warned."
We've been through this about taking sides, once the girl is not good, org will still try to make money and peddle her to the mongers.
This already is bad enough to take sides, as the best course of action for mongers is 'avoid' and the best course of action for org is to lure people to still make money. I explained it multiple times, if the org is content with a terrible girl, then clearly mongers have a conflict with the sellers.
This is already putting buyers and sellers at odds withe each other. An honest seller who cares about their reputation, immediately removes a faulty product. And certainly doesn't sell it twice. This is about M, by the way, a booker you claimed to have close ties to. They employed a godawful girl not once, but twice and possibly three times (I didnt bother to check earlier, tbh). Sexyangels dot site also employed the same girl multiple times, both in their LA and bay offices.
You have 10 7 star reviews in like half a decade or more on here. There are currently around 70 agency kgirls or so in LA, by my rough estimate, which ones of these are 7s to you ? Oh wait, you get info from other people so you dont actually see them, I get it.
You know an org tactic that I really like ? They go ahead and publish a subpar review about their own girl...once she is gone and they know she isn't coming back. But when she's there they'll use other accounts to sing her praises. One of the oldest tactics in the book.
the transition from naivete to ignorance. That's no small feat. Making conclusory statements without evidence impresses no one. You keep talking about "the org", but which org are you talking about. If you are going to make your claim that you are helping people, you need to give them information. When you keep making vague general conclusions without specific org names or examples, you help no one. The mongers on TER are much more savvy than your average monger on Donkey. This is unconvincing. I'll take it step by step following your format. . . . .
Your first mistake is likening a Kgirl to a product. Products don't have emotions and are generally incapable of reacting to how the buyer uses them. This further objectification (I have mentioned it before) just abdicates any responsibility on YOUR part for anything that goes wrong in the session, while conflicting scores on the same girl show that not every monger perceives her the same way. As you just said yourself on another thread, there is a lot of subjectivity in reviews, and you also admitted that, when it comes to looks, you have seen some girls that you thought were pretty and others didn't, and vice versa. Service SHOULD be less-subjective, but this is where YMMV applies. Just because a few young guys think a girl is terrible, based on their limited experience with Kgirls, it doesn't mean they are bad, and in a lot of these cases, older guys will rate these same girls significantly higher and are more likely to repeat because they have more experience getting the best return from a Kgirl session. Do you think this disparity in scoring of the SAME girl reflects more on the girl and/or the org, or on the POV of the mongers that are seeing her.
You always confuse me when you start talking about reviews in terms of stars. In TER reviews, stars only count for location and chemistry, and five is the max, so not sure what you are talking about with "7 stars." No matter what your meaning, how can you ask me to give any kind of score to a girl I haven't seen? Are you able to do that? The current girls I have seen and reviewed have their scores, the ones I haven't seen and reviewed have no scores yet. I don't see what your point is. The question doesn't make any sense.
FYI, it is against TER rules to have multiple accounts. This goes for orgs AND individual monger and provider members. Getting caught can get you banned. Are you talking about the ONE disreputable org you found four reviews for, or are you talking about the past site you were on? And if its the other site, AND NOT TER, shouldn't you really be complaining about it over there. I think now that TER is back, there are not many mongers that still visit that other site for reviews. TER is so much better.
the other day but decided not to pose the question as I don't think discussion with rocket on this is going anywhere. I think it would be most honest of him to say something like BA Orgs or name the particular agency he is specifically raising the point about.
I do think the scoring is highly problematic here -- no surprise we all think that. But specific to the conversation here both you and rocket have what I consider possible non-standard scoring. TER review guide lines say nothing about calibrating the numbers to the providers one has seen or some guess at a general class of providers. I've always rated the looks and performance on my experience with women in general, not just professional sex workers or k-girls. I suspect that is one reason I am very unlikely to a 5 or below and rarely think a 6 is merited.
I have now idea on what TER's thinking there was but know its general goal was to provide some standardization so everyone's scores could perhaps be compared without too much interpretation. That is not possible in reality but to the extent TER can set some basic guide lines it should. I think here is something they could improve by suggesting just what the basis should be. Should a 5 be the average for my personal experience and preferences or something more general that everyone might have a more common and shared view on (e.g., looks for the women one sees in daily life).
All of my local Kgirl bro's know about my own scoring system, so they KNOW that if I give a 7 for either looks or service, its tantamount to a DNS recommendation. As Rocket has noted, I don't do it that often, because for me, 8 is average, and I have seen very few Kgirls in my time as a monger that did not at least meet the bottom threshold for "Average" in my estimation. I believe its enough to warn guys by saying a girl is "below average" with a 7. Nothing additionally is gained by beating her up with a 5. If she it truly terrible, she will get enough 5's from others who didn't get DFK because they had gum disease, and mine won't really matter anyway.
I have often asked other reviewers about two girls they reviewed and which one was better. Oftentimes, they will tell me A was better than B. The problem is, that they gave B a higher score than A when they saw her six months ago, and this is the most common problem with reviews . . . . . lack of consistency even in ONE mongers own reviews when compared to HIS other reviews. If TODAY, he thinks B was worse than A, who he saw recently, why didn't he give A a higher score? Most reviewers, especially the younger and less experienced, tend to move the goalposts a lot on their definition of what each number means. I discovered this about myself when I was new and reviewing on another website until five years ago when I came to TER. I started with my current scoring system from day one on TER, so there are NO discrepancies between scores I have given four years ago compared to those of a few weeks ago. 8 is average, a 9 will always be above average and a 7 below average. A 10 will put a girl in the top ten percent of all Kgirls I have seen, although I don't think on my current list it is at 10%, its probably less, but who knows, I could easily see four or five 10's in a row and percentages would change as a result.
I literally named two orgs in my post. You chose to ignore this, for whatever reason. They're in your backyard and you bragged about going to one of these bookers birthday parties to me. Here, I'll name them again. M and sexyangels. Lets see you ignore them again. Where am I being vague? I'm name dropping everything and everyone. If you're talking about the tactics I mentioned, that is a very well known tactic in the bay by Sam's org (aa/kga/bgc/etc) and ebk/smk.
Kgirls are definitely a product, and it has nothing to do with objectification. Just like a bad cmt massage therapist is also a bad product, and it also has nothing to do with objectification. Both of them can give bad service and both of them earn money with their bodies.
Again,you said you help mongers by telling them to not see girls who are rated as 7s by you. I pointed out that you only have ten such reviews in 5 years, while dozens upon dozens of girls pass through the system and the game. Many of these girls have low review scores on TER. How many of these 7s are still working?
That is my point, really. How are you helpful when a guy is looking for girls to avoid and you have 10 7s in five years, many of whom aren't even working nowadays?
Again, there are objectively bad service girls who have very low scores on TER as well over a good sample size. What discrepancy in reviews are you talking about? If a girl is averaging less than 7 in performance, can we conclude she's a bad product? You already said you don't see girls like these, right? Why? Because... wait for it... you know you will likely have a bad session. So my question is, again, why do the orgs continue to employ them, until someone raises a shitstorm about a girl? You yourself say to avoid girls who you gave 7s to. Did you ask booker to stop employing them? If you recommend everyone to avoid girls who you gave 7s to, and orgs are still trying to sell them, aren't your actions and booker actions opposite to each other?
And spare me the other shit. You already admitted a girl can give bad service. You're now again trying to shift responsibility for her bad service to the monger.
the transition from naivete to ignorance. That's no small feat. Making conclusory statements without evidence impresses no one. You keep talking about "the org", but which org are you talking about. If you are going to make your claim that you are helping people, you need to give them information. When you keep making vague general conclusions without specific org names or examples, you help no one. The mongers on TER are much more savvy than your average monger on Donkey. This is unconvincing. I'll take it step by step following your format. . . . .
Your first mistake is likening a Kgirl to a product. Products don't have emotions and are generally incapable of reacting to how the buyer uses them. This further objectification (I have mentioned it before) just abdicates any responsibility on YOUR part for anything that goes wrong in the session, while conflicting scores on the same girl show that not every monger perceives her the same way. As you just said yourself on another thread, there is a lot of subjectivity in reviews, and you also admitted that, when it comes to looks, you have seen some girls that you thought were pretty and others didn't, and vice versa. Service SHOULD be less-subjective, but this is where YMMV applies. Just because a few young guys think a girl is terrible, based on their limited experience with Kgirls, it doesn't mean they are bad, and in a lot of these cases, older guys will rate these same girls significantly higher and are more likely to repeat because they have more experience getting the best return from a Kgirl session. Do you think this disparity in scoring of the SAME girl reflects more on the girl and/or the org, or on the POV of the mongers that are seeing her.
You always confuse me when you start talking about reviews in terms of stars. In TER reviews, stars only count for location and chemistry, and five is the max, so not sure what you are talking about with "7 stars." No matter what your meaning, how can you ask me to give any kind of score to a girl I haven't seen? Are you able to do that? The current girls I have seen and reviewed have their scores, the ones I haven't seen and reviewed have no scores yet. I don't see what your point is. The question doesn't make any sense.
FYI, it is against TER rules to have multiple accounts. This goes for orgs AND individual monger and provider members. Getting caught can get you banned. Are you talking about the ONE disreputable org you found four reviews for, or are you talking about the past site you were on? And if its the other site, AND NOT TER, shouldn't you really be complaining about it over there. I think now that TER is back, there are not many mongers that still visit that other site for reviews. TER is so much better.
that I should give more 7's to girls I haven't seen yet because some of the ones I already reviewed and gave 7's to may no longer be working (according to you, but you probably mean no longer working in CA). I stand by my assertion that I can get at least an AVERAGE kgirl session out of almost every Kgirl I end up seeing. Sometimes I have to be super-charming, which may guys are not, but if you have social skills with women in general most guys will get at least an average session like I do. The ones that are below average are the outliers for me, not the rule.
When its the same girl, what is the difference when I walk in and have a good session with a Kgirl and a younger guy walks in and has a bad session. Once again, and I hate repeating myself on this almost every day, but you don't seem to get it. so here it is yet again . . . . . . "What you get out of a Kgirl is often a reflection of what you bring to the incall." I'm talking about attitude, demeanor, confidence, playfulness, respect, friendliness, and sexual skills of your own. If all you brought was the donation, and you're about as exciting as watching paint dry, chances are it could go South. If it does, who is to blame. Just the girl, just you, or are you both at fault? So yeah, if a guy gets a shitty session, more often than not, he was a contributor.
In no way I suggested that. I asked how are your 7s helpful to others when most of them don't even work here anymore.
First, I would like a read receipt for me name dropping the orgs.
Second, I already said I don't really give a shit if you think you need to dance around the girl on your dick to cheer her up after paying her for her to do her job, which she sucks at. That's you. There's baseline kgirl service that is expected. When I pay my cmt to do a cmt quality massage on me, I expect cmt level massage, not jack shack massage. And if she does a bad job, no one in the right mind will say that I needed to entertain her.
I buy sex in order to get away from a dead fish situation and to get away from games, so naturally a dead fish = bad service. Stop repeatedly blaming bad experiences on paying mongers. And once a girl reputation is established as "avoid like the plague", then Id expect self-respecting orgs to not promote such girl and avoid recruiting her. And if they do choose to recruit her, I would consider them choosing money over reputation. Its fairly logical train of thought, isn't it?
The only reason I pay for pussy is to get zero strings attached fuck by the pros. Why in the world would I pay money in order to entertain a girl if she can't fuck? I can go to a bar and try get a girl who'll likely be a dead fish, but she'll be free and most likely younger. Shit, Gambler said it very well in the other thread. Begging for paid pussy is nonsense. Have some fucking dignity.
Heres a hint. Most kgirls know how to fuck. This is why I see them. And those who don't usually get lower ratings anyway. It's not just me or small sample size. There's a reason bad service girls change names as often as Mr Rogers. People don't like dead fish after they paid for pussy. My point is that if orgs were customer-oriented they would deal with outliers accordingly.
I was talking about sacrificing your connections for mongers, not "your time and knowledge". Lol, "sacrificing knowledge" is a good one. Sacrificing means something you value a lot and the loss of which will hurt you. What does "sacrificing" knowledge do ? Any loose lipped guy who has info is "sacrificing knowledge" then.
Pie in the sky? Telling a monger they should be able to write subpar reviews without being scared of BL is hardly pie in the sky imo.
Here's what I would consider example of sacrifice. You told me that you think it's not a good thing that orgs Threaten BL for bad reviews. So why not mention that to the bookers face? Just like you report bad girls (allegedly) , but this will be more of a sacrifice. You know, stand up for what you believe in even if it might mean losing some of the good favor. Sacrifice means having consequences. The first story of sacrifice is the story of Abraham and Isaac.
What do you mean "continue" ? Why are orgs hiring them in the first place for second and even third tours ? This happened with Hera at M. The org shill/po/pimp on std board replied with "the first time was short", which is bs, you and me know it.
Orgs know about girls' reputations and still hire them. If orgs truly cared about customers' experience, why would they hire 'bad' girls ? The answer is easy: $. This is the only language orgs speak. They will gladly take a girl on her 5th rebrand who has shitty reviews. The orgs stopped caring about their reputation a long time ago.
OK, you allegedly reported MANY substandard girls (Im sure they were part of your 2% -or were they ?) , but did you also write reviews on them ? To let the mongers who don't personally PM you, know ?
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LSC is a private Club now. I am a member in good standing. I feel sorry for those who cannot join.
My vampire kgirl worked at a Chinese only private Club during the 90s. You no Chinese ethnicity, no soup for you. She shared many stories with me of her tour there....
I met her in 2007 when she went Indy and opened up her own storefront. I promised not to out her so please don't ask?
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I'm a spoiled and privileged monger. I'm a white boy who speaks 'merican', Espanol and Mandarin.
Vampire kgirl allegedly refuses service to blacks and Indians. She refers to them as the 'N' word. I ask her to not refer to my monger brothers of color in my presence in that way as I find it highly offensive. I tell her she's a classy lady and there's no need for that.
You may ask me why I'm bringing this up? Because she only takes appointments from regulars now like LSC. I feel bad for those who came to the party late.
YMMV
refuses service to Indians, do you mean software Indians or casino Indians?
All monger brothers of color are allegedly refused service by Vampire kgirl: Blacks, Pakistanis and Indians from India. Sometimes I just wanna choke that no good whore when she won't listen to me about her foul rascist mouth. I am not cool with calling working girls 'whores'; but it's ok on a one off basis...
In 2014, we celebrated her 40th birthday together. In 2018, I was snooping through her purse and saw her DL states she is born in April 1959; you do the math...
I asked Vampire kgirl if she likes the music from 'Queen'? She said no. She said I prefer Aerosmith; her favorite song is 'Dream On'. I told her that Freddy Mercury is of Indian descent.
and she too was trying to pass herself off as 40 something until P 411 change their policy a year or two back that providers could only "fudge their age" by five years, She woke up one day to find her stated age on her P 411 profile changed from around forty to 55, which was still five years off as she was 60 at the time. She immediately changed her profile to "age hidden" lol
BTW why were you "snooping" through her purse? Lying about your age is one thing, violating someone's privacy like that is a hundred times worse.
That's what she said too!
and a racist Korean??? Say it isn't so. lol
And a note to CDL, I am sure she meant Dots, not feathers. lol
I have enjoyed working side by side with Koreans for a couple of decades.
But I have to admit that they are some of the most xenophobic people I’ve ever met.
Just watch a male Korean friend’s reaction when he sees a white guy walking up to a pretty Korean girl.
Actually I think ALL old school Asians are racist. My mother's family almost disowned her when she married my white father.
As for me I am hardly politically correct and I use racial slurs all the time, but it's hard to be truly a racist when you yourself are a halfbreed.
Personally I think I am kind of a chameleon, I have run with a mostly White, Black, Brown and Asian crowd during various parts of my life, there have been a lot of periods where I was also the only English speaker in the crowd I hung out with. One thing I have found out in this life is contrary to what most of the "woke" crowd like to claim, we are NOT "all the same" there are many differences between the races, but that doesn't mean any one of them is better or worse than the others, just different, and I LOVE "variety" I would hate it if we were all the same.
completely unrelated but all I could think of when I read the "just different" was the froggy scene from Leathal Weapon (4?)
There is a retired Kgirl that I visit for a week in Seoul every year for the last 5 years or so. The second time I went, we drove out to the country to meet her parents (parents were same age as me, so I was ready for some pushback). We got there, and they were clearly not going to accept me as a suitable "match" for their daughter (which was far from the kind of FWB relationship we actually have), but it was not because I was 20 years older than her, it was because I wasn't Korean. She told me on the way back that her mother asked her privately, "Are you having sex?" She said, "Yes," and her mother then said, "Don't have a baby with him. It will be ugly."
In China, Vietnam and Korea, half breeds are looked down on and treated like second class citizens. Even Hines Ward was treated like crap by Koreans until he got famous, but in Thailand they LOVE the mix between Europeans and Thais, it seems like most of their biggest stars have are mixed race.
Obviously to a halfbreed like me this is a great thing as a lot of Thai girls really do think I am good looking because of my ethnic backround while it can be a negative with Asian Girls from other countries.
girl at my gym that is absolutely stunning. I was trying to get in pants for a long time until she told me she was married. (Even though she was flirting her ass off until it got to the point we should be fucking). When I asked her about it, she said neither of her parents had blue eyes but her grandfather was half European.
BTW, what is up with some non-americanized Asian obsession with the blonde/blue eye look? I've had more than one kgirl sigh and say they wish they had blue eyes like me and not brown ones. During a session. I've initially dismissed it as some kind of small talk and an alley oop fishing for compliments, but clearly there's more to it, since it happened multiple times.
of some of our local OC Kgirls that I have seen in the past who NOW have blue eyes instead of the brown when I saw them. Blue contacts are becoming popular the last year or so down here. I have blue also and about six years ago a Kgirl introduced me to her roommate with the phrase, "Don't look at his eyes, they'll melt your pants off." Lol You've probably had yours your whole life, just like me, so its no big deal to us, but Kgirls are infatuated with blue eyes.
I've mostly dated Asian girls during my life (yes, yellow fever a lot),but they were also americanized or at least second generation immigrants. They'd barely mention my eye color,kinda like I'd barely mention theirs even though I do like brown eyes the most. And kgirls fixate on that. Its bizarre. Just weird hearing them talk like that about themselves and obsess over eye color.
You never know, but maybe the ugly part wasn't related to race. My almost 37 young son is a product of me and my late/RIP Korean wife (she wasn't a K-girl). I think I'm better looking than him, or at least I was 30 years ago.
I know, RPD, I was always considered a good-looking guy in my youth. No problem getting women into my bed, but alas, when this happened I was 56 and her daughter was 36, so mom was probably judging by what I look like NOW, compared to her daughter, not then. Lol
Actually, by the time I left Seoul, she had warmed up a bit, but that was after I told her that her daughter doesn't want to marry me. We were just "close" friends.
Koreans and Japanese are some of the most racist people on Earth LMAO. We'll never act on it, but boy do we hate black people. Only difference is that Korean people's racism is more aggressive and direct. Japanese are racist, but more along the lines of stereotypes and indirect racism. Like they will be the one's to make fried chicken and watermelon for a black exchange student because they believe that all black people eat that. Koreans will watch you like a hawk if you go to their restaurant or mini-mart. If you stay too long, be prepared to hear ajjuma tell you to move it.
God forbid a family should ever see their Korean daughter come home with a black man, but a Korean son coming home with a black woman? They would much rather prefer their son be gay than come home with a black girl. But a gay Korean son with a black man??? Hide the fry pans, because mama is gonna be throwing them.
My mother was the first person EVER in her family to date a white guy, much less marry one and have a half breed kid (Me). Of course this was over sixty years ago and now about half of my extended family are in interracial relationships with a LOT of half breed kids running around. lol
Back to Koreans, remember Hines Ward? They HATED him until he got famous and now the Korean community wants to claim him as one of their own. It's nice to see that Koreans (Asians in general) can be just as narrow minded, racist and hypocritical as white people, if not even more so. lol
Maybe that's why black people always burn down Korea town when they riot??? lol
The Hines Ward issue is such BS, it pissed me off. Fortunately it helped break the stigma about black people and mixed-race Koreans, but it took a fucking celebrity and a Super Bowl to do so. Goes to show just how sad Korea's celebrity worship is... no social issues take place unless a celebrity is at the forefront. It's BS. People were asking for his autograph and pictures with him and they knew NOTHING about football. If he wasn't a Super Bowl winner, you can guarantee he would've been dismissed as just another half-breed.
Not to get too political, but the riots/looting from a few weeks ago pissed me off when people are publicly defending the looting. I don't really care about Target and Walmart... they pay 10 of millions in insurance so they will always be fine. But the small shop owners, especially the one's owned by POC who invested EVERYTHING they have into those shops, were looted and people defended that. My dad was saying how people in his Korean church were falling into depression when the looting began because it gave them flashbacks of them losing everything during the LA Riots and then moving to Seattle right after to live with a relative to start over. Punks from South Central were always robbing and shoplifting from stores in K-Town before the riots and then they decided to screw them over. Defenders of the riots always say that K-Town got their comeuppance because a shop owner killed a black teenager, yet the fail to mention the number of Koreans that were raped, assaulted, and murdered prior to the Riots. Hypocritical much?
Sorry for the rant....
during the recent riots in LA that were masquerading as "peaceful protests", Korean business owners learned from their past mistakes and owners and employees patrolled the roofs of their commercial buildings in Ktown with AR-15s at the ready. The marchers gave them a wide berth. The only ones that got looked were those that were closed and not boarded up with no one on the premises.
This happened even back during Rodney King riots. Plenty videos of Koreans defending their property from back then and being on a roof with weapons. Id imagine ar-15s are pretty illegal now in Cali and you can get a long sentence for even carrying it.
I was reluctant to state it as strongly as you did. But this has been my experience as well.
Though a few Korean and Japanese moms liked me for some reason. I think it was because I was an executive with a cool title (it probably didn’t hurt that I was slimmer and very young looking back then and that Asian blindness caused many of them to accuse me of looking like Brad Pitt). I’ve always hated titles. So I generally just put “Director” on my business cards. I figured if they needed to know more about what I did, they could ask. In Asia, that ended up going over pretty well. Though I never really figured out why.
Asians LOVE titles. I'm not joking. Even at a Korean church, there's political drama because somebody wants a title lol. In Korean, almost every position in a company has a title and it's always referred to when talking to someone. Even an assistant is considered a title and when someone calls out to them, they will refer to them as "Assistant Lee" for example.
Age off by 10 Years! You been in this game enough time to know.
Now you have three options
Write a fair and honest review. Deal with the consequences if the booker finds out who you are. If you are putting your wallet away, then you don’t care.
Text the booker and let them know your displeasure. They may not care.
Do nothing, bitch about it, trying to get some sympathy.
Well, I don't think any pics of any girl actually show cellulite, but that's pretty messed up. Again, I don't know how you guys who care about eye candy do it, this is just throwing rigged dice and them taking your money. The bay also is becoming very MILF-ish. I wish the service would also go up accordingly, but it hasn't.
I didn't bother to check your reviews.
My bad...
You did in fact session with Cora and according to your review, you agree with my monger friend. Why not try a different candy kgirl? I'm not going to arm chair QB your game. You've got your reasons...
Care to assist me in mentoring Papa babo with his first kgirl experience now that you prefer to rub a few out instead of buying pussy?!?!
Sounds like you'll have some extra time on your hands...
Ha ha
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Ha ha! I've been familiar with Papa for a while on other boards...I think. Could be wrong. If it's the same dude, he don't need no schoolin'.
I'm really not down for bringing folks in right now either. Sorry to the orgs for admitting that I'm not doing any word-of-mouth marketing for them right now, but this shit is earned. I'll never forget my first KGirl. Vivian, on Moorpark. I've been in it for twenty years, and ok, I don't write many reviews, and NEVER bad ones, but someone wants to come aboard and claim to have studied my reviews and know all manner of shit they can get in on their own.
Kgirls are NOTHING like the independent white, black and brown pussy that always have some tell like "no games, no drama" in their ads which inevitably means "Nothing but games and drama!" That's why other hoes don't like them, and in my belief it's why Neurotic Monkey got pressured to remove the K's from their boards, even though the content generated by them was superior to all the rest.
Of course my rant about taking a break lasted about two days. Went to get the cora treatment yesterday. Cock is broken, as usual. Love that girl, almost like Kendall, well, not really but...
sag
Well, I know you said you don't write bad reviews, but you would do a good service to others if you ever do... bad reviews are a million times more helpful in weeding out talent. Talking to the org guys after a bad session is like talking to a wall unless you're a VIP monger or whatever Mr tux and such people call himself. Just my two cents.
well, the face never matches, but yeah the other stuff sucks. just saying.
Just got duped into seeing Sonya, I am guessing 45 or over, PO told me 25.
Submit the problem report for the profile?
I wouldn't ever trust the ebk PO about anything. When they have nerve to go on forums and pretend to be mongers (4th down exposal was hilarious) in order to promote their girls.
But it's telling that Sonya is rated highly in LA. Grades for same girls when they are in LA are inflated, probably due to the aura of exclusivity and fear of BL. That's my theory. That and fear of BLing in LA.
For some reason I first got excited, I've confused Sonya from sweetasiangem with Sophie. I wish Sophie aka AA Helen would come back to the bay, she just might have me get out of my self-imposed quarantine.
I’m very confused here.
The fix to the problem is quite easy: video call the provider.
The video NEVER lies
My 2 cents
It takes 2 minutes and will give you peaceful of mind.
😘
Doesn't work with kgirls/korgs. One of the reasons bay area korgs left the previous review platform is because the admin was tired of fake pics and profiles, and instituted video verification procedure.
They balked at that.
Nuerotic Donkey instituted a policy where providers needed to get 'verified' to have a review page. In order to be 'verified', the provider needed to email a selfie with a piece of paper with the date on it.
Upon reflection, this selfie could be used against my beloved kgirls by LE for working while visiting on a tourist Visa or something even more nefarious. I recommended that all kgirls not participate as monger sense was tingling that Nuerotic Donkey was up to some shenanigans.
I'm not an attorney. It is just my personal opinion as a smooth criminal for thirty + years of avoiding conflict with LE.
I found myself banned shortly after posting this recommendation. My content has since been erased.
You can draw your own conclusions about that no good MOTHER FUCKER George and his BULLSHIT website.
I say go over to that BULLSHIT website and see who's verified and who isn't. Nuff said.
So happy to be here at TER!!!
I have been getting many PM's from my monger bros back at NotAMPmaps and Nuerotic Donkey. If they haven't already, more like minded monger bros will be joining us soon. I look forward to a robust Bay Area presence of monger bros here at TER. And thanks to those already here for your warm welcome!!!!
👍
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Yes, first donkey asked for selfie. Better orgs like Dan's org and corgs that didn't mind truthful photos like Asiancat provided them. But then it was not enough, donkey then wanted video verification. So you're not following the whole story. There is nothing particularly bad about asking for truthful photos and videos, imo.
I think George did the right thing about the shitshow that was going on. You likely were an unfortunate casualty, especially since - let's face it- you did write some reviews for Coconut who you haven't seen, ever.
By the way, I went back there today and left a new review for Kira (yes, some profiles are back, including Haru and others). Apparently their policy is now no free access for reviews, everything is paid (which is what I suggested multiple times a year ago, btw). If they did this a year ago, we would likely have a less of shitshow.
Let's agree to disagree about the nefariousness of MOTHER FUCKER George? Time will tell Rocketbro...
And Ms Coconut was our # 1 meme kgirl!!! Yeah, I'll admit I wrote a few fake reviews on our # 1 meme kgirl, Ms Coconut!!!
I didn't session with Ms Coconut as Joann kept me fully satisfied with pampering at Baykisses. I'm surprised you didn't get in on meme kgirl Ms Coconut's review # 1,000!!!!
Or were we saving that for Rick?!?! Where in the actual fuck is Rick anyway?! I chatted with Senor Spoon a while back...
I'm glad we're monger bros again. 👍
And funny you mentioned the 'death trap' building in Oaktown's Chinatown today. That was our first argument...
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Hey, I was just trying to get the story straight. I also did not like george changing criteria from selfie to video once some orgs provided pics, and I also did not like all reviews that mongers wrote being removed from public view. I went ahead and confronted him that directly in a thread, also mentioning that security hole in forums. He didn't really reply but also did not ban me.
Yes, I will miss that building. Multicolored would sometimes have young gems, and Cici from Lotus still has one of the best kegels I've ever had, period. I wish I'd knew where she'd move to, but I think storefronts are kind of fucked because of COVID altogether. Yeah I remember that silly argument we've had. It's all good, man.
Rocket is the straightest shooter around and because of that he argues and argues because to him it is what it is and nothing else. Twoon, you are the peace keeper and one who keeps on recommending the Kgirl with the big rack (cannot remember her many names at Klovers) who looks like Shrek's girlfriend ( not the Diaz version) in her pics 
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It's one thing to make fun of your bros, it's another to ridicule. Me and you are cool Sean. Hey, I find beauty in these kgirls!!! Gotta be careful at TER to not promote though...
I know of who you speak Sean. I know her as LV Tracy and Eri. I could not find a review page for her on TER; can you assist? And Sean, I cannot recall her most recent stage name. Can you?
I've been sessioning with LV Tracy / Eri for going on four years; she has a huge following in San Diego. One monger referred to her as a 'hag' back at NotAMPmaps...I find her a Korean equivalent of Phoebe from the TV Show 'Friends'.... Phoebe is quirky and HOT!!!!
Let the reviews speak for themselves. Go ahead and be hard on me Sean; I appreciate your tough monger love!
Let's try to include provider name and TER ID # when we reference our Bay Area kgirls in the threads?
YMMV
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I'm not try to argue here twoon...but with TER id #, it's actually tougher because sometimes the escort page doesn't have links attached, for example that Vicky profile did not have any identifying info on it besides phone #. and TER already does not have pics stored (in that regard, donkey was better, as it still has pics on file for all the girls) so it's tough for me to say this is the correct profile just off girl name and reviews.
Again, not trying to argue, just explaining why I'm hesitant to provide TER id in some cases :p
So please correct me if I'm wrong?
If I go session with Vicky but not sure if she's the same TER # that I reference above, do I create a new profile / review page, get published then reach out to Admin whether or not to merge profiles!!??
Things that make you go hmmmmm....
TIA
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No idea, sounds reasonable to me though. The other alternative is just assume some profile, but if her number is different and there are no link to pics... will be tough to find her for others.
BTW I haven't seen Vicky, but from what I've heard she's alot older than her pics and not exactly super slim either. This is for anyone reading in the background. Heard great things about service, but don't expect a lot in looks department.
Also btw... Ellie is apparently back @LSC. Your buddy Burton swears by her religiously. The way he described her to me, I kinda got intrigued too. Haha.
This is how the league-type photo archive was so useful. Even on the east coast, I could search a name or do an image search and often find a previous incarnation of my hostess (or pre-hostess, if I was still looking for reviews). My "Coco" in NY was previously "Rico" on the west coast. Rico had great reviews, etc. but, for some reason, wanted to morph into Coco for her NY tour. Go figure.
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I doubt that TER wants to add a photo archive to their site (disk space; bandwidth), but I think that some of you west coast guys should undertake the effort. Host the site in .ch or other country to avoid FOSTA/SESTA and other interference. Thanks!, in advance.
So please correct me if I'm wrong?
If I go session with Vicky but not sure if she's the same TER # that I reference above, do I create a new profile / review page, get published then reach out to Admin whether or not to merge profiles!!??
Things that make you go hmmmmm....
Imp, I tried looking for the convo we've had about photo archive, and I couldn't find it. I know this slightly off topic, but I've actually looked into creating a simple rebrand site that would feed off an image db I would populate manually (large overhead, but since not that many new girls come and stay, updating won't be that bad)
The issues are kinda compounding tho, especially in light of new cv being busted.
I'd need:
Offshore domain name
Offshore hosting (with cloudfare because it's 2020 and I don't want to manage external load balancers and ddos attacks on my own)
Offshore cloud hosting if I want some front end api that would have access to my backend db
All that plus a risk of being indicted for prostitution even if I don't advertise anyone.
It's kinda murky tbh. It might be easier just creating some template website that agencies use and just use pics, but this means manual updates by me only, not smart engine image search.
If the Vicky that is back in emeryville is the same one I used to see in San Jose up until a couple of years ago, she is pretty awesome. One of the tightest girls who can still handle a magnum. Or used to be.
She also kept herself very fit. No flab anywhere.
I’m an old endurance athlete. Nowhere near as fast as I once was. When she found out I rode my bike a lot she thought it would be fun to ride together, if I could keep up, she said. It never panned out because of my calendar issues, not hers. But she was very confident I’d have a hard time keeping up with her. Or, at worst, that she’d have no problem keeping up. She apparently used to put in quite a few miles herself.
Yep
She's many a monger's ATF.
My beloved Vicky is the kgirl in the thread titled tag team. She said only one monger in the room at any time. No means no and she's a sweetheart.
If being a kgirl fan boy is wrong, you are welcome to make fun of me.
Twoon, you've seen Vicky on this tour already? Can you confirm it's her?