I’m pretty sure everyone knows what edging is. If not. Just look up “edging sexual practice”.  
Years ago I knew a kgirl who was an absolute master at this. She would give an absolutely incredible BBBJ and just as you were getting close to blowing she’d back off. Sometimes she’d tell you what she was doing “I’m not done yet. Don’t come.”  She’d lick your balls or that sensitive spot just below them.  
Once you were just getting used to that she’d slide her tongue up to the tip of your cock and then into her mouth until you felt your cock pop down into her throat.
The variations were not endless. But there were more than a few. I think she knew every blowjob trick in the book. Sometimes she’d take you over the edge and suck you dry. Sometimes she’d put on the cover and say “Now, give it to me.” And then she’d ride you till you were almost there again and she’d switch it up until that moment came when there was no stopping it.
She would always ask me at the beginning of the session (we always did 90 to 120 minute sessions) how many times I wanted to come. Though I always started by getting her to come first so I could fit in without her needing extra lube.
I loved entering her while she was still orgasming and bucking. I’d match her rhythm and prolong her O as long as I could. When I got this right things got wonderfully intense.
Now, here’s my question:
Are there any kgirls out there who even approach that level of attitude and skill?
I doubt it. But I was just thinking about her and it made me wonder.

I would love to see a girl who can edge me. I would treasure her dearly. To edge properly the girl has to know all your buttons, which isn't easy.  

I take forever to cum most of the time, so most girls are just happy they made me cum lol. Those who can get me off fast are special.  

I won't ever forget how it took Angela, an undeniable legend, 40 minutes of nonstop sucking and fucking  and then a hand for another 10 minutes to get me off. She accused me of being drunk, and I definitely wasn't. We made up after the session when she realized I was telling the truth  (and, I mean we were already dfking so she could smell my breath had no ethanol).  
And that was on the day I saw her first out of my usual three girl lineup.

 
So yeah, I'm jealous. Haha. A girl who can edge you properly is like a girl who can time her cumming (not fake cumming) with your cumming. Extremely hard to find.

She was a keeper. Sadly, she’s retired now.

She could fake cumming pretty well. Though, when she realized I saw through the act we had a good laugh and she cut it out.  

Because she knew I preferred her natural lube to the stuff on her nightstand, very early on in our relationship she said to me “I teach you to make me cum.” Unlike her faking, her real Os happened when she went almost completely still and very quiet with her head turned to the side. Once I learned what she liked I started edging her, too. I figured that a girl as good at edging as she was would either love or hate being edged herself. Turned out she loved it, fortunately.  

As I mentioned above, when I inserted and matched her spasms while she was still coming down from her O, she would go absolutely wild and start yelling “I cumming! I cumming!” Alternating with hitting the bed and the walls along with grunts and gasps when my mushroom head made her g-spot snap back and forth as I went in and out. It was a very tight fit. But we made it work.  

So, you can probably tell, this girl really was my ATF. Haven’t met her equal before or since.

Great topic bro!

Edging bbbjtcimws is FUCKING AWESOME!

My monger Mentor said every kgirl has a different bbbj style and enjoy!  Tru dat!

Got my first edging bbbjtcim from RB Sonya back in 2016.  Loved it!  Sessioned with RB Sonya three times over the 2016 - 2017 period.  Her service was EPIC the first time then she got lazy and lazier on me...last time I saw her, she said to me 'when you are sad, cum see me! I make you happy!' I replied 'I'm a happy monger.  Can I cum see you anyway??!!'. She shrugged her shoulders, smiled and kiss goodbye.  

I've mentioned I have a vampire kgirl I session with OTC.  Two or three hours is $250 or overnight for $600 is MY negotiated rate at her place.  Anyway, we met under conditions that she's a working girl and I'm a long time monger.  I shared with her that I had a session with a new kgirl and was the recipient of an edging bbbjtcim and home girl can improve her game.  She laughed at me then opened herself up to learn the new technique.  We watched a few edging bbbjtcim videos on RedTube and then she practiced on me.  Practice = improvement.  Ha ha

It was a mutually beneficial sexperience.  She only sees regulars now and I'm either # 8 or # 18.  Ha ha

What's my point?  If you have an ATF that you're a regular with and she doesn't give you an edging bbbjtcim or edging bbbjtcimws, teach her a new trick.  You can either watch Redtube videos with her or give her a homework assignment.  

Sharing is caring and can be mutually beneficial.  We all can learn new tricks if we open ourselves up.

YMMV

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ATF retiring gotta be tough.

Have you tried approaching other mutli-session girls the same way as with her ? I mean, edging-wise ?

Also, I'm just wondering - how exactly does the girl get the cues from you about when you are close to PoNR but not quite ? Is it some physiological cue or is it a verbal cue from you ? If it's the latter, it's understandable. If it's the former - it takes some serious skill I'd think. Open question to you and twoon, since seems you guys have a good amount of experience there

Honestly, I could feel this girl figuring out my cues in our first appointment. Not going to say she never missed. But it was rare.

The thing that set her apart in my mind, other than those world class oral skills, was her focus. You knew she was right there with you trying to follow your lead as soon as she saw you till the moment you left.

So, really, that’s what I think is so hard to find.

On the other hand, I’m pretty sure I’m not too hard to read either. I’m a terrible poker player.  

Training Complete

At first, I'd vocalize how close I am and she'd get me harder and harder and then back off.  We talk DIRTY to each other; I enjoy.  Nothing rude.  Rinse and repeat until I say READY!  Whoo hoo!!!  Fireworks ain't got nothin' on an edging bbbjtcimws.

Whoo hoo!!!!

YMMV

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Hmm, I guess my question is how does she know when to back off? You just tell her?

Occasionally I would tell her to back off. But mostly she just knew.  
Like I said, though, poker faced I am not. All of the women with whom I have been intimate, amateur or pro, have told me that I am a very responsive lover. I have no good idea what that means other than I’m pretty easy to read.
It must be a relatively good thing, though. Because every woman I’ve ever broken up with still expresses the desire to have sex with me afterwards. I will admit to finding that a bit creepy. But there it is.

Yeah I agree. That's the thing - I hardly think you were the only one who go that treatment from her (it's more likely at least), so the girl has to be focused and knowing your tendencies very well. Not just going through motions and waiting for your nut passively. And you returning the favor helps, of course Girls do like the shroom dick most of the time.  

 
I guess, I'm just projecting it on myself, and I don't think any of my atfs can pick up on when I'm closer to busting or further from busting, let alone random girls. Hell, sometimes I can't tell myself and have false alarms. I also don't do the sounds most men make when I'm busting, I remember one girl got scared of it and said "next pop say ughhhh when you bust, most customers say it". I was like, like Master P? She said, who the hell is Master P? I was like never mind, not my style to grunt but I'll make sure to let you know more explicitly. Lol.

Most of them would prefer you come quickly, irrespective of whether you are the first or eighth customer of the day.  In my own experience, girl like this easily attracts a lot of regulars.  I have only gotten variations of edging from girls I have been seeing for a VERY long time, or else on the outside, where there is no clock.  This type of activity is hard to prolong at an incall when the end of the session is always on the horizon.  its so much better if you can do it with no clock worries. The girls are so much more into it when they don't have to worry about bleeding over into their short break time before the next customer.  If you find a girl who does this, being the last of the day can make it a little better IF she is not too tired from that day's schedule.  A 2-hour session is the best if you want to be teased until your balls nearly explode.

Most kgirls would prefer even more for you to come in, leave the donation, and then turn around and leave.... but we can't quite all have what we want, can we?  

Yes cdl, most girls like this have a very loyal following. A girl who is into teasing you like this is hard to find, pretty much has to be into sex, and is a gem most of us would cherish.  

 
Hence why service >>>>>>>> looks for many of us. This is why these are the type of girls who typically get the highest grades in my book. The girls who will willingly fuck us for 50 minutes straight and not get mad about us not busting. Not those who do the bare minimum to get by a session. They fully earn their grades.

OK, got it. It's a mix of verbal and physical communication it seems.

I believe I stated that I also think it is unusual behavior for a kgirl in my original post. My apologies if I didn’t make that sufficiently clear.

And, yes, the girl almost has to genuinely like sex. Note that the kgirl I was describing took about 6 months off with a guy who wanted her to go exclusive with him. It was probably more than a bit of posturing on her part when she said to me “The problem with having a boyfriend is that there isn’t enough sex.” At the same time, there was a ring of truth in her statement.

She was also very proud of her blowjob skills. I know from experience that she would happily blow me for 2 hours straight if that’s what I wanted.  

On days that she was particularly horny I sometimes got tired before our 2 hours was up (back then it was very rare for just one girl to wear me out). I think it was on about 3 different occasions where she noticed I was getting tired. She held my face in her hands and said “Go home. Get some sleep. Drink lots of water. Take maca powder. And bring that big dick back to me tomorrow.” She really seemed to only be happy if I was actively with her and focused (as she always was with me) the entire session or longer if she didn’t have another appointment afterward.

BTW, she was the one who got me started taking maca powder. I was impressed with how well it works and still take it for the boost in recovery time and semen production.  

Don’t get me wrong. We had a couple of real fights, too. One time she let loose and was hitting me pretty hard over  something she thought I had done (which I hadn’t). But the make up sex was off the charts.

Anyway, I get that it is entirely possible I am looking for a unicorn. On the other hand, it’s also possible that there is one out there. No way of knowing without looking.

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Is it based on anything other than speculation and your way of thinking?

I have to ask because I have actually been in that type of situation. I won't go into all the details but the initial scheduling was off and once at the appointment I was getting kind of weird vibes. Mostly waiting for her to start something. She was kind of doing the same. After about 5 minutes she told me I could go if I wanted to. I left the donation on the table for her -- it was not that I was being told to leave and so had to leave. I was leaving because something just seems wrong with everything. Still, I made the appointment and if I was bailing on it figure I owe the door charge.

Her response was to tell me that was not necessary.

So here we have a situations what basically I walk in, put the money down and am heading out the door but the girl insists on giving it back.

It was more of a joke, lol. I did not mean it seriously. Every joke has some degree of truth in it, sure.  

 
With your situation - it could be anything. Some girls truly love sex (those girls are the best). Most girls understand that people who just leave donation and bounce, aren't likely to leave a good review, for example, or they are more likely to complain to the PO. If she gives the donation back, you're even, so to speak, so all that was lost was time.  

 
I think many girls, if told it would be consequence-free, would take this offer, especially if it's not a regular that they're seeing. Just like many mongers would walk rather than stay if they someone unacceptable by their standards...if they were guaranteed no consequences. But it's another question altogether, guarantee people no consequences... and in many instances they will become animals.

So to sum it up, it was not a shot at girls by any means, if you took it that way. It's kind of a joke along the lines of the best customers being the ones who cum fast. Girls who are dedicated and fully devoted to customers are not easy to find imo, and they are cherished.

TL;DR:it's a joke,not a shot at girls.

Try out some girls who really love sex. See Claire 10+ times. She's my atf. Communication can be difficult, but she's game for a lot of things and she can blow me for ages. Her and Yuffie. I'm repeating the same girls, I know, but it's tough to find girls who are nymphos, into sex and are also open to your own scripts. I think in your case communication is key too, unfortunately neither of these gals has great English. They're also both on submissive side too, so you'll run the show,this may or may not fit you

Back when I used to try out new girls I had an experience where I walked in, saw the girl and started backing away when she got close because she was just too far from my type (older, not pretty at all and smelling like an ashtray). She handed me my  money back before I got out the door.  
Only non-kgirls have ever expected to keep the donation when this happens in my experience. This is one of the reasons I’ve largely stopped seeing anyone but kgirls.

Many mongers are scared to pull the trigger and leave in this situation, because of wrath of PO.

Personally I have never left, mostly because Im interested in service and in service land judging book by their cover is a nono. With that said, there were times when I was clearly bothered by what I saw. Some of the worse looking girls also try to make up their looks by delivering better service.  

 
Believe it or not, I thought about situations where the monger walks from a providers perspective. Some have walked on my atfs before. I really think it sucks for providers self esteem, way moreso than any review ever would. And we wouldn't have that issue if the pics were more truthful. Say what you want about those Chinese gilf spots, but there you see closer to reality pics. With kgirls, jeez. Saw on another board say kimchi kitty has two rolls of fat on her stomach and is 20+ pounds over her listed weight. But great service. So Im putting her on my tdl (who knows when that list is started because covid) , but some poor sap will walk on her after seeing her much chubbier than in her pics. Helps no one.

I will and have put up with significant differences from expected appearance. But add a complete lack of concern on the part of the provider for her body odor (in this case smoke) and I will walk and have done so. If the provider cares that little about the customer’s experience then she should expect a significant percentage of walk-aways, in my opinion.
I’m a customer who sees girls for two hour sessions with significant frequency. POs do not give me a hard time on those very rare occasions when they know they should have done a much better job of setting my expectations. They apologize and do a better job next time for me.
Note that when I walk I do it as kindly as possible towards the provider and when I talk to the PO I will be as considerate and kind as possible as well.

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I love being edged. Try kissapril.com when she returns to touring. Besides being a stunning blonde with huge tits, she is a total pleaser. 2 hours of HJ, BJ, tittyfucking, rimming and prostate massage has me in heaven. No CIM, but her kegel muscles are fantastic.  

Simply the best edging of my life.

Nothing is more of a turn off than a stale ashtray mouth and hair.

I am really surprised by how many of them can manage their smoking while keeping the condo and themselves so fresh. I know a couple I would have sworn were non-smokers but after seeing them a few times learned they did in fact smoke.

Unfortunately it is a quick way to age one's face.

We got it good bros!!!!!  Thanks TER!!!!!

RB Sonya's specialty is edging bbbjtcim with partial swallow and spit.  That was her script.  She found a way to get me two times each session real easy but she wasn't really interested to have me as her regular.

Another kgirl specialist goes by the stage name of Hana.  Her sessions were so AWESOME that she is nicknamed 'The Hurricane'.  Her bbbjtcim with partial swallow and spit was EPIC!  She got me two times every time.  Cool thing about Hana is she'd break out her iPad and blow me to Usher's 'YEAH'.  I highly recommend!!!  She wasn't really excited to have me as her regular too.

Yet another kgirl specialist goes by the stage name of Tiana.  She is perhaps the sexiest kgirl in Wonderland.  

When I first sessioned with Tiana, I did a 9 pm appointment and she greeted me with 'I'm tired'.  That's not real enthusiastic.  To the bedroom and I attend to my formalities.  She warms up.  We took a co-ed shower with P2P.  No kissing.  To the bedroom and she gave me one of the best bbbjtcim with partial swallow and spit!  Fuck yeah!!!! Then she says she tired again and just wants to cuddle.  At the half hour mark, I ask her if I can go two times please?  She gave me a nasty look and said I'm tired.  I said you need to get my cock hard again!  She took it as some kinda Korean Fighting Challenge and sucked me off like her life depended on it.  FUCK YEAH!  She another who wasn't really interested to have me as her regular.

It's all part of my hero's journey.

YMMV

No CIM?!  How much is her hourly rate?  These kgirls are for us between $220 and $250 / hr donation with CIM with partial swallow and spit or edging bbbjtcimws.

What's her TER ID #?

YMMV

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Sonya's TER ID # 316422

Couldn't find Hana's

Tiana TER ID # 320111

It's probably just me, but I've never had issues with smoke breath. I guess it might depend on whether you're a smoker etc. I can't remember when I last smoked a cig (college maybe?) but I will occasionally smoke cigars and while vape is seemingly way to go with 420,Ill still occasionally light up a pipe or whatnot. As long as it's not overwhelming like they've just smoked 5 cigs, I'm fine with it. It's also ingrained a lot in Asian culture, so I'd imagine if you date/fuck many Asian girls it's a common theme.  

 
For bay area peeps, the only girl I remember who'd have a distinguishable smokers breath is Yoko, and she's definitely someone I recommend, her service is great . When I was her last appointment, she lit up right in front of me after the session, asking for permission first. Right in the bedroom.

Go to youporn and search; Riley Reid Edging! Watch that for 10 minutes with one of your regulars, and tell her to do it just like that! I have done it a few times, works wonders!