giving info like this to an agency than an independent provider.  Agencies have a reputational interest to protect and cannot risk the fallout from screwing over a single client.  Risk assessment is up to the individual in this biz, but when I am asked for something like you were, I will first try some redactions.  They generally want to know that you are not LE, so if you have a paystub from a well-known company and you redact your home address, your SS# and any other Identifying info, they may still accept it with the redactions.  

These clients trusted the livelihoods and reputations to Boston Top 10, a once prominent escort agency in the greater Boston area.

I would just point out that everyone that is arrested and arraigned has their name called out in court and once you're been taken in whether you gave PII in screening or not makes no difference at all. I'll let someone else correct this if they know but from what I've seen none in the agency was offering up the client list to get some reduced sentence.

Not sure what you are trying to say here.

They got the phone logs/tap from the telco and used the surveillance video that was synced with the phone information. There was a statement about matching the surveillance images to the Mass. drivers registry pics (DL photo). For those that gave their real phone number, it was easier to identify those DL records and certainly if anyone provided a completely unredacted image of their license even easier.  

True, but how much of it was because Leos already had everything they needed? They had access to brothel phone and logs, so you can't bargain with something that Leos already have.  

So the claim people want to make here is that someone that is of no general public interest were to provide PII to get into some K-agency and see some K-girls like he is thinking he might face the risk that the agency gets busted and LE looks at the list of people to pursue and too few in the list are of more public interest so he gets busted?

Op never mentioned a korg or corg or Latina org. There are many agencies of all kinds. I believe we aren't strictly talking about korgs. Korean agencies are probably the most trustworthy of the bunch.  

Hey guys, do I need to remind you that brothels and agencies are criminal organizations and you should act accordingly? These K-girl agencies are involved in immigration fraud and help smuggle illegals across the border. They aren’t some small time agency just pimping a few girls. They are complex organization with international reach and ties. You guys act like they run a church choir and have a perfect rating from the Better Business Bureau. I don’t trust the criminal organizations engaged in international human trafficking with my personal data because I don’t assume they’re scrupulous for some reason. Also, they’re way more likely to get targeted by LE for a bust. We all saw what happened in Boston. Everyone has their own risk profile but I don’t think agencies are safer than independent girls.

...I've been in enough of both and seen things that cement that opinion.  FWIW, neither is on my radar anymore for different reasons but primarily I think the C-orgs are running illegals in here and basic sex slaves or indentured servants.  What I saw first hand was many years ago but there were a few in MPLS that operated and one was off E. Lake behind the Dairy Queen if any MN mongers are reading this.  It was a rented house that had 6-8 women working/living there.  I was young, naïve and ignorant to many things around me and probably around 1986 or so.  I had a bad session with a woman who just had no interest in doing anything until I finally got up, got dressed and started to leave.  The mamasan asked why I was leaving and told her the gal wasn't wanting to do anything.  She was dragged out of the room while being screamed at in chinese, up the hallway and thrown down onto the couch with others there hanging out.  Nobody said a fucking word other than mamasan who grabbed another girl and pushed her down the hallway and told me to follow her.  I barked at her to settle knock it off and settle down and I was still leaving and she started yellilng at me to go fuck her.  

Many corgs I've been to myself have had setups with no mms and similar to korgs they'd operate from residential apartments. In fact, some of them would be on same block and/or building as korgs.

I also think there is a vast cultural difference between Korean and Chinese and I'll start with the political system.  NK is the worst where people are basically livestock where SK is a democratic republic where the standard of living is more like the west.  The Chicoms....different story alltogether.  The rulers believe the population and government are a single entity and the good of the party outweighs the cost to any single person.  They steal and cheat at every opportunity and I believe sponsored by the party in our country to divert as much American capital back home as possible.  They use multiple business sectors to push their citizens into and I believe it is highly organized.  I've been involved in commercial property development and placed no less that 15 chinese restaurants inline in retail centers in the midwest.  Not a single one had any traditional financing or any useful financial history to qualify for a lease.  Cash?  Absolutely no problem in setting aside a year's rent in cash as a deposit plus paid out all improvements in cash prior to opening the doors.  I was amazed every time a non-american speaking tenant that new to the country that could drop $350-$400K to open the doors and instantly have a staff of 25-30 people when the doors opened.  Fun fact, the had no need for employee parking either, lol.  To anyone outside of the restaurant, these people didn't even exist.

the agencies are doing this HOW?

the post I responded to specifically pointed to Boston Top 10 bust.

Im guessing by this post you're firmly in the "communism evil, murica great " camp?  

The entire thing is visa/immigration fraud even if we take everything you say at face value. Their visa doesn't allow them to work in the country, nor does it allow them to engage in illegal sex work. When the girls enter the country, they're lying to immigration officials about their purpose for visiting. The K-orgs are hiring people without a valid visa (to do illegal sex work). It also seems like some of them stay a bit longer than 90 days.  
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You are correct. Any brothel, agency or independent provider is likely breaking the law. Reviewers are breaking the law as well. You should probably exercise caution around anyone involved in this business, either provider or client. I think I've been pretty consistent making that point. That being said, the K-orgs seem to be larger and more sophisticated. Some of these organizations operate in multiple locations across state borders. Obviously they recruit talent overseas as well. They're much larger and potentially more dangerous than a single provider or even a small brothel.

I used to be like you and thought orgs had way more enforcers and powerful people behind them.

why would they need legal paperwork, like a valid visa?
Lying to immigration officials, hard to believe that.
I mean it seems like no one hardly even bothers going to immigration, just MO, so no need to lie!

your opinion, or do you have proof against any Korg?
If so, why not put it out to finally prove that Korgs are involved in HT!
And also help save these poor trafficked slaves.
I know I would help someone getting fucked over if I saw it and could help!

Kgirls are never "smuggled across the border."  South Korea is part of the Visa Waiver program and it's citizens to not need a Visa, nor do they need to be smuggled to come to the US.  They simply present their passport on arrival and are allowed to stay for up to 6 months every two years.  They will usually only stay 90 days at a time if they came to work at an agency so that they can come again for 90 days the next year.  There is no fraud coming here.  However, some do overstay their time limit and are here illegally once the six months has expired.  They are required to leave and wait two years before they come back.  Agencies are not involved in these decisions.  It's strictly up to the girl whether to overstay.  

The visa waiver program allows someone to stay for up to 90 days per visit for tourist and business purposes. It does not specifically limit the number of visits per year so not sure where you're getting the 6 months in a two-year period. CBP will monitor the data and if they think someone is trying to take advantage of the situation and stay in the USA without proper visas they can bar reentry and require the person get a visa for any future stays.

Well the "visa on arrival" type thing that is the core of the visa waiver program specifically states "tourism or business purposes" so your claim about not being able to come here from commercial reasons is not correct. It's true they could not be hired by some business but that is not what they are doing. The agency is not employing them.

"Kgirls are never "smuggled across the border." "

I talked to a booker and found I had confusing the VSP with a B-2 tourist Visa, which has the six-month limit if a girl wants more than 90 days.  I stand corrected on that point. The information on all of this was given to me by a booker 15 years ago, so not surprised I mixed it up a little.   I post from memory, I rarely look things up unless I'm challenged, a quirk of mine, I guess.    I am 100% correct on the big picture.  I've known several girls who would come and go over the years under each of these programs, Visa Waiver, and B-2 Tourist Visa.  You will see it in the review history gaps of many Kgirls.  

the US and North Korea do not share a border, so your comment has no relevance to Smoke's post, but thank you anyway for your failed attempt to add something of value to the conversation.  It shows you are trying.  

The last time I checked the posts, they did not specify US border.  

And which of the agencies might be involved in that NK smuggling? Most of the stories I've heard of is the North Korean is specifically trying to escape, often on their own as trust is low and I'm sure many fear to share such plans with anyone outside their immediate family -- and even then that might not hold.

Agencies here might recruit girls from SK who are already "freed" from the prison as you put it. Often times girls have no control of whether or not they will be turned down by customs or immigration. Sometimes a "coming soon" girl will be turned away and they will take the ad down.

escape to China, then go South, and enter South Korea as refugees.  Once they have a SK passport, they can travel on the Visa Waiver program.  While they are waiting, they become Salon girls and get the experience they need to make it as a Kgirl in the US.   A few that were beautiful have married Japanese businessmen and moved to Japan, where they can also travel to the US under the VWP.  

When a girls leaves NK,I'm pretty sure she's a plain Jane with potential. When she lands in SK, I'm pretty sure she get a cosmetic make over, tits, eyes, nose lips and maybe ass just to start.  
But my question is, who covers the cost? Is she leaving SK with 10K or?? And if its a second party who "helps", how long does she have to hustle to pay the debt?
When she comes here, is she debt free or??
Kinda wondered when she get the "Pink Slip"

They will work in the salon scene for 3-8 years between the time they land in SK and leave to work in the US.   During that time, they make enough to afford any plastic surgery they might need to enhance their beauty.  With that said, I can tell you from dating several on the outside that they are masters with makeup.  You can pass a girl with no makeup on the street in Ktown in the morning that's a plain Jane and not recognize her from the session you had with her in full makeup a few days earlier where she was DDG.  It's all in the makeup.