Hey All,
Just moved here from Seattle and noticed its scheduling in San Jose are is a lot more difficult than it was in the northwest. Partially because bookers here don't respond and I don't know when I should start texting. And many times when they do respond, the time they offer differs greatly from my request that I can't fulfill the appointment So that's my questions for the fellow south bay nor cal hobbyists. What's the best time you found to start making arrangements for the day with k girl bookers. And have you fared better by calling or texting by a certain time? Any help is appreciated!!. . .you have to get your foot in the door with the booker to see agency girls. You ARE getting some response because you say you couldn't get the time you wanted. So why not ask the booker which girl he has who is available at the time you want, and start there. Most bookers have anywhere from six to twelve girls for whom they manage the schedule. Once you get the first appointment under your belt, you are an established customer and will receive increasingly better responses on subsequent appointment attempts providing you always show up on time, don't cancel last minute, and the girl reports to the booker that you were respectful and kind.
With agencies, you are a customer of the booker as well as the girl, and your willingness to have a back-up plan so the booker still makes money even if the girl that is your first choice is not available at the time you wanted, will hold you in good stead as you get established.
Just my opinion. I'm sure there are many other good suggestions to come.
Thank you for the reply brother!
I was a regular with K girls in Seattle and I've already seen a couple of k girls in San Jose area and I'm still being treated like this!
I definitely ask for a suggested time or girl (I text at 8 in the morning) and they always reply with "All Full" or simply don't follow up at all.
Hence back to my original question: I've been calling/texting at 8-9am ish and I still get hit with a reply of "Full" or simlply "no". Then what time is a good time to make the appointment if they don't allow pre booking??
Also: I learned from hobbying to refrain from texting multiple POs at once so I don't have to cancel on them if I multiple bookers confirm with me. However, with the current reply stream/answers, I find myself wasting too much time waiting for the PO to reply and get hit with a "All full". What's the best way you think for my situation?
I'm just confused why scheduling is convoluted here lol
This may or may not work for you, but one technique I use quite successfully when I'm traveling to other cities is to look for a touring girl that I have seen in SoCal a few times. Many of the LA girls tour to the BA and the PacNW, so if a girl knows you, you can contact her first, tell her you want to see her, and then ask her to vouch for you with the booker. Once you see her, you should be good with that booker to see anyone else on his roster. I have been approved this way with new bookers in BA, Portland, Seattle and DC by going in the backdoor (no pun intended) through a touring girl that I already knew from LA, OC or SD. Touring girls are happy to trade phone numbers with hobbyists that also travel so they can keep you apprised of where they are working.
Another technique is to request a two-hour session. Bookers love customers who book two hours, because its the same amount of work for the booker, but twice the money. Put the two-hour request in your initial contact. Two-hour sessions also save one of the 30 minute breaks the girls get between customers, making the girl and the org more profitable and efficient that day.
In active hobby communities like LA, OC and BA, if the bookers are busy they will often just blow off new customers until they have time to deal with it. Regulars always get some priority, and VIP regulars who are high-volume with a particular booker, get super-priority to the point that they will allow pre-booking up to a week ahead and/or bump other hobbyists that are already booked in order to accommodate a VIP. All bookers will allow pre-booking for their best customers. You're just not to that level yet. If you can hobby once or twice a week, you will get noticed by the bookers in no time at all.
I have to admit, and maybe it's just me but...
I feel uncomfortable giving any advise to someone writing such a simple request with an Alias.
And, someone from Seattle and their rigorous screening would know it is much easier to get in, in the Bay.
So forgive my simple response of
I do not buy it
But
Good Luck
If the OP is using his real screen name as a reference with bookers so they can check his reviews, and he has asked this question in the manner he did, which bags on the BA bookers a little in general, I can understand his reason for posting it under an alias. Nevertheless, like mufflover, I would always encourage those providing help on public boards to keep things general when giving advice, alias or not. Booker's names should never be shared on a public forum, and I don't even discuss specific bookers in PM's except with well-established trusted fellow hobbyists.
In other words, you can tell someone the "how", but they should be required to find out the "who" and the "where" on their own from ad sites, etc. Again, just the opinion of another cautious hobbyist.
The how is stated on 75% of the ads as well "We start answering calls @ time"
OK
Make calls/texts between 8:30 and 9:00, whatever the ad requests.
Do not pester with multiple texts, Good way to get BL'd
If you have not got a reply in 5 to 10 minutes, move on to plan B, then plan C
If you have not got an appointment by 10 or 11, give up and try again tomorrow. Girls book quickly in the bay, some VERY quickly
Do not bother with the most popular girls until you are known.
Look for ads where they do not mention references which is getting more rare by the day.
Good Luck
Thank you both for answering my post. coeur-de-lion is exactly right on why I'm posting with an alias. I don't want to get flagged by them as Bad Mannered. Also, I am not having any problem with screening or what not. If the PO actually replies to me, I usually get it no problem. I'm just frustrated with not even given the chance!
I have another question to both of you for LA and BA:
1. Some PO truly respond on some days and not on others. Would it be wise to just send one text every morning or would that be considered "Pestering" them for giving the same request day after day without getting a reply.
2. Would the availability get better once "you are known". I am not planning on having to make plans all the time early in the morning and never getting the chance to prebook.
Thanks for the hot tip about giving up by 10 - 11AM. This is very new to me coming from the Northwest. As a regular, I was able to see a girl within 30 minutes if i really wanted to most of the time (I usually try to book 3-5 hours beforehand).
OK
Make calls/texts between 8:30 and 9:00, whatever the ad requests.
Do not pester with multiple texts, Good way to get BL'd
If you have not got a reply in 5 to 10 minutes, move on to plan B, then plan C
If you have not got an appointment by 10 or 11, give up and try again tomorrow. Girls book quickly in the bay, some VERY quickly
Do not bother with the most popular girls until you are known.
Look for ads where they do not mention references which is getting more rare by the day.
Good Luck
I still like texting the booker and telling him you want to see someone at XX:00 and asking who is available. By taking his recommendation you are showing your willingness to be flexible and to work with him. The booker is the gate keeper and says who gets in. I have had to do this with several when I first started in LA after hobbying in OC for a few years. I was getting no responses by asking for a specific very popular girl, but when I changed my approach and let the booker suggest a girl to see the first few times, I was soon rewarded by getting to see all of the most popular girls that that booker had.
While I've seen a few in LA I am no expert.
The few girls I have seen down there, I pre-screened weeks in advance then prebooked my appointments a about week before hand.
On a day to day basis I am the wrong person to ask.
In the Bay, once you are known to an Org, as in reliable and a frequent flier, pre-booking should get easier.
some even let you prebook at an extra charge but I never do that.
Your used to booking in 30 minutes up north. While there are some great girls up there (I really want to meet Mischa, Julie, and Lindsey some day) it appears the demand is not quite as high as down here.
Here, once a girl is booked for the day, many PO's will just not reply, that is your clue that she is booked, Or, taking the day off.
Unless you are tipping "ALOT" including the booker/PO, I doubt just being known is going to get you preferential treatment over other known guys.
anywhere from 20 to 50 if the girl is exceptional but, usually my tip is return visits.
I have not idea what ALOT is though as my 20 to 50 does not get it for me.
I just tip for what I consider exceptional service
A hundred an hour is ALOT. Fifty an hour is not for most hobbyists, but it is for some girls, and is always greatly appreciated in my experience.
How do you guys do the tipping? At the end and just hand it to her?
haha Stupid question, probably going to get a stupid answer =P
It is awkward to hand a girl cash at the end of the session. Its better to just slip it into the envelope, even if she sees you. If its a first appointment and the girl has taken the envelope out of the room as they are want to do with new customers, then just lay it where they are sure to see it, dresser or nightstand, but don't ever do the slick handshake while passing the cash like you would with a concierge or maître d'.
One thing I like to do with new girls is to tip on spec, by having a modest tip already in the envelope and watch their face when they check it. Usually results in a awesome session right out of the gate. I've even had a few try to return the overpayment like I made some kind of the mistake, but I just say its for you and get treated very well as a result.
A side benefit is that girls always tell the bookers who the tippers are, so if you tip a second tier girl, the booker will know and will get you into see the top girls, because the best girls like tips, too. Duh.
I do alot of my tipping by repeating if I like her.
but, if I know the girl and have seen her many times and like her, if I plan on tipping I just give it to her at the beginning.
If she is new and or is exceptional as I stated in my other post, the tip is obviously after the session
I've never bothered with tipping. I normally just repeat if they are still in town.
Obviously, tipping is nice and will be appreciated. But, I know that not tipping doesn't hurt you either.
I recently visited a K-Girl and I gave her my donation right in the beginning and asked her to count (I do always ask them to count , though it is embarrassing...but gets out of any confusion due to language barrier). After she put away the donation I pulled her close and kissed her on her lips and then moved to each tit (still in bra) and as I kissed I slipped a $20 in each cup without her noticing. Within few min she proceeded to remove her bra and two $20s fell out of her bra she was all laughing loud and so happy and glowing...I do not need to explain how all that happiness was delivered to my Johnny during the rest of the session, do I?