K-girls

It doesn't really maximize their earnings . . . .
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 3101 reads
posted
1 / 19

I have often noticed in reading reviews that there seems to be a higher percentage of disappointment among hobbyists booking 30-minutes sessions than 60-minute sessions.  Over the years, in talking to both the hobbyists and the Kgirls, this higher level of dissatisfaction seems to stem from opposing expectations and assumptions on the part of both sides.  

On the one hand, many hobbyists seem to think they should get all of the services and effort in a 30-minute session that they would get in a 60-minute session, a goal that seems unreasonable on its face merely from the standpoint of the time constraints.  One the other hand, Kgirls generally view most guys that book 30-minutes as cheapskates, and so they consciously or subconsciously don't give their best effort.  This image is bolstered by the fact that they tell me tips are exceedingly rare on 30-minutes sessions.  Just as I think the hobbyists that expect too much in 30 minutes are wrong,. I also think Kgirls that jump to conclusions about guys who book 30 minutes can also be wrong.  Because of the unreasonable expectations on the part of the hobbyist and assumption on the part of the kgirl that you are booking 30-minutes because you are cheap, a bad session becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  

There is an overriding legit reason to book 30 minutes during the week.  Many guys I know book hour appointments on Saturday and Sunday, but will book 30 minutes on weekdays because they are leaving their work, often during their lunch hour, to try to get a session in.  However, the guys I know are not trying to sample a girl's whole menu in 30 minutes.  Its usually a quick shower rinse, sometimes solo to save time, then BBBJ and mish or doggy to completion in the bedroom.  They will usually skip the DFK and DATY, so the session is basically about them getting off, and not too much effort for the girl.  These guys have also booked hour sessions on the weekends with the same girls, where there is more time to do more things, so the girls come to understand its not about these guys being cheap, its about them getting some extra time with their favorite girls but only have half-hour spurts (no pun intended) in which to do it.  Many will still tip on the 30-minutes session.  

The Kgirls' negative view of 30-minutes sessions is not from these guys, but rather the ones that want them to do everything non-stop at an exhausting pace just so they can save $50-80.  I've read dozens of reviews where guys booked a half hour and then slammed the girl with a low score because there were "5 minutes left and she refused to start round 2."  This behavior just screams "cheap-ass" and this happens more than the other type of hobbyist in the previous paragraph and therefore shapes the overall negative view of 30-minute sessions on the part of Kgirls in general.  Just ask a Kgirl what she thinks about guys that book 30-minutes, and at the very least, you will get an eye-roll.  Others will start swearing in Korean.  Some will launch into the difference I have stated here, that some guys are okay, but that many are jerks.  

Personally, I think the solution to get good service during a 30-minute session is to book a one-hour session the first time you see the girl.  At the end, tell her you would like to see her a lot more often but you can't always get away for an hour plus the driving time on days you are working, so you could only see her for 30-minutes some times, but are reluctant to do that because you don't want her to think you're cheap.  Since you have just booked an hour, she knows you have the capability to do an hour, but circumstances may not always allow it, so it conveys the impression that its not a money issue, but a time issue.  Most are understanding, and will put you into the first group of two paragraphs above, and not the second group, who are the more obvious cheapskates.  

Sumo1234 60 Reviews 170 reads
posted
2 / 19

Understandable but a kgirl makes more per minute with 30 minute appointments so if maximizing their earnings is their main objective, they shouldn't hate on the short timers.  

I only do hour appointments but I have regretted not doing 30 minutes when it was only a one shot time wasted session with an early push out the door (sometimes as much as 15 minutes).

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 200 reads
posted
3 / 19

Because they still require a break between appointments.  Break time is dead time as far as earnings go.  

AznWhtTailHntr 17 Reviews 214 reads
posted
4 / 19

You bring up some very valid points but in a too sugary sweet kind of way.  

gustave300 13 Reviews 214 reads
posted
5 / 19

30-minute sessions altogether. I know of one that offers 40-minute sessions instead (at a higher price of course). I think that is a good alternative for both the girls and the customers who aren't cheap but short on time.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 177 reads
posted
6 / 19

Of course I made some valid points.  Why the hell would I post invalid points?  Geez!!!

 

(Is that better?)

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 188 reads
posted
7 / 19

whether its 30-min or 40-min is that there is usually some attached dead time.  The booker starts the morning with a grid in front of her/him divided into one hour sessions with a break in between.  The breaks can vary from ten to thirty minutes.  By way of example, if the grid lists appointment times of 10:00, 11:15, 12:30, 1:45 and 3:00, the booker might fill 10:00, 12:30 and 3:00 first.  That leaves the hours at 11:15 and 1:45 unfilled.  If the booker fills either of those slots with a half-hour or 40-min appointment, the balance of that hour becomes part of the break, so while Sumo above is correct that the price PER MINUTE is higher, the overall revenue is lower because of the increased break time.  

This is why top tier girls don't usually do less than one hour, whereas second tier girls would rather take the short session that have the whole hour go empty.  Ask any girl if she would rather have an hour appointment or a half hour at a higher per minute rate, and you will have your answer.  I already know because I've asked several.  

rpd1952 113 Reviews 176 reads
posted
8 / 19

I suggest some don't care to talk about the business.  But then, I haven't conducted interviews, so I'll just SWAG that there are 20% that take a dim view  of such questions, another 20% that love to talk about it and the other 60% are indifferent because so many guys are always bringing the business side of the business during the session.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 193 reads
posted
9 / 19

Often don't get straight answers from girls we don't know very well, but if they're comfortable to see you socially OTC for coffee, lunch or whatever, they have always been very open with me about the business. Second-tier girl who are rarely fully booked are more apt to be okay with the short sessions. They'd rather have a little bit, even if they have to work harder, than sit through the dead time if the alternative is no money at all.  

mufftime 270 Reviews 187 reads
posted
10 / 19

Totally agree.  Add the 30 minute appointments to the total of appointments
in the day and they are losing income.  It's not like everyone is very busy
anyway. It's been kind of slow lately for many.

brchao 52 Reviews 194 reads
posted
11 / 19

I do 30 min. sometimes on a new girl or something I want to see just for eye candy factor.  As CDL said, in a 30 min. session, I know it's all about me, whereas in an hour, I can do more in terms of mutual pleasure.  For a new girl that I don't click with or lack chemistry, I hate it just to sit idle and engage in pointless broken banter until my time is up.  My impression from girls is that it's less about loss of revenue or you being cheap.  They can understand not every guy can do an hour but issue arise when guys show up for an hour but insist on long foreplay and go through everything on the menu which leaves 5 min. left for them to make you pop, then they feel pressured and leads to going over the clock then impact the schedule.

GaGambler 215 reads
posted
12 / 19

and you "would" have a point if it were possible for a hooker to book twice as many 30 min sessions as she does 60 min sessions, but as CDL so aptly pointed out, that simply is NOT the case.

 
I certainly don't consider myself a "big spender" or at least not on each individual session that is, but personally I think at K_Girl rates,  you really do have to be kind of "cheap" to book a 30 min session. The difference in money is so little as K-Girls are already such a bargain, to try to save 75 Bucks or so just seems hardly worth the effort.  

 
And I was serious about you getting the boot immediately after you pop, either you are a VERY unpleasant person to be around and that's why they are running you off so soon, or you need to start seeing higher quality girls. Even the girls that don't speak a word of English will be more than happy to spend that last 30-45 minutes for you "two pump chumps" giving you a massage for the rest of your time. In my experience the K-Girls are very good about giving you the time you pay for.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 164 reads
posted
13 / 19

But I think you are right with your last point. I know because I didn't call myself the fastest gun in the West for nothing. I finish them all off with one shot and run like the wind.
 
My fantasy is done once I am done and it will ruin the fantasy if she knows the real me. However, the few times when I did want to recover after a few minutes of hard work, they never rushed me. The really good ones to me are the ones who insist I stay even when I am itching to get the hell out. Sometimes even when they told me I don't have time, they would still try to do what I asked  and I was always the one to cut it short first when I ran out of time.

dancebbq09 130 Reviews 205 reads
posted
14 / 19

They dont provide any less or better service from my experience.  Just less showering.  Guys usually bust their nuts in 5-10 mins so girls like it since no small talk and your out the door.  Its more tiring trying to act like they give a shit about us with gfe BS.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 164 reads
posted
15 / 19

This isn't Korea.  The girls come here to make more money than they make there.  Doing things the same way as there is probably not going to result in substantially increased income.  This market is different.  There are more American and fewer Korean customers than in Seoul, in case you didn't notice.  Just sayin.  Lol

uraidiot 130 Reviews 222 reads
posted
16 / 19

Simple solution. Just don't offer the 30 minute sessions so everyone will have to book for an hour. I usually book for 30 minutes only because I can blow in 10-15 minutes (but I try to hold off longer to enjoy it more and to make the time last, but usually does not work). It takes me awhile to recover to try a second time, so why waste an extra half hour? If they require hour bookings, then I book for the hour. I used to see Kiss for half hour but she only does hour appointments now, so when I see her, I book for the hour. I still shoot once only but not rushed and leave with 10-15 minutes left. No big deal, not trying to get every last minute. If I am done, I am done.

Sumo1234 60 Reviews 194 reads
posted
17 / 19

I did not mean I was getting kicked out at the 15 minute mark.  I meant at the 45 minute mark (with 15 minutes left).  There are some bookers who stack appointments so when your appointment ends at 1:00 PM, there is already someone with a 1:00 PM appointment.  Add in a clock in the room that is set 5 minutes early, and a booker that calls 10 minutes early to tell the girl that time is up, you can be told time is up at the 45 minute mark.  

I actually think it's cheaper to stay for an hour because 30 minutes is $200.  Another 30 minutes is only $50.  In Korea, I've heard the girls don't like it if you stay longer because you are wasting their time in terms of $ earned per minute.  

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 176 reads
posted
18 / 19

I knew some agencies that did this too. The girls themselves were not rushing me because I already panicked when the phone rang LOL. I don't do 30 minutes but I still usually got out near the 60 minutes mark anyway after both the girl and I rushed through the shower like mad. Well, mainly me so she could have more time to clean up.
 
I tolerated this but I was slightly peeved. Then there are girls who ignore the initial call while we are in the act. I regret that I sometimes make a girl late. Like recently, a girl was reaching for the phone as it rang again. I put my peter in her mouth anyway and blew up right then. She sucked it all up while the phone ringing. I ran to the bathroom but she didn't spit it out as she answered. And I made her late too. I felt like a douche that day :-(

blue5361 194 Reviews 181 reads
posted
19 / 19

On occasion I find a super hot girl with good reviews whose price is slightly above my preferred range, and she offers a 30 minute session, so I check her out for 30 minutes! I come showered and ready to dive in so I can get a good feeling for how a longer session will go.  The time is a little short, but I can decide if she merits 60 minutes or more!

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