https://biz.chosun.com/en/en-international/2025/09/29/RGBI3ZIYANB4VMY66THDLHNI4A/

should have your facts straight.  Your article says the incident was at Sky Spa, a massage parlor in Ohio.  Massage parlors are referred to as AMP's (Asian Massage Parlors), not AAMP's (Asian Apartment Massage Parlors).  The first are usually store front locations in strip centers.  The second are usually two-bedroom apartments in upscale modern apartment complexes with an escort working out of each bedroom.  

I vote for the cock-cage. If LE doesn't get you than STD will.  Or the other way around. So be afraid. Or you wife will get you and after her legal eagle is done with you you'd be moving into the homeless shelter.  

I wonder how many customers they infected with HIV in Ohio?  
With ages 57, 55, 48, and 53, I wonder how many customers thought they were in their 20s?  
Also, the narrative has changed from human trafficked individuals to prostitutes.  Interesting article and thank you for sharing.  

Since we are talking about non gay sex services, most likely the HIV spread was heightened by herpes also being involved.  when someone is infected by both herpes and hiv, they can spread it much easier.  this also explains the fact the korean provider getting herself tested and testing positive (and still working unfortunately). herpes presents itself much more prominently and alarmingly than hiv does (usually).  koreans are notorious for not getting tested for illnesses.  they will try to grind through the toughest of conditions.  

kind of recently too, that there are hobbyists that see TS providers and Kgirls.
The bad part, iirc, is that they aren't open to telling the Kgirls and Bookers that they are seeing TS providers.

in the context of a monger here who is a TS-customer but hides that fact from bookers by booking Kgirls though his alias and books the Trannies from his TER username.  This is intentionally deceptive because he knows that many Kgirls will not see men who also see trannies specifically for the reason that the serious STD's are statistically more common from male-to-male sexual encounters.  This makes it a little scary for a Kgirl customer to consider he might be fucking a Kgirl BB that has recently taken another dick BB that was in a tranny ass, also BB, before her.  Double Yikes!!!!

And you also have to worry about those who top from the bottom - your special kind of faggotry!

I dont get it. Why would someone tell the booker who else they're seeing? Like unsolicitedly too.

I think you can get your answer from the posts above!
Plus, it's not very pro monger to raise the risks!  
Also, it's the epitome of being deceitful!
But with you and your anti monger and anti-truth stance, I can see how you'd have a fit with my post just being MO!!

Self-ban, what fuckin' fantasy world do you live in?

I didn't get that bit about it being fine to ignore a knows STD and keep offering the service to the customers. But I long ago I realized the myopia in rockets positions.

I've always championed the truth and pro-monger positions. Are you drunk?

At least people are starting to admit the threat of catching an std  from a kgirl is real and will probably happen. not that long ago, when the topic of std's came up, a lot of guys would just trash anyone who said they might have gotten an std from kgirl mongering.  they would say theres no way he got it from a kgirl, he probably got it from the  wife (whos 65 and 250 pounds with cobwebs in her vag that hasn't seen a dick in decades).

Kgirls are high volume sex workers. They don't really test unless they have symptoms. Mongers sadly also don't test as often as needed and many times you can get infected in between your tests so even if you're diligent you can get it. Even if you doxy prep you can get it.  

Some of the STD's I've had were from indies, but others were from Kgirls, so it's the risk of the business in general, not endemic to just Kgirls.  In fact, for me, it's been about 60-40, with slightly more coming from indies.  

from the bottom, so I don't even know what that means.  However, you claim has something to do with faggotry, and it's telling that you know what it is and I don't.  Is there something you want to come out on that you've been keeping a secret?  I don't think anyone here would be surprised if you switched sides.  In fact, whenever I say anything that is not complimentary about TS providers, it's the guys who see them who get bent out of shape.  Just sayin'.

how about you? I know your stance and outlook on P4P. I thought MAYBE you'd know that I was playfully messing with you. I had an idea that you'd snap and think, wrongfully, that I was serious about the anti-monger/truth statement.  

Do you think anyone in the bay area reports to any Booker whom they were fucking outside of their org?  

You didn't even understand. If telling a Booker that one fucks TS, can result in expulsion, why would someone do that?  That was my point. Why would someone voluntarily do this unless they want a self-imposed ban?

There’s no such thing as a “self imposed ban”. Only a booker can impose a ban, not a client. A client can boycott an agency, but he can’t “ban” himself from an agency.

If you know something will result in a ban and you do it on purpose, it would be a self-imposed ban.

self-ban, I only said the deceitful guy ain't doing it!

I assumed everyone knew what you meant by self imposed. Yikes that was funny though

FUCKING hatred, racist, or anti anything at me!
I never said anything about what anyone wants or does in all my posts, other than being truthful to the Kgirl or any provider and let *them* have the option to fuck the guy or not.

that is being deceitful and selfish!
Once again, I guess I can be repetitive too, at least the provider should know to make the call, just MO!
But, once again just MO, being deceitful and selfish is on both sides of P4P with the girls to clients and customers to providers, family 'n' friends! Just how I see the reality of the whole "World of Suzie Wong"!
God, I love Nancy Kwan!

I dont tell girls who I fuck. I don't tell bookers who I fuck.

I didn't throw anything anti at you, Badger. Not have I implied it.

you are omitting information in your example.  Statistically, HIV is more likely to be transferred by male to male anal sex than male to female.  So when you say you have had bbfs Greek, it makes a difference if the providers involved were GG, or TS, which you did not disclose, so it's impossible to answer your question accurately about whether you are being deceitful. Tthe monger that was referred is being deceitful by switching back and forth between his alias and his username depending on whether he's reviewing a Kgirl or a TS provider.  

you lie or hide something.
If you can't figure out how hobbyists are deceitful to their family or friends, maybe you can Google it.
Hint; it ain't only about fucking!
You went off on a tangent, MO, about being deceitful. I started it about the guy I asked, "if he was honest with the Kgirls about fucking guys". Once again, knowing he would not be honest with them, so IMO, that is deceitful.
About you, I got no fucking idea!
But what would you do if you knew, or the provider said in the kick back time of a session that she doesn't see or like clients that do Greek with women, men or even sheep? And has had them BL'd when she found out?  
You can ask and answer that, to and for yourself, it doesn't matter or affect me in any way!  
I really don't care about who's doing what to who, if it doesn't affect me! Also, it's none of my business!

all girls who do ymmv bare or even bare Greek, also deceitful and selfish?

So what constitutes hiding something?

Yes this means guys who fuck TS and fuck other guys as well as girls.

to say you are another one who sees TS providers BB and then sees Kgirls BB.  Like I said earlier, only the guys who do this think it's fair to deceive the Kgirls by keeping it a secret and then exposing their fellow mongers to the additional risk that comes with it.  You have always been one who espouses looking out for your fellow mongers.  This argument that its okay to spread the risk in secrecy certainly makes you look the opposite of what you say.  Looking out for number one is okay, generally, but when you are putting others at increased risk, they have a right to know about it so that they can choose to accept the risk, or pass.  You are taking that away from them.  

i want to thank you -- i have been tempted to stick my "toe" into the KGirl BBFS scene for the first time ..  but now i am going to pass !     bad enough going occasionally BBFS with someone UTR even if recently tested!  

would be safe, just start with your toe.
Wait a couple of weeks and if there aren't any symptoms, move on to a thumb and progress from there^^!

No, but even if I were it's none of your or anyone else's business.

...favorite insult.  He does it all the time.  He seems to be obsessed with it.  "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

work for me and I used to have one TS, but she left to go back to college.  I have one Lesbian executive working for me (my number two) that has been with me almost since the beginning of my business, over 30 years ago.  She will be the first to tell you that I have no problem with gays or Lesbians; my problem is with people who are phony.  Even TS providers on TER who occasionally post on the boards who I have PM'd with will tell you I'm non-judgment about anybody BEING gay or trans.  I AM judgmental about being phony, and that should be clear from the things I have said about this topic, which is much narrower than you are misrepresenting.  As long as people own who they are, I have no problem with them. They can be any part of LGBTQ+ and I will get along fine with them unless they have a chip on their shoulder.  The mere fact that you contend that you can "accuse" someone of being gay, shows that YOU believe it's a derogatory term rather than just a neutral statement of fact.    

about twice a year, so which one are you going to do whatever it is that you think you can do?  Do the math.  17 times 2.  How do you know it's the current one, and even if it is, I change it again and it becomes obsolete.  You really didn't think this through, did you?  All you will be doing is enhancing my cred by proving I have well more than 400 reviews.  Lol

Uses It as his last dig at someone, regardless of which forum. When all else fails, go to the TS card.  
What I find assuming is that there's a few, who will get their poms poms out, giggle like high school cheerleaders and go along with it.

worn out the race card.  Irony 101.  

No matter how you squirm and worm your way...its still a chicken shit play,

In order for something to be deceitful, there has to be a lie about something.

http://www.13abc.com/2025/09/29/135-people-arrested-statewide-human-trafficking-crackdown/

defending the intentional concealment of fellow mongers potentially catching HIV because of information that is being withheld do to manipulation of an alias, I don't see how it's a chicken-shit play.  If someone other than me had brought this up, I would be thanking them.  You see Kgirls, too.  Do you not care if there is an increased danger of HIV transmission by what they are doing and they are purposely concealing their TS proclivities in order to not get banned from seeing the SAME Kgirls you are seeing?

I know the risk, I accept it. If the risk are too risky for you then maybe this isn't for you. We don't ask how many creampies a girl gets before a appointment is made or do we start flagging a girl because she's been with a TS. Is that what we're going to do??
But here's the deal, we're all adults, we see what we see...Do you want to be a the board police and warn other, "Oh this guy see TS.
But that's not what I was getting at, it seems when you get blown out of a debate, and you have nowhere to attack, then you pull out the TS card...just throw it out there like a "take that"...that's what so chicken shit about your move. its a last ditch effort to get one on.

perfect reply !!

Grampa,