So, in the day and age of corona, are we re-flecting on health issues? Are any hobbyists re-thinking the health consequences of BBBJs, or BBFS, the former of which is offered by every KGIRL I have ever seen (and I have seen quite a few; not in Coeur's atmospheric levels, but a lot -- my reviews reflect about 1/10th or less of my activities over the decades), the latter of which is often available?
Are we wondering about the intelligence of DFK with a stranger, pre- or post-corona....? What are the concerns, thoughts, logic, irrational wishes and hopes, of the hobby community...? Captain Rsince you still get COVIN-19 just being in the same room but I would run, not walk, out of the room if you hear her coughing, high fever or having trouble breathing.
It seems that my continuing to see Kgirls during this crisis puts me in the minority among mongers. Even though I'm still hobbying, I have to admit that the last two weeks I have been concentrating on repeats only, eschewing the opportunity to see new girls for now. My thought on this is that customers that may be infected are less likely to visit their regulars if they have corona symptoms than they would be to visit a new girl they have no history with yet. I think its human nature for most decent men to not want to endanger people they have a close relationship with, even if that "relationship" is just as a long-term customer.
Everyone already knows my position on BBFS. For many years now, I only do it with someone I'm dating on the outside. As far as BBBJ goes, I have seen no reports that the virus can enter your body through your dick, so I would continue to do that, and the same for DATY. DFK is the toughie. The thing that attracts me to Kgirls the most is the wonderful GFE feel they give us, and I have always said, a great GFE always starts with good DFK. Accordingly, I would be more inclined to stop completely than I would to see a Kgirl WITHOUT engaging in DFK. In my book, if our tongues don't touch, its not a GFE. If its not a GFE, why am I there?
TBH, I've seen kgirls more frequently than I have prior to the lockdown. When you consider that there's a much high probablity of catching it in the grocery store, seeing a kgirl (or any provider for that matter) doesn't really seem like big deal. Sure, there is that possibility that one of her other customers might have it, but there are much stronger possibilities out there than in the bedroom.
Saw one of my regulars this week after a 4 weeks hiatus. I figured the worst of the epidemic has past even through the MW area is part of the epicenter of COVID-19. I did a little research and found that the average incubation period is about 5 days after being exposed and the person starts to shed the virus about 2 days before symptoms appear. So if the person doesn't have any symptoms when I show up, then I got a pretty good chance that she is safe. I just hope the person is not asymtomatic which ruin my theory.
I can understand and appreciate your post, as I have taken the opportunity to spend time with the providers recently. However, we are kidding ourselves to think meeting Kgirls has a lower risk.....
Ignorance is bliss....
Everyone is talking about Covid 19 and fucking and sucking. What about having your face right next to your K-girl of the day and inhaling whatever she is exhaling as her tongue is in your mouth and her hands are all over your body and face. If you're willing to be in the same room and in the same bed then BBBJ and BBFS are the least of your worries.
BBFS is dangerous and I think more people practice that but are not willing to admit it on this board. BBFS is like going into dark side and once you go there, it is hard to have covered session. Have I done it? Sure.
However, I am very picky on who I do it with. I have no problem on paying the full fee and walking out if I don't like the girl to maintain my relationship with the booker. I saw one girl from October to December 12 times and our sessions were BBFS after the 2nd meeting and she was the only girl that I saw during those two months. There have been few girls like that in my book that are long gone but Latte/Loren from Santa Monica was one of my all-time favorites because of her K Girl muscle and also Lita from West LA. I definitely don't insist on BBFS, I don't pursue it or see only BBFS providers but if it happens organically, I am all over it. However, I am noticing that more K Girls are going that way these days and I think that HIV and AIDS is becoming less feared (hey HIV does not have 24 hours coverage like COVID) and when HIV came about in late 80 or early 90, it changed the sexual relationship of that generation and as a human, we tend to forget things like from 15-25 years ago. I will not do ANAL with anyone WITHOUT COVER and that is NO EXCEPTION. I had an offer from Japanese girl to fuck her in ASS BARE, but I covered the junior before entering her back door. I have only done anal without cover with my three Vietnamese girl friends in college.
DFK-I actually don't like kissing, so I avoid that as much as I can unless if I like the girl.
BBBJ-Interestingly, I don't mind the BBBJ or if it is CBJ.
The best way to describe the risk is with all those practices, you may get unlucky and get HIV with BBFS. And with BBBJ or DFK while the chances of HIV are very rare, the chances of Herpes and UTI is much higher.
So essentially every unsafe form of sex has its consequences and everyone tolerance for risk is different but none of those three above are highly contagious like the FRICKIN COVID-19.
COVID-19 is ONE RISK THAT I WILL NOT TAKE.
I have put a link below to a post by Lester on the GD board which shows the odds of dying from various causes. Right now, the current odds that you will randomly die of Covid-19 are about 10,000 to 1. The odds that you will even catch it are 440 to 1. Using Lester's chart, it means you have a higher chance of randomly dying in a car accident than you do CATCHING coronavirus, and you have a higher chance of randomly dying in an airplane crash than you have DYING from coronavirus.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not giving up driving or flying because its "too dangerous", so why should I give up Kgirls, which appear to be safer according to the odds?
That table is meaningless as it's a lot of apple-orange comparisons. Second, even the use of the covid-19 mortality rate of the moment doesn't apply as so many in the base (USA population) are highly isolating themselves so behaviors are not the same -- the average doesn't really apply.
I think his numbers are completely wrong for all on this board with regard to flying. If you fly a USA carriers the odds are more like 1 in 200,000 fatalities.
Using lesters numbers one would conclude that while the risk of death from infection when seeing a provider is small just getting to the appointment is up to 100 times as risky (Motor vehicle accident odds are shown as 1 in 88. Seems wrong but...) or that you are safer riding on a motor cycle than in a car.
I'm not saying any should change their decisions. It's a choice. Personally I don't think the decisions/discussion should be so death focused. Even though this particular group (mongers) is clearly more at risk that the average person in the USA due to ages most of us know what our health profile is. That is much more relevant than these averages.
Using these numbers is worse than hooker math. I don't know if its just because some feel they have to justify things to themselves, to others or simply only know how to think/express these things as odds because they spend a lot of times betting. The problem is the odds you get at the track actually make sense (based on factors that actually influence the expected outcome) and some how think the numbers offered in the table do as well. Maybe it is just because some are just using their little heads to make the logical analysis.
.......Using these numbers is worse than hooker math. I don't know if its just because some feel they have to justify things to themselves, to others or simply only know how to think/express these things as odds because they spend a lot of times betting. The problem is the odds you get at the track actually make sense (based on factors that actually influence the expected outcome) and some how think the numbers offered in the table do as well. Maybe it is just because some are just using their little heads to make the logical analysis.
I simply cut and pasted the stats, I didn't independently compile them. I did notice after that they list motor vehicle accidents and car crashes separately???
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Anyhow as far as activities, these numbers only would be applicable if you engaged in them. So why would car accidents seem riskier than motorcycle accidents? If these numbers are deaths per total population, then the answer is that far fewer ride motorcycles than ride in cars. So it does make it harder to estimate your personal risk from this table.
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But the idea was generally show relative risks. I think it does that. The risk is low.
I agree that the risks are low for some and, perhaps more importantly, where they are higher the person has a good sense that they are more at risk (and care that they are).
However, I think the numbers are not directly comparable and, well I cannot say hate to say it be cause I will now for the second time, as bad as the hooker math on rate schedules so many here bitch about 
I think we have better arguments for why each of us face a given risk profile and so can be a better decision on what to do. I think that would serve the community here better for both mongers and providers. I suspect there are some that are abstaining because they listen to all the "you're gonna die" rhetoric but really are not at nearly that level of risk. And then we have some that are taking the 1 in 10,000 as valid for them personally and really should not be.
My guess is that more or erring on the side of caution so the level of income to the providers is lower than the real risk level merits. BUT, that is a guess right now and I am not suggesting anyone change what they are doing based on what I might say. I'm just suggesting everyone start thinking about this using some different lenses.
And I will concede that making the appointment IS more risky in terms of catching corona than the risk of dying from it. Lets face it, nobody here is in their 80's or 90's, so the risk of death is even lower in specific age groups.
I will also grant you that the FUTURE is what we don't know yet. While these odds may not change much in the course of a year for the causes of death that have been around for 100 years, one year from now, the odds of dying from corona might be much worse than they are now. The stats keep changing, and the sample size in the US is too small relative to the whole population until we get through an entire "flu" season.
Location also has a lot to do with it, as the odds of death if you live in NY is about 1000 to 1, but in California, its 33,000 to one. If I was a New Yorker, I would probably not be continuing to see Kgirls.
The other important statistic that we may never know, is how many people have caught corona from seeing a sex worker. This would probably be the most important info to making a FULLY informed decision, but its doubtful this info will ever be available to us.
In the interests of full disclosure, I had 26 sessions during February and March. I got tested on April 6th, and was found to be negative. That's 26 different pussies I got to enjoy and there were no negative consequences. I'm convinced from talking to our Kgirls that they are being very careful, and even though business is slow, some have shared that they refused to let guys in that seemed to have symptoms that COULD be corona. I will test again at the end of April.
Interest of full disclosure my ass. You just like to brag and puff up your chest
Okay, not really the bad news first, just the obnoxious response to one statement
On the serious side, looking at NYC and Los Angeles is really night and day. I wonder just how much we do understand about the transmission and what factors really influence there. But that is probably pure speculation base on an assumption that LA is a much more "open" city than NYC. NYC grows taller while LA spreads out. But, as I said before, when thinking about covid risks probably better to use the real estate "location, location, location" approach over the area and wider averages.
You're right about the infection rate from providers but we do have data on same house infections. One thing that might be relevant to this is that typically the first person in the household tends to have a milder case than those coming down with it later. I think the general thought is that exposure "out side" tends to be less concentrated and a shorter duration of exposure. Within the household the exposure is both higher "doses" and over a longer period of time being exposed.
The implication here seems to be that while your chances of getting infected are closer to the same as anywhere else -- the other person has to be sick -- it might be that your level of sickness is increased. Perhaps getting infected while shopping for bread would have resulted in a mild to asymptomatic case but now it's mild to medium case.
I think it also safe to think that the girls are being very careful (I know one I've talked with were very concern due to the reported case of the 17 year old Korean kid dying in LA -- supposedly because he could not get medical treatment -- and they don't have a medical plan. However, I also think it is the case that if a provider you see is contagious then you are much more likely to become infected than while shopping for that bread.
Possible of good news for everyone here is the possibility of home testing. Suspect many have already heard of it. Unfortunately if needs to be mailed back and the has a 48 turn around. I have seen some company trying to get approval for another test kit that will provide results without sending to a lab -- I think it takes about an hour, or a bit less, to provide the results. That would probably really open up the market for this world.
I have put a link below to a post by Lester on the GD board which shows the odds of dying from various causes. Right now, the current odds that you will randomly die of Covid-19 are about 10,000 to 1. The odds that you will even catch it are 440 to 1. Using Lester's chart, it means you have a higher chance of randomly dying in a car accident than you do CATCHING coronavirus, and you have a higher chance of randomly dying in an airplane crash than you have DYING from coronavirus.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not giving up driving or flying because its "too dangerous", so why should I give up Kgirls, which appear to be safer according to the odds?
Endemic (from Greek ἐν en "in, within" and δῆμος demos "people") in a population when that infection is constantly maintained at a baseline level in a geographic area without external inputs. For example, chickenpox is endemic (steady state) in the UK, but malaria is not. Every year, there are a few cases of malaria reported in the UK, but these do not lead to sustained transmission in the population due to the lack of a suitable vector (mosquitoes of the genus Anopheles).
So, you can't compare COVID-19 Pandemic to unfortunate life events such as getting cancer, car accidents, or house fire.
For example:
A) You won't develop a bad heart if you are sitting next to a patient that has cardiovascular disease,
B) You won't get into accident if you are a careful driver if there is an accident in FWY (e.g: You can steer out of the lane, hit the brake or do some other emergency maneuvering),
C) You won't get cancer if you are sitting next to cancer patients,
D) You can have sex with HIV positive person and still not contact AIDS,
E) You can go to sky diving shows on annual basis and you may see a have a tragedy of 1 or 2 parachute not opening in span of 20 years and a person dies but you don't see the failure of one parachute cascade to other jumpers’ parachutes.
The tragedies like Ebola and COVID-19 are called pandemic for a reason because they can spread like wildfire and their pathogenic nature.
And DO as YOU PLEASE!!! You seem to like to ignore facts presented to you when you don’t like the conclusion of all the facts and common sense when those facts are against your liking.
World is a CROWDED PLACE ANYWAY...
USA motorvehicle deaths yearly about 35,000....covid 19 deaths in two months over 40,000...covid 19 is becoming the biggest killer in the USA.......if you are lucky enough to survive you can have life long heart, kidney, lung and neurological
conditions........yes, I know the only thing guaranteed in this life that everyone you love will die...but do you really want to be that guy that does that to a friend or family member....if covid 19 is a joke the, the punchline is death
Death is not the only conclusion to getting infected with the virus.
Some will not not have any serious consequences, others will. Exactly what the risks are just now are a bit hard to assess "on average" because we simply don't have that strong of an understanding of the disease and what it does to the human body (remember the whole we don't have enough ventilators bit? Well, not many are starting to say ventilators are actually the wrong treatment and will kill those with covid-19.)
I think the strongest point made here is that none of us really know what risk our own behaviors will impose on others. But that seems to be something people often ignore, distracted driving, drunk driving, stupid campers who start forest fires....
I ALMOST started was when I told a woman once that if she didn't want to take the time to shave her bush off for me, I would be happy to burn it off for in in less than 10 seconds. She laughed, then shaved. Lol
Aren't you confusing the bush with the forest here?
on how long it is. (Lol) In parts of the world, the term "bush" is synonymous with forest.
Car accident deaths are year after year after year. Most of us are in cars from the days after we are born until the day we are wheeled to the undertaker. Let's say the average lifespan is 75. If the car accident death rate is constant (for simple calculation) that means during our lifetime 2.6 million people will have died of car accidents. How many waves of covid until herd immunity? I dunno.
USA motorvehicle deaths yearly about 35,000....covid 19 deaths in two months over 40,000...covid 19 is becoming the biggest killer in the USA.......if you are lucky enough to survive you can have life long heart, kidney, lung and neurological
conditions........yes, I know the only thing guaranteed in this life that everyone you love will die...but do you really want to be that guy that does that to a friend or family member....if covid 19 is a joke the, the punchline is death
Roughly 4 MILLION people a year die in this country, at 40,000 COVID has a LONG ways to go before becoming the biggest killer in the country.
I live by myself, I interact with very few people in any given day and there has only been one death due to COVID within an hours drive from me, and that person was from NY, he caught it there, came to Texas and died here, everyone he came in contact with is in isolation for the next couple of weeks.
Sorry, if you ChickenLittles want to lock yourselves in your basement until your government gives you the all clear, be my guest, but I am no more worried about dying from Corona than I am interested in drinking the Mexican piss water of the same name, and I am not about to be "sheltered shamed" by people who actually have a higher risk profile than I do.
I live by myself, I interact with very few people in any given day and there has only been one death due to COVID within an hours drive from me, and that person was from NY, he caught it there, came to Texas and died here, everyone he came in contact with is in isolation for the next couple of weeks.
Sorry, if you ChickenLittles want to lock yourselves in your basement until your government gives you the all clear, be my guest, but I am no more worried about dying from Corona than I am interested in drinking the Mexican piss water of the same name, and I am not about to be "sheltered shamed" by people who actually have a higher risk profile than I do.
your example that Covid-19 is transferred by butt-sex with a man, then I feel even MORE safe than before. Lol
your example that Covid-19 is transferred by butt-sex with a man, then I feel even MORE safe than before. Lol
Would a Kgirl be touched if I told her that?
I am a Chicken Little and I think I may die from this. Excessive worry wasn't fun for me so I updated my will and decided que sera, sera.
Seeing a Kgirl has become a habit of mine so I haven't stopped. I am the type who would come if a Kgirl misses me or a booker wants me to come. I also come when nobody asks.
One good thing about the Safer At Home order was that I have fewer excuses to go out. At one point I was also worried I may become a super spreader. I always assume I will get the virus from a Kgirl and infect other Kgirls and gentlemen. I monitor myself and do what I can to protect other people.
as well as the emotional intelligence to have empathy for those we don't personally know.
shows alot more residents in LA County have the antibodies that it dropped the mortality rate from 4.5% to around 1-2%.
According to CDC....in the month of march coronavirus deaths on a daily basis were the 2nd or 3rd leading cause of death in the United States,......in April on peak days Corona virus will be the leading cause of death in the United States....these statistics include cancer and heart disease.
an airplane crash was the leading cause of death on a certain day. How about a volcano being the leading cause of death on a particular day, or an earthquake? I agree with you that corona will probably be the leading cause of death on SELECTED days. So what? Other days, it will be something else. Do we panic on those days, too?
Just like the frozen yogurt shop has the flavor of the day and perfume shops a sent of the day. In a pandemic we clearly need a panic of the day. But can we get the admins to take on posting the panic of the day theme?
Maybe we should also have a provider of the day? Get together with a few hobby bro's and pick a girl, all go see her, and make her day. Actually, I'm trying, but after four days in a row over the weekend, I need a break. I'm already booked for today, but I'm taking tomorrow and Thursday off, then three girls over Friday - Sunday. I'm doing my bit for our Kgirls and trying to help their businesses (well, there IS something in it for me, too. its not just altruism. Lol) as much as I can. I'm hoping in another week or so, more Kgirl fans will come off the bench and start playing again. Our girls need it. Rent is due for most in 10 days.
That sounds like it might be a better plan than what a lot have been saying -- lot less trouble than setting up accounts or trying to figure out how to send money anonymously.
Probably easier to setup some type of health verification with some of their regulars rather than just opt out. But then some may well have real concerns about others who are much more at risk so that won't work. Most of the K-girls you see are not worried about taking something home to mom and dad or a favorite uncle.
Keep you work going and double the tip for good measure.
Some body told me they actually like it because it cleans out the population such as older folks and obesity people. A world with no old and fat people isn’t that great?
With unprecedented Safer-At-Home order in the US, this statistic is greatly magnified.
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More people staying home means deaths by auto accidents significantly dropped. Not to mention various causes of deaths outside the home.
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There have been few to non-existent visits to ER for non-COVID-19 related cases. ER staffs were even worried people are not seeking or delaying treatment despite having possible heart attacks or other conditions.
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89% of people dying have underlying medical conditions. If someone dies of a heart attack and has COVID-19, is the cause of death counted as heart attack or COVID-19 or both?
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80% have mild symptoms. Possibly at least 28 to 55 times more people than we know in LA County had it.
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I appreciate the effort to save lives but hate its significant drawbacks. At some point, a responsible adult will say I will protect the high risks but business needs to go back as usual. I want to see a Kgirl without sneaking around.
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This is a very good post...I would say that the COVID-19 is fucking dangerous but the NON STOP coverage of this shit magnifies the fear among many.
More studies like this are needed to give better information on opening the economy.
"Is it fucking dangerous", but rather, "Is it dangerous fucking."
As BT says above, if you are in a high-risk group, i.e., 80 years old and already missing a lung, then it will probably kill you, but those people had one foot in the grave already. Many may not have survived another year even WITHOUT corona lurking in every nose they see. Over the weekend, LA tested 150 homeless people that have been in a shelter for two+ weeks. 70 tested positive, but only 3 have had any symptoms at all. Its fair to speculate the other 80 may have already had it and survived. We won't know until the antibody test is widely available. Some of the ones here that have been hunkering down for 6 weeks may find that they already had it, too, but didn't know it.
And you are right about the media ginning up the fear level. I tried to get my manicurist to come to my house (the shop has been closed since March 16) and she is scared shitless, even though I said we would both wear a mask. I told her I have already tested negative a few weeks ago, and since then, my fingers have only been in pussies, no mouths or noses. She still wasn't convinced it was safe.
you be very quiet and not stop at the door if people are around so "sneaking" a little bit is still going to be required.
covid 19 confirmed USA diagnosis 817,592, confirmed deaths 45,279...age distribution in Los Angeles 0-20 years 28%, 20-45 years 43%, 45-65 years 18% over 65 10%... 10 southwest 727's could have crashed EVERY day in March and April and not killed as many people as covid-19.. .my colleague in New York works in a hospital with a capacity of 180 beds, last week they had 200 beds of Covid patients....people are contagious a week before they have symptoms, and continue to be contagious for a variable time after there symptoms stop.....about 30 USA health workers have died after contracting the disease presumably from taking care of patients.it is safer to get a needle stick from an HIV+ patient than it is be admitted to a hospital with corona virus..it is safer to bareback an HIV+ patient than be admitted to a hospital with corona virus....of course we are all free to see sex workers who are at high risk for this disease during this time....but mocking people who are protecting their and their countries health is ignorant .....whatever you decide to do please do it as safely as possible
or the OP? If its me, you must have your setting on "Flat Mode" which means whenever you post, it will be all the way to the left edge. If you switch to "tree mode" and click "reply" that is underneath the post you want to reply to, it will indent one space to the right, and the rest of us will know which post you're responding to. Since all of your posts on this thread are to the left edge, it appears you are in flat mode.
thanks for the info, please excuse my lack of facility in posting...i was not replying specifically to you...I don't think my posts will influence your behavior....my message is intended for those who don't have good info regarding the seriousness of this virus, or have an ambivalence as how to proceed....I have colleagues in China, Europe and South America....unfortunately they all describe devastating events....when you see people on ventilators on a daily basis its easier to understand you can try to avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of reality...
covid 19 confirmed USA diagnosis 817,592, confirmed deaths 45,279...age distribution in Los Angeles 0-20 years 28%, 20-45 years 43%, 45-65 years 18% over 65 10%... 10 southwest 727's could have crashed EVERY day in March and April and not killed as many people as covid-19.. .my colleague in New York works in a hospital with a capacity of 180 beds, last week they had 200 beds of Covid patients....people are contagious a week before they have symptoms, and continue to be contagious for a variable time after there symptoms stop.....about 30 USA health workers have died after contracting the disease presumably from taking care of patients.it is safer to get a needle stick from an HIV+ patient than it is be admitted to a hospital with corona virus..it is safer to bareback an HIV+ patient than be admitted to a hospital with corona virus....of course we are all free to see sex workers who are at high risk for this disease during this time....but mocking people who are protecting their and their countries health is ignorant .....whatever you decide to do please do it as safely as possible
The good news is that the more asymptomatic cases and non lethal cases we discover the lower the death rate becomes. The details are in the math. Not nearly the death rate they first predicted.
Muffy, You and I don't agree on a lot, but we are in COMPLETE agreement here. 50,000 deaths sounds terrifying when it's put up against a total infection number of a little less than a million. The chances of dying seem to be worth locking yourself in the basement, letting crops rot in the field and watching entire industries be destroyed because of the bogeyman called COVID 19.
Now lets say the infection rate is more like 20% of the population has been exposed to the virus instead of the official number of about 1 in 300. Or even lets say 10% of the population would test positive to either having COVID or having the antibodies that prove they once had it and "recovered". 50,000 deaths out of 30 MILLION cases is a fatality rate of only 0.16%, not much more than the normal flu, not to mention that MOST of the 50,000 people who died either lived in one of two states, lived in a nursing home, or already suffered from so other respiratory illness. When you factor these facts into the equation you are more likely to die in a car wreck, on your way to see a K-girl, than you are likely to die of this disease.
For those of you who do live in NYC, are in a nursing home and are already suffering from lung cancer, I'll light a candle for you, but for the rest of us, PLEASE grow a fucking pair and let's not bankrupt this country over a bunch of hyped up numbers put out by fear mongers who want to "shelter shame" us.
Must a KGirl be of Korean descent or would any Asian girl fall under that heading?
but here is what MOST of us agree what defines a K-Girl.
A K-girl is first of all a native born and raised KOREAN, and that excludes both American born Koreans and Koreans bornin Korea but raised in the US. A K-girl is also a provider who works out of a AAMP incall. Some people consider Korean AMP girls (different from AAMPs) to be K-Girls, but most of us exclude the AMP girls.
A K-Girl also must be a provider that works either for an agency, or if independent gets her appointments through a booker, and does not run her own ads, do her own screening, or schedule her own appointments. Now there is a certain overlap in the business model that many Asian providers from other countries employ that is VERY similar to the way the K-Girls work, most notably the Thai Girls, but of course a girl from Thailand is NOT Korean, and the difference in appearance is significant, Thai Girls are a separate category from K-Girls. Obviously, well obviously to everyone but IMP, a K-Girl has to be a provider, civvie girls are NOT K-Girls, I know this should go without saying, but there are no limits to the stupidity of certain people. It's like having a warning on a iron to NOT test the heat with your tongue, you would think that such a warning would be unnecessary, but.....
but I can't. You ticked every box, and in much fewer words than I would have used. Lol
I've been going to Korean AMPs since the early 80s, and have been active in seeing other sorts of providers since the 90s in DC. Only became aware of the K-Girl operations in the DC area about 6 or so years ago.
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I assume the K-Girl phenomena emerged in LA. Has it been going on for a long time, like decades?
Yes, korean girls have been around forever. I started seeing korean girls at the aamps in Irvine at the many spas that we're littered around John Wayne airport and many of the spas around Santa Monica in the 90's.
But, in 2002 when the dude that started Park Asian in West LA and calling them kgirls really took off.
Kinda remembered when Koreans visiting the USA were no longer required to have a tourist visa. The waves of Kgirls entering the country started right after that time.
I started seeing K-girls in February 2004 before the Park Asian agency existed. Park Asian started sometime later in 2004, or it might have even been 2005.
I am sorry but I will shock you if I describe a Kgirl completely. GaG gave you the gist of it.
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Despite the language barrier, a Kgirl can make me feel like I am their boyfriend when I step into their bedroom for just one hour. Once I saw the first Kgirl, I was hooked to the point that I see Kgirls exclusively after that.
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For me, it's not where you were born and raised that makes a Kgirl. It's the spirit. I have seen other ethnicities that have the "Kgirl spirit" or booked by the same Kbooker. Disagreements will come if I describe the "Kgirl spirit".
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A Kfan will recognize a Kgirl when he sees their website.
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"A Kfan will recognize a Kgirl when he sees their website."
We've devolved to k-girls are like ducks -- (looks like, quacks like and waddles like must be a duck
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck, are you telling me it's not a duck?
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Sorry, I have a bad habit of leaving things up to interpretation.
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I didn't say, a Kfan "recognizes" a Kgirl when he sees their website. He "will" recognize a Kgirl because he will come and verify based on the info on her website, if the info suggested she is a Kgirl.
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I am not so shallow as to judge a book only by its cover. Although a beautiful cover tickles my fancy and makes me want to open the book. Also, someone PMs me but I have no VIP.
Could be an "ugly duckling" -- that was no duck.
And, are taking that so seriously that you need to justify yourself here?
I suppose I should say sorry or something....
I read TER to be educated and was trying to find out if there was a new species of water bird.
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Kfans have been looked down by many on TER and I didn't want the beautiful Brianna to think I can't tell a duck from a beautiful swan. This is my last post about ducks. Good day to you sir.
Does that mean she's a little chaffed from one too many customers? Lol
Nah, one of the rare 2 men one K-girl sessions and she's switching ACG position between the men.
a few times. and its got me thinking about asking around to my regulars to see who has a cheerleading skirt. Don't need the sweater or the panties, just the skirt would be cool. Give me a "K". Lol