Hello.
Long time member of TER from NYC.
Im a big fan of the K-Girl establisments here in NYC.

But after reading most of the posts on this board there seems to be a huge difference  
btw. the LA K-Girl scene and the NYC K-Girl scene.

For one the prices and the performances vary greatly. Seems like you get more for your buck on the west coast.

But the one difference that stands out the most to me is the "screening process" that is in place in LA.
Here in NYC there is minimal screening to enter most of the KMP's.

Seems like in LA a hobbiest needs to jump thru many hoops before he can even try to make an appt.
I understand that the screening is for both the provider and the hobbiest protection, but why does it seem like there is a higher standard on the west coast to be accepted?

I see mentions of "Bookers" in LA, here in NYC you just call the establishment directly and make the appt. with the phone girl.  

So why the big difference?

Thanks

In NYC, there are 2 types of K-girl establishments.  There are KMPs with TS and internet houses that are in regular apt which are more akin to what is being talked about here.  There's minimal screening with KMPs, but AFAIK, similar screening exists for internet houses.  Big differences in prices too...

Not sure what you mean by "internet houses" ?
Most of the KMP's here have websites and do the table shower.
I know there are a few higher end ones that seem to offer better looking girls and offer more of a GFE experience, Probably more closer to the type of  service that you can get in LA., but they are twice the price of the normal KMP's.  
They are all in apartment buildings.

You can call any of these establisments and get in with hardly any screening at any time.
No "Booker" requred. Although I have heard that most of these houses share a data base of phone #'s
of hobbiest not to service.

Also not sure what you mean by AFAIK?

Thanks for your response

Internet houses are the one that charge twice KMP rates and only offer GFE services. Those don't have TS.  They do screen much like rest of the country, but perhaps not like LA.

AFAIK = as far as I know

Have never heard the term "internet houses" used here in NYC.
Although they may offer better GFE services and don't have table showers, we still consider them KMP's here.
Also, the screening process (if any) for these houses is the same as the KMP's that are half the price.

xnyong thanks for your responses. It looks like you are based in the DC area from your reviews?
Seems like that scene is more similar to the LA K-Girl scene?
I hope that some of the LA hobbiest can chime in on this?

Thanks.

I think you are confusing LA kgirl service that you are seeing talked about on this board and the escort review section that TER offers.  Those are not massage parlors.  They are incalls with escorts in their apartment.   Think like setting up a session with an escort and going to a hotel.  So these "incall service" type of kgirls have strict screening process.  So to get an appointment with the kgirl in these apartments you contact their agent...ie their booker...who screens you and sets up your time with the girl.  

This is different from another type of kgirl service in LA that are done in massage parlors.  Which is what you seem to be talking about.    Now these are not done in apartments but actual massage parlors businesses with open sign and cash register etc.  these like NY have virtually no screening other then the madam or girl at the front desk will either accept you or tell you to leave.    Ive been to one of these in LA and yes virtually no screening.  you goto into the business usually has a sign saying accupuncturists or massage or something and goto front desk to ask for a session or mention you called and have a appointment...and thats it.  pay the cash register person, you goto one of the rooms...has massage bed etc....girl comes in wearing some short skirt etc and not some bikini....she massages you a little and then start handling your manhood or whispers in your ear and asks what you want etc....you give the signal for everything and she leaves the room and comes back in with condoms and wet knaps etc and lowers the lights and she strips and starts blowing you or starts sex.    am i describing your NY experience?

 


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They differentiate between KMPs which they refer to as spas, and K-agency apts which they call internet houses. Sometimes touring K-girl will work at a KMP in NY, but offer GFE service which causes confusion.  For example  

http://www.nyvipasian.com/

is a KMP.  But they have 3 well known touring K-girls there now who are offering GFE services.  I think NYC is the only place in the country where there is this hybrid system where some girls offer GFE and others AMP service.

There are probably 3 differnet types of K-Girl services here in NYC.

There are KMP's here that are similar to what you describe for the "massage-accupuncture" or "storefront"  services.
You pay the fee at the door, go into room with a massage table and they send in a girl. You get the massage and then negotiate the extra services. No table shower. Normally its $80 entrance and an extra $ for FS.
There is no screening at these places.

There are also KMP's here with no "storefront" advertising just websites. You call the mamasan or phone girl and ask for the girl you see on the site, if she is available they give you an address to the apartment. The apartments are all pretty similar in setup with multiple bedrooms and tableshower area. Normally there are at least 3-5 girls that are available each day. You go to one of the bedrooms with the girl of your choice. You give her the $$, she disappears for about 5-10 mins and then returns to give you the tableshower then the main event back in the bedroom.
Most of these KMP's offer slightly less of a GFE experience (i.e. -no DFK, No BBBJ, one pop only)
The girls are attractive and vary in performance. Some of these houses will do a lite screening with you over the phone but most will take you without any screening. They are also open 24/7

Then there are the higher end KMP's which have just popped up here within the last 2 years. These are probably more similar to the LA "Apartment" K-Girls. They are usually $$$$ pr/hr and offer dfk and bbbj with multiple pops. The girls are also better looking then the other KMP's. They use normal residencial apartments and usually just have one girl on at a time. They also advertise with websites. Most instances you can call and get an appt. the same day. They usually close at 10pm.
But I have not heard of any of these houses with a strict screening process or a booker. You just call the them direct and deal with the phone girl.

I mostly go for the second type of KMP I described. I would prefer the higher end KMP's but its just not in my budget. Maybe i will make it out to LA to sample the real K-Girl scene one day.

Thx

Yes - this has become a trend here. They advertise GFE services but fail to mention the additional funds required for the GFE, which is normally twice the regular price.

 

it sounds like the bunny ranch or some place in thailand or asia.  where you walk in.  see row of girls.  pick the one and both goto a room.  fact its in NYc is pretty crazy. i would think screening would be a must.  wonder how they get away with it?  nyc vice that short staffed?

well if your coming to LA make sure get prescreened.  which shouldnt be a problem for you since nyc and la bookers know each other.

have fun

I've used the high end version in NY that you described.  Call the booker/mamasan and provide references over the phone.  It's not that hard.  Get the address and go to the apartment at the agreed time.  There are usually at least a couple of girls there but you'll only lay eyes on the one you've arranged for.  It is the standard K-girl package that's often been described and the same as LA (at least from what I gather) but the screening isn't as nearly impossible as in LA.
The only thing I disagree with is your calling these places KMPs.  They are not set up as massage parlors, though you can get a massage if you want. They are mini-brothels.

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Yes, I was using KMP as a general term. Kind of like Kleenex for tissues.

I agree, there are the massage parlors or spas, and then there are the "mini-brothels", all offer  
K-Girls. Just differnent levels of service.

From the gist of this discussion board it just seems you get more "bang" for your buck in LA then NYC.
Hence, the stricter screening policies, I guess?

Thanks for all the responses.
 

Screening in LA for the most part is based on other K-girl references, which makes it difficult for someone on the outside to get in.  Screening in NY from what I know often involves giving out your real name and work info. Some may consider that a higher barrier than K-girl references. For GFE services, you may pay more than your LA counterpart, but your KMP is much better staffed and available at all hours. So pluses and minuses. If you want best of both worlds, SF/BA have it the best with GFE services at AMP prices.

and should be even stricter than it is now . Screening is the last line of defense .

However for the record , the top bookers do have an alternative screening process beside the traditional KD references , otherwise how can the KD be so dominant in LA . K- girl scene is dynamic because new members are continuously let in.  

While some of the standard KAAMPs finish work as early as  8:00 pm most work later. There are also after hours services and out calls available for those who qualify especially Koreans .

if it did, I would not have passed screening, as I never give out personal info.  Several of the best K-girl agencies advertise on Gina's Little Secret and I believe none of them require personal info.
PS: I don't doubt some do, however.

it can't possibily that NY vice is that short staffed or lazy not to bust the place if its that easy to get a session with the kgirls..

or is it own of those if no one complains ignore

I have never had to give my real name eitherand dont think its required inLA.

Its really not impossible to break into the scene if you are willing to earn your stripes.

Terns that are more universally recognized are AMP, and AAMP.  The later correlating to apts.  Spas are also commonly used with AMP.

Booker = phone girl or guy.  Same thing, its the person who sets up appts and makes sure you are safe.

It doesnt matter what city yoy are in, if you dont get any kind of screening that should be a warning to you.  There are a lot of bad people that want to screw you over.

Quite a few NY K-girls have told me that screening in VA is too easy compared to NY and its no walk in the park here.  So I guess its YMMV

They screen pretty much the same was everyone else does.  Besides, NY vice is not terribly focused on higher end houses, more on KMPs and SWs.

My experience in NY is about 4 years old (so maybe this is not true anymore), but I called one of  K-AAMP place in the Mid town and was able to make an appointment without giving any information.  3-4 calls systems. Small apartment, joint shower (not a table shower). So Is this not true anymore ?