Mostly just venting but also curious if anybody else is having issues in WLA or Culver City today.

K bookers are usually very efficient.   Yesterday set up an appt to meet at 10 am today with a new 1 review girl and was told to confirm at 9:00 am.  I did, no response.   Again at 9:30 to ask for specific location address, no response.  Arrived at the presumed location (from past experience) about 7-8 minutes early and again texted to no response.   Waited till 10.15 in case somebody slept in but never a response.  Drove back to work  and just asked for an explanation.  Crickets?

I'm going to drop it because I will only antagonize them at this point but I'm a little peeved at the complete lack of communication.

between Culver City/Playa and WLA.  If you name the girl, somebody here might know something.  If you expect us to guess, you're not going to get helpful information.  

 
With that said, check the girl's CV ad and see if "available now" is lit up.  That will tell you if she's working today at all.  Have you worked with this org before, or are you a new customer with them?  Bookers are a little skittish right now with new guys because of recent LE activity.

Didn't want to name the girl as it is not necessarily her fault.

I believe I have used this agency before but they did have me go through screening again.  She is NOT listed as available now although her ad was reposted this am. Could just be she is on "vacation" and booker just didn't want to deal with me.

Ads looked normal to me this morning.  Maybe the girl in question is not working today so the phone is turned off.

They will at least get back to you with a phony excuse if they bumped you or some other issue came up.  There are many guys on the Westside that book two hours and bookers will often bump others to give them priority.  It has happened to me when I was booking only one hour, especially with a new booker.  I had one last week where the booker didn't get back to me until 15 minutes after my appointment time.  It turned out that there was a cleaning person in the hallway right outside the door to the incall.  When I heard that, I was glad the booker was keeping me safe, but at the time, I thought I was being treated rudely.  I would recommend trying again in a few days when the ad light is on and if they are still non-responsive, then it might be a case where one of your references gave you a black eye.  Bookers ghost with new guys all the time, but rarely with guys they have already screened.  Its a real puzzler.  

...You're the damn customer!!  Would you put up with that shit if you had an appointment at any other business, but when you got there, the business was closed?  Of course not!  Grow a pair!

As is often said on other boards:  "I will beg for pussy; I will pay for pussy, but I will never beg to pay for pussy."  But that's exactly what you're doing.  You'll go crawling back to the booker and try to see another one of the booker's hookers.  Why don't you grow a beard so you don't have to look at yourself in the mirror.

You know perfectly well that if you piss off the booker you get black listed.

1. Never get involved in a land war in Asia;
2. Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line; and
3. Don't get into a pissing contest with a k-girl booker.

He's NEVER seen a Kgirl, and its been 15 years since he's seen ANY Asian girl.  He's our resident troll, sort of like a donkey mascot a sports team might have.  You know, a little bell around his neck, craps on his foot, makes annoying sounds, all of that stuff.   Comes on here and rants about stuff he has no personal knowledge of.  He should be viewed only for the entertainment value of the unintended comedy he provides.  Ignore the content of his posts.  

 
I like your three rules to live by, although I'm not likely to ever need the first two.  Lol

As a former donkey (technically an Ass) LuciusApuleius has some Sympathy for BigPapi (no offense to the BoSox).

Really, you act like a troll too.

a troll is someone who has nothing of substance to contribute but goes on the board just to stir up shit.  I try to share what knowledge I have gained about the Kgirl scene with other hobbyists here.  An example is in the link below.  I can't recall you ever contributing much of anything here.  I mostly remember you from popping saying, "Why did you use your alias?"  Even your reviews are of questionable value because they are just a laundry list of activities and have nothing that would allow the reader to get a feel for the girl's attitude, playfulness, sense of humor, etc.  I'm not suggesting they are fake, just not much substance.  

 
Perhaps you would like to reply with some links to posts you have put up on this board that contain information that is helpful to other hobbyists, Newbies in particular.  

 
In the meantime, take a look at this thread and see who the only two posters were that didn't try to contribute something of substance to the conversation.  Tell us what you come up with.  Lol

I was blacklisted by one PO (who I have surprisingly grown to appreciate and like) for putting my nose in business it didn’t belong, after that I always felt fear of fucking up with a PO. One time I asked Moli why she doesn’t come back to OC and I started to worry if I would get in trouble for my question.

The fear is real for me.

On the plus side, the blacklisting helped me talk to the PO in a more fearless manner, and I grew to respect the PO and even like the PO, I want to be the POs friend, haha, okay maybe not friend but I would enjoy the rare and brief conversations. Later on the PO reapproved me for visits, and now I am a little more hesitant to say things that I would comfortably say when I was blacklisted.

First, everyone writes differently. I don't need to please you about my sessions with the girls. You seem to know everything about all the houses when you really don't.
I don't need to be the Top poster in every thread or discussion board like you seem you wanna be?

Also, been doing this way longer than you and I don't need to prove my knowledge to you.  

So, what is your other handle on TER?

 Or, are you really Tulip's "helicopter buddy?

Also, I say always us alias cause ther are newbie terds that like to claim they are new to scene when actuality they are guys who've been Bl'std (sure you're aware to that, and le.

And, about that link sometimes too much info not necessary.  This is a hobby where you live and learn.

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...You claim to see "indies" but you've never reviewed even one.  Silkstalkings doesn't constantly talk about seeing "indies."  He lets his reviews do the talking.  He's not a bullshitter.

With three reviews in 13 years.  So are you saying those three are the only ones you've seen, or you would have reviewed the rest?  Or are there times you see a girl and DON'T review her?  Must be difficult to talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.

Would do me a favor and probably many others, stop mentioning you see indie providers in your posts. After all what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Correctamundo!!

I am always generous about returning favors.  However, I can't recall the instance where you ever earned a favor from me.  Do you have a sense of entitlement, or what?  If I just forgot, which I admittedly do sometimes, perhaps you could refresh my memory by linking or describing how I became indebted to you for a favor?  There are about fifty guys here who if they asked me that, I would, but for most of them, it doesn't make any difference because they are Kgirl fans, so they would never ask in the first place.  Why does it matter to you?  How is your hobby experience diminished in any way by the fact that I don't review the indies I see.  

 
It was LilMamasan that called me out first, so perhaps your goose goes to him?  (No pun intended.)

 
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Fuck all you new guys.  Nobody helped you, so you're not helping them, even if you did know something.  Nice attitude.  At least you make no bones about being a dick.  Kudos for that.  

to be the top poster.  As you say, you don't write that well.  Actually, you called it writing  "differently."    I challenged you to link to ONE thing that you EVER posted here that would be helpful to another hobbyist, and you can't.  Doesn't that sort of make you a troll?  When you post here, its only to attack someone, right?

 
You need to do your homework next time before you embarrass yourself by saying you've been doing this a lot longer than me.  If you click the bar at the top of the Kgirl page that says Top 10 Posters, you will see that I joined TER in October 2008, about six months before your first review.  I posted exclusively on another site until two years ago when they closed.  I was the third highest reviewer nationally with over 250 reviews.  Same CDL handle.  When that place closed, a few hundred of us came over here.  Now I also have a few reviews here, as do you.  

 
If you think I have another TER handle, you should report me to TER.  I see you're one of the black helicopter crowd that still thinks I'm Arnott.  He was posting license plates of hobbyists on his website until I made him an offer he couldn't refuse.  Then he shut down crusade to out hobbyists.  You should be thanking me.  

 
Finally, which "house" do you think I don't know about?  Are you talking about agencies/orgs, or one of the many Kgirl residences I have been to when they're not working?  If you're going to talk smack, provide some details.  

 
Now about that link to something constructive here that you EVER said?  If you don't have even ONE, then you are by definition a troll and should STFU.  

I think he is the record holder for being engaged in the most board fights with the most board members at the same time.

 
I think you now have him beat by a mile. Personally, I think you "often" bring a lot to the board, especially this one, WHEN you are being all preachy, judgmental and an all around "hobby snob" that is. lol But when you can't seem to get along with ANYONE, with me as the possible exception and I am an admitted asshole, is EVERYONE else in the wrong, or is it possible that it's you? lol

 
As for SS, he has quite a few very helpful posts and despite your protestations to the contrary his reviews are every bit as helpful as yours and nowhere near as verbose.  Quite frankly after skimming a couple of your reviews and his, I can actually read his all the way to the end, I get a paragraph or two into yours and quit reading.

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If SS has some helpful posts from the distant past, perhaps you can help him out by linking them.  He can't seem to remember where he left them, if they indeed existed in the first place.  You're first going to have to wade through 50,000 posts of his asking, "Why are you using your alias."  I would suppose you could argue those are helpful.   I think its telling that you don't think he can handle this little challenge by himself.  He attacked me out of the blue, so why do you feel compelled to try to rescue him when I respond in kind?  Is it something personal?  Or is it just the old guard sticking together no matter what?

 
I have no idea what a hobby snob is.  I don't see anyone over $500/hr.  I help a lot of guys through PM, they know what I'm like.  

 
Would all of the veterans like it if I took a vacation form posting until after the holidays?  If YOU ask me to take a break, I will.  I'll just grab me a Kgirl, and take her on a vacation.  

But please don't take a hiatus.  No one likes a good train wreck better than me and you've provided some good ones for a poster not called Jake.  If you really want to leave, my suggestion is you get into HUGE one with the ever-annoying LilMamasan until both of you get put on a time out.  To encourage you, here's one of my favorite train wreck gifs.

First off you are about to take over my spot as TER's "Biggest Blabbermouth" and it will be nice to give up the title.  

 
Plus everyone knows how much I love a trainwreck, and you are right in the middle of just about all of them lately. So PLEASE don't stop posting, don't let a few little set backs discourage you from posting

A bunch of petty bullshit.  Are we in grade school?  Seriously guys, gals, not helping the cause here.  If you want to share info, please do, but I’ve almost had enough.  Wasn’t there a warning?

418 to 351. But he’s not the number one blabbermouth. Technically that belongs to an agency that has 500 posts,  but they advertise a lot of providers on a lot of ad boards.

I understand perfectly why you didn't want to name her. I would still see her regardless of this.
 
You could also have pretended to ask anyone knew what happened to her because you got worried since there was no response. I wanted to know her name so I can find out which booker did this to you.
 
I believed you got BL. Less likely was something happened and booker did not care enough about a new customer to bother after they resolved the issue. If they care, they will respond to you even if not the same day, unless they lose the phone.

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I HAVE decided  that I've had enough.  This just proves no good deed goes unpunished.  Yes, I have a weakness for levity when I should sometimes be more serious, and I will always punch a bully in the face when I'm attacked, but I have mostly tried to be helpful here and  have always shared information here that I thought would help others more easily navigate the Kgirl world.  There are a lot of great guys here, and the assholes are few by comparison, but the assholes seem to band together more than the good guys and it makes it not fun here anymore.    

 
I have taken this afternoon to line up a couple of dream vacations.  I accepted an invitation to visit a retired Kgirl in Seoul in a couple of weeks, and I am taking another Kgirl to Hawaii in December, so this will be my last post for awhile.  The time I save not posting will allow me to see two additional Kgirls a week, so its a win-win for everyone involved, especially the veterans who think I have nothing to contribute here.  I will continue to post my reviews and anyone that has PM'd me in the past is welcome to continue to do so.  Other than the two weeks I will be vacationing, I will try to answer all PM's in a timely manner as always.  If you haven't PM'd me before, I will not answer any from new senders, so you needn't bother trying.  I will suggest if you new guys have questions about the Kgirl market in LA that you PM SilkStalkings, who seems to think he knows more about the local scene than I do.  Maybe he does.  That's for you guys to decide.  Just don't use your alias with him.  He sees LE behind every tree, shrub, and mailbox.  I will not be adding any unsolicited posts on any topics here, so any questions or concerns you have about rotation of girls, LE activity, price increases, outside dating, or anything else Kgirl-related, please direct them to SilkStalkings.  

 
I will re-evaluate my position after the holidays, but for now, consider me "retired" from board posts. I'm just going to see more girls and write reviews of the experiences.  I know they will be too long for those with short attention spans to read, but I like writing them, so they can go fuck themselves.  Lol

I will have little to read and learn from... but relax and have fun. You and Nightisdark are the reason I like to post so much here. If you are gone then it may be a good time for me to finally STFU like I always said I should LOL. I would have come to your defense but you were doing so well so I had little reason to butt in.
 
I have no problem with your posts whatsoever and you can at least get a chuckle from me. I can't say anything bad about your reviews because if I write one then I will try to take up all the space. I thought your reviews were helpful when I read a few. We should all just relax and go see more K-girls and be happy instead of fighting on here. The K-girls need our support!
 
You are still on the Mount Rushmore of my most respected posters. Speaking of Mount Rushmore, if Christine is reading, she was also inducted to my hall of fame with her last post when I finally realized how intelligence she was.

Enjoy your time off from the board, sometimes it’s nice to take a break and come back with a fresh perspective.

No doubt about your huge constructive contribution on this board, it’s been helpful and has created good information and entertaining discussion, hell ye. Even when I have a different perspective it’s nice to see yours. Your continuous attacks on some fellows I consider extreme. I am sure you have your reasoning, especially when some fellows will be going off topic trolling.

I prefer your more friendly and constructive community discussion that you have regularly brought to the forum, makes it fun to come and read discussion created by your topics and posts.

I’d rather you and bigpapasan be friendly again.

Kgals travels sound like it will be an adventure.  

Come back soon.

...you have a weakness AT levity.  I've never seen anyone whose jokes fell so flat that he constantly had to say he was joking and then have to explain the joke.  Sad!

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For those still interested and awake after that entertaining and discursive repartee, the lady in question was Heejin.  Her privacy is academic at this point.  The booker texted me last night to explain that she had "run away, without any explanation or even saying good bye".

I assume she won't be back and if she ever does return will certainly be under a new name.   This doesn't really excuse though may explain why the booker never communicated with me at the time of the appointment.

Better,

 
Make no mistake i read the General, K-Girl , Las vegas, and Phoenix boards every morning when coffee and I am free.

 
I post when I think I have something that is on thread to add. But in most circumstance anything I can add either been said many times before or only personal opinion and no fact support. If I miss a post by a day or so because I am busy then no need for me to add to the post just to be have a post.

 
I been on TER several years before I really post. But really not pay much attention because its no big item in Asia. Here in US its big item and I learn a lot more about the thoughts and ways of both provider and clients. While in Asia i really only read the general and newbie board. Also in Asia hobby much different than US when it comes to actual escort.  

 
I try to avoid "train-wreck" as much as possible. Not because of the obvious, but because I actually like debate. In my home we can argue hours what vegetable to partner with what meat for dinner. Its Filipino way.  

 
But the amount of time to search for factual information eats time. Honestly my day is busy enough to find time for school, family and fuck. A train wreck as far as I can tell, actually never end. Most sometimes just end when TER get sick of it and close the thread. Someone is always going argue opposite opinion or facts. I dont have time argue/debate fpr days and hours.

 
Its funny to think some people dont realize the value of what can be read here. Understanding the thoughts and the way people support their thoughts can say a lot of that person. It can go long way into my thoughts of that person.  

 
I can say this without worry of offend. I have thoughts as how each person who post often would be as client. And I will use GaG and CDL as example. Maybe i am wrong and have no doubt if GaG or CDL read this, and if wrong have no doubt they will let me know.

Gag.....he wanna fuck. Very technical and as my uncle would say, clinical. He knows he can masturbate and cum, so what he expect is good fun very real fuck. Let us drink, eat and fuck, repeat. He has no interest in making provider his GF, but will respect her as long as she respect him and his needs. If she really good and they form bond, then he can be very much a repeat on mutual terms. He will never be happy or repeat appointment with provider he does not feel give 100%. Any girl try to bullshit him during appointment will never see him again.  

 
CDL.....he wanna fuck, but he also like a bit more intimate connection to repeat. He will see girls that not 100% perfect but stimulate him in his mind as well. He will spend time to see if the girl meet his personal desire before he will mark her off list. He will form friendship if all is good and fun for mutual agreeable more appointments. CDL would be honest easy for new girl to make big mistake. CDL has lots experience and see through bullshit of provider easy i bet. He has what seems means to be able to move on very easy no matter how good provider is if she is bullshit.

 
Both would be excellent clients, just need treat a little different. But without read the post they make how would I know if ever i make appointment to treat in best way. The board comments, train wrecks allow my sight to form an opinion. Maybe thats good maybe thats bad. Maybe I am totally wrong also and I can accpet that.

 
I am simple girl, only a few other providers I know. So my ability limited to get information on possible clients has limit. The board is one way to get simple sight of thoughts of others.

 
I am sorry if if I offend Gag and CDL, but they both easy to use example as lots of posts. I am sure if they feel I am wrong they will let me know and I will correct what I think. And course I am aware my posts allow clients to form opinion my thoughts also. But like both CDL and GAG, dont care as I cant change who I am.

 
But I do thank you for thinking of me in a positive way. I hope everyone have a great day and now time fill my coffee again.

 
Christine

LOL, I've never claimed I know everything about the Kscene, I just lived and learned about the kscene booking appts like everyone else. You see girls you like and see girls you won't see again.

I'll leave that Title for you!

Girls come and go, so beside the obvious goal, one of my primary goals of hobbying is to be in good terms with the major POs in LA.  Most of the POs are super prompt, and I believe they do periodically check the reviews and posts here, which I respect and appreciate.  For the past few months, there is one or potentially two POs (likely handling Lina, Jessie, Megan and possibly Ena, Cynthia) that I have not been able to get a hold of, ever.  I usually text once and then once more if they don't respond after an hour.  Sometimes long after the posting time and sometimes right after the posting time if environment permits, if you know what i mean.  I have even applied for a local number 323 just to tease out the possibility of being somehow blacklisted, yet no response!  This feeling of 'not getting in a club' is driving me nuts.

For those that are already 'in', is this PO or these POs not accepting new clients anymore?  

I doubt anyone beside the PO would know the answer to this, so I'm just here... venting, as this is the more appropriate place to vent about KG POs. Cheer guys

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...and I kept trying for a few months before I was in If I am you, I would keep trying to politely text different references ONCE a week or two weeks for their new gal until I get in. I don't think there is such thing as a PO who is not accepting new clients.
 
All I know is that I can't remember being disappointed with this PO or these POs perhaps never. The gals are all good performer there. They usually use real pics more than most. I also feel that many new dudes are trying to get in, including dudes that were blacklisted before, so they may be too busy to verify you. I can only hope they are tough on screening for the safety of us all. Sound like you already tried for a few months. I would never give up and keep sending a prayer until I get lucky. I felt lucky when I got in with them unexpectedly.

If the add says "Call" you might have that instead of text. They might not pick up and I'd never trust voicemail if it even works.  I've text that org a few times and not gotten a prompt response (which I define as about 20 minutes or less when the booker knows me). When I then follow up by calling, she either picks up or immediately answers my text.

I meant to say you might "try" that.  The calling is just to set up the appointment. Text works fine and promptly when you show up to get buzzed in.

If she booked you once she will book you again. Somthing must have happened. Shit happens.