Since my thread was removed, I'll ask this again.

when i first got into kgirls, the girl i saw used fake pics and she was nothing like the photos. but she was still hot and young. this gave me a not so good impression of kgirls so i only changed my mind after a mindblowing experience from a kgirl legend in OC.

Respectfully submitted for your consideration...

How would a regular Joe - someone who has zero point zero knowledge of who the girl with fake pics is associated with - distinguish one girl with fake pics and another girl with fake pics. Provided he read zero reviews and has zero innate or preemptive knowledge?

It doesn't make it any less of a bait and switch.

I would not think so. The classic bait and switch is offering something on sale but not having any in stock. When the customer comes in they are directed at some similar item that is not on sale. Customer is not happy. Might not realize they were ripped off, since they think "I made the trip, silly to leave empty handed."

A bait and switch can be anything where the original product is substituted for. If you get a jaguar instead of a Camry, that's a bait and switch too. Maybe I wanted something that is far MORE fuel efficient and something that can fit a family.  

Respectfully submitted for your consideration...

Feel free to make up the definition you wish but at least acknowledge it is non-standard.
http://www.britannica.com/topic/bait-and-switch
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bait%20and%20switch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait-and-switch
http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/bait%20and%20switch
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/bait_and_switch
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-is-bait-and-switch.html

If that wet behind the ears monger books a Mina based on fake pics, and Mina opens the door, then said monger has been baited (false advertising), but he hasn’t been switched (booked with another girl).

One of parts of bait and switch definitions you posted is that the seller has no intention of selling the advertised the product. That is always present. The advertised product is in the picture. The seller used that to make sure you got baited and then actually offered you something else.  

YES

Didn’t know Elle use fake pics til one day she told me they were fakes lol

misleading photos.  A bait and switch means the entire girl was switched, not just her photos.  Nearly all photos are photoshopped, which are often misleading, but if it's the girl who is advertised, by definition, it's NOT a "SWITCH."  There can be bait (enhanced photos) without a concurrent "switch" to a different girl.  

Once again I ask how does one distinguish between fake pics and "the entire girl being switched"? When there are no reviews of this girl at all?  

I am not a frequent poster here but have long term experience w providers dating back almost 2 decades. Make whatever of that you want but I have been biased by the good times of days old and not willing to settle, so have stepped out of the game  

it's pretty clear what I'm saying.  Ask around.  

The hypothetical wet behind the ears monger is baited when he goes in to see girl A. If the Booker pairs him up with Girl B, then he’s been baited AND switched. But if he sees A, he’s only been baited.

to understand.  If Mina was advertised using enhanced or outright fake photos, and Mina is the one you saw, then it is not a bait and switch, it's only a bait.  It's only a switch if you made the appointment to see Mina and the girl they sent you to  WASN'T Mina.  

What if Mina has zero reviews and no one knows who the fuck Mina is?  

I'm okay with stolen pictures so long as they're representative. If a hot girl is at the door who looks reasonably close to the hot girl in the pictures in form, fitness, etc., I'm a happy customer.

a TOFTT scenario (new girl, no reviews matching the name), so read my comments and those of CKS in the posts below on that topic.  I take it that means you are conceding the position you were arguing before?

I'm not changing anything. Why are you so intent on lying?  

In a situation where one has no real knowledge then I agree, it's very hard for the person to really know if they were subjected to X -- in this discussion X = B&S.  

Because - once again - if there's no way to distinguish b&s from fake pics unless you have preemptive knowledge, why wouldn't you use greatest common divisor?

The rest of the forum seems to agree that there is in fact a difference between being bait & switched and fake pics.

Some things never change 😬

There were two posters who agreed with me in this very thread. One said if the pics are far off it's a b&s.  

WTF is the dispute here?

When did rocket ever need a reason to argue?

He should be able to assign bait and switch label to the entity that sold him the product and we better not hear anything out of the seller. He has the full RIGHT to say it's a bait and switch - as what he was sold was not what he was promised.

"Those who argue that if I book a girl who looks like a 20 year old  skinny model, get a 45+ woman who is chubby and I cannot call it a bait and switch, are drinking org kool-aid."

What absolutism?

I asked for the booker(s) name(s).   This is a really awkward deflection given the history of our exchange.  So, you have examples of bait and switch, but you still won't give up the booker?  That sounds like what you are bashing everyone else for.  

"Give me a concrete definition using which ANY client can say it's a bait and switch." That is absolutism in this context.

I named all the bookers who did b&s (according. To my definition, not yours) multiple times. Ginna was with AKD, something that easily can be looked up. Peach cafe, sweetangels, Asian angels all have done several bait and switches.

booker names.  I named the booker.  Why won't you do the same?

It ceases to be bait and switch?

Are you fucking serious ? You think I know POs names in the bay? The only PO names I know l out of 15+ orgs I'm in is Joann  and Dan. And that wasn't by them introducing themselves, just heard them mentioned. Peach cafe had alpaca but I don't think she POs herself anymore for a while.  

I'll give you a hint. We have lots or rules, regulation and laws in place. We have a legal system of courts and standards of evidence that are all in place to help apply those "cut and dry" rules to each and every case. Very seldom does a case got to court that doesn't look a lot like all the other cases that have been or are currently being charged with some violation. Odd that not all of them are guilty findings.  And yes, the lawyers and others debating the matter very often argue about the actual meaning of the rule and how it does or does not apply to the specific case.

Wilful ignorance?
I asked you a simple question.

When a monger in NoVa had his pii distributed for secretly filming a girl?

of the bookers you know, just any bookers that baited and switched you to another girl.  Why do you keep dodging?  I named Booker Gray after I found out his name two years ago.  If there were any bookers I used that I didn't know, I can just ask someone here by PM who the booker is for XYZ agency.  If you know the name of the org, what's stopping you from asking a hobby bro what the booker's name is that did the bait and switch on you?  All of a sudden, as an information hound, you seem to not know how to get information.  How convenient.  I'm sure there is some irony here somewhere.  Lol   Every time you dance around the question, any cred you HAD tumbles a little more.  Don't tell me this is the hill you will choose to die on.  Lol

I would think you would want to know the Bookers names that B 'n' S you, so you can out them for the Mongers/Hobbyists in the BA.
Don't you think that would go along with your agenda to expose the bad practices of the Bookers?

Lmao

Booker is a rep of the org. So I expose the ORG

B & S by Tiana, what is the name of the girl you thought you were seeing, and what is the name of the girl you were switched to?    

http://www.nycbar.org/get-legal-help/article/consumer-law/false-misleading-advertising/ and http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-is-deceptive-advertising.html might clear up your confusion on the term and use of bait and switch versus misleading/false advertising. Hint, the former actually requires some that steers you away from what was offered in the ad to somethings else. False advertising only needs one good/service that is materially different and inferior to what is claimed/implied in the ad.

Yes Jensen, the pic of a supermodel who sometimes isn't even Asian is the bait.

mongers think.  Photos are rarely exact, whether it be from photoshopping to but a Latina butt on an Asian girl, of an inflation of two cup sizes, it's just the eye candy that peaks our interest.  There are even new girls who are "borrowing" photos from the booker's archive of past girls for a few weeks until she earns enough money for her own photoshoot.  All of this has existed for years and most of us know it goes with the territory.  If a guy gets an egregious misrepresentation, then he should walk out if he is so inclined.  However, sometimes, the door opens and the girl is hotter than the one in the photos I thought I was going to see.  In that case, I'm staying.  Lol

I have to do with Booker Gray!
Where did you get that from?
I used him one time a couple of years ago and it was not a B&S.
Actually, it was the real pics for the Kgirl!

I didn't ask for any Booker, Korg or AI names!
Why tell me, especially in the BA?
But you do like to twist, eh Chubby?
Google it, if you need to know!
I could care less about this B n S BS!
I have my game down pretty good and if I get caught up in something, if I can use a TER review phrase, I'm one and done, with that Korg/Booker!

how the system with multiple bookers works.  If a girl's ad is on several org websites, and you book her, it will be with the org whose number you called.  The orgs do not reroute the incoming calls to a central number, so you absolutely DO know exactly which org booker it was.   It was the one you called.  So why not STOP making excuses and tell us who the booker was.  Like I said, if you don't know, you can find out from a fellow BA hobbyist the booker's name at the org you used, and that's who gets the blame for your B & S, NOT the girls.  

Sure thing, I saw a girl named Bambi who looked nothing liker her pics and had mediocre service and looks. I have no idea what was she switched to. SA gas plenty of girls who use fake IG pics and who only stay for a week.

I'm sorry but you are special kind of stupid cdl.

Nonsense. Why would I care about bookers name?

You said that you would think I would know bay area bookers names to steer people away.

you throw your tired, repetitive rant my way.
I asked you to reply to what I write in my posts, not ignore them and give me an older answer, or an irrelevant answer, that has nothing to do with the newest post.
Are you even reading them?