... or what would a Kgirl need to be able to command a higher price?
In my short time in the hobby, I haven't come to understand why kgirl donations are so much lower than most other girls. Even russian fobs ask for 400/hr. Would you spend 350-400/hr on a kgirl? If not, why?As I mentioned in another thread, (South) Korea has visa waiver status with the US, so Korean girls can come and go. Your example of Russian girls is different, as Russia does not have visa waiver status. Very difficult to get girls from Russia
would johns just stop using them altogether?
The fact that kgirls come and go means there's a limited time to get your dick in a fresh one, and since everyone like me is hammering the bookers (and failing) for an appt, they should have the ability to jack up their prices.
In my short time in the hobby, I haven't come to understand why kgirl donations are so much lower than most other girls.
Even russian fobs ask for 400/hr.
Would you spend 350-400/hr on a kgirl? If not, why?
....as an old timer I remember that before the K-girl influx, a lot of the Asian gals WERE charging $400 plus per hour. Some names from the past: How about Seda, Rene (Sylvia), Porn Pon, Dee (Thai gals), and of course how about Joanna and the never to be duplicated Mimi LAX? If I think back, I'm sure I could find others. From a purely economic standpoint we should be thankful for the revolving "90 day wonders". Without them, I'm sure you would see the fees for the top notch gals moving up rather quickly. Ciao!
The two things they had in common besides great service was
a total command of the English Language and were all indies.
Seda was $300 in 2010, not sure if were talking same girl Porn Pan $250 in 2009. Not many Hardly K-girls in 2004 and some were charging $300. Higher numbers started in 2005 when standard rate became $250/hour.
and that would raise rates according to Econ 101.
But hey, I got a C+ in that class, so what do i know.
In my short time in the hobby, I haven't come to understand why kgirl donations are so much lower than most other girls.
Even russian fobs ask for 400/hr.
Would you spend 350-400/hr on a kgirl? If not, why?
Demand not even close to supply. Many girls wait around
all day waiting for customers.
all day waiting for customers.
I would have thought they were booked to the brim when they ignored me multiple times after trying to book some new kgirls.
I have seen only 1 kgirl Amy so far since last month, and used her as a reference.
Funny thing is Amy's booker answered a reference request from a Latina I saw afterwards.
I can only assume Amy's booker would also have answered a reference request from other kgirl bookers had they bothered to verify me.
But nope. These new kgirls were available multiple times a day on cityvibe, and my numerous civil requests to book an appointment, along with references, were ignored. I texted these bookers that I'm available 24/7 today tomorrow and the next day, so put me in for an hour, your pick.
How hard is it to fit a 24/7 john?
These new kgirls still remain little-reviewed.
So if they're standing around all day waiting, then the bookers are fucking shit up
Whetdick - if you can't pass a K-girl booker screening process, you don't belong here.
I'm not a big dick black guy or a korean.
I don't see what's so untrustworthy about me that they can't give me an hour
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well fuck that shit. If one k-girl reference and a few other non-kgirl references can't get me a kgirl who is "standing around," I just move on. their loss.
I'm not a big dick black guy or a korean.
I don't see what's so untrustworthy about me that they can't give me an hour
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is indicative of your tone with the bookers I cannot imagine why the bookers aren 't falling all over themselves to accomodate you...NOT!
Lose the 'tude, dude. You might be surprised at how helpful the bookers really are. That's if you haven't already earned a spot on the black list with your sterling personality.
the tone is only used here.
I am completely civil and neutral when requesting an appointment by text. No petulance.
Lose the 'tude, dude. You might be surprised at how helpful the bookers really are. That's if you haven't already earned a spot on the black list with your sterling personality.
smooth and sophisticated you silver-tongued devil, and they don't believe you're for real.
I can share my experience to corroborate his observation. I frequent 3 well known bldgs on the LA west side that house probably 20 Kgirls. You'd think at any given time there are guys coming in and out. Well, no matter what time I passed by, or visit, hardly any guy is seen.
The only time you may see a few guys would be the most popular 11 AM time slot. That's when I saw once after an unusual 10 AM apptmt.
So much for the K detractors' so-called high volume scare. (Lol)
Top quality Kgirls get career packages from whales and disappear from marketplace. Some don't even make it onto the platform. Most sharks have their 2hr/twice a week ATFs, that's 1000/week per girl. Some even have two or three of them thanks to the almighty blue pill. If you count equipment/consumable/gifts/tips/opportunity cost it's already 400+/hr.
In the meanwhile, Korean 101A at SMC runs around 230 per semester. UCLA extension offers excellent Chinese/Japanese programs at a fraction of a cost. To be brutally honest, in LA a successful man needs to be fluent in at least three languages and additionally conversational in three others. If you can piece together English/Korean/Japanese/Chinese in a word salad, suddenly your sessions become a little bit more magical.
multiple currencies is more valuable than multiple languages, but that's just the way I look at things. I will speak their currency if they will speak my language. No shortage of takers. Its almost a foolproof system that has served me well for three decades.
It's all about the money and being a good
and regular customer. After that you could
speak Pig Latin.
After all, most of the guys would rather have the gal's mouth sucking on their manhoods rather than talking. LOL!
you would be the 1st to complain if the raise was over 3!
outlet mall of pussy. Same great services at lower prices and they make it up on the volume. Some of the older more jaded ones may seem a little shopworn and picked over, but there are still plenty of bargains on great styles to be had by the careful shopper that knows what he's looking for.
Agencies in korea right now charge 400-600 for english speaking girls. Non around 200-300.
As for the low rate, the owners are simply charging the avg price in korea. The girls just get a bigger cut in US vs Korea reason the trips to US to work.
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LA K-girls should raise their price to $300 for the top divas. Demand for the top divas certainly outstrips supply.
In my short time in the hobby, I haven't come to understand why kgirl donations are so much lower than most other girls.
Even russian fobs ask for 400/hr.
Would you spend 350-400/hr on a kgirl? If not, why?
Some do charge more. 260 and 270. Those are the indies or
ones who are smart enough to pass themselves off as an indy.
Back in 2009 LK and Irene actually went from 250 to 300 and
saw no dropoff in business. When LK returned she went back
to 250. When I asked why she said at 300 customers were more
demanding. She never elaborated but I think she meant BBFS
was expected at the higher rate where at 250 she didn't have to
appear as if she was offering anything not usually on the menu.
So that appears to be the perceived danger of the higher rates
when most of the other girls charge 250.
260 270 is so insignificant compared to 250.
ones who are smart enough to pass themselves off as an indy.
Back in 2009 LK and Irene actually went from 250 to 300 and
saw no dropoff in business. When LK returned she went back
to 250. When I asked why she said at 300 customers were more
demanding. She never elaborated but I think she meant BBFS
was expected at the higher rate where at 250 she didn't have to
appear as if she was offering anything not usually on the menu.
So that appears to be the perceived danger of the higher rates
when most of the other girls charge 250.
That's right. They keep it to a minimal increase for two possible
reasons. The fear of charging too much and lose business which
if they are good would not be much if at all. Second for the LK reason
not to have too much expected of them which I also don't think
would be the case. It's a business model that they adhere to.
Back in 2007 when I discovered Heather / Su Young / Victoria and saw her exclusively for about a year and a half (she was beautiful, sexy, highly skilled, AND five minutes from work...) her rate was $300. She dropped it to $250 when she moved from WLA to MW in 2009; not really sure why. I only saw her three or so times after she moved because I hate traffic and will not even consider MW, at least I won't on a weekday.
Cheers,
BD
A long time vet told me that a few times he tried for the $600/hr but was declined. She was also business savvy and limited her reviews to 20. The monger told me that the magic # 20 has special significance, becuz it's just enough to launch her into the top 100 list, but won't risk high # of reviews which tend to bring down average.
BPS seems to know her well. Any comment
I remember her when she was 500 working for 500
with Crystal's Beauties before they got busted.
She's been UTR for a while mainly out of Vegas.
In spite of her rates I never found her to be as
good as Mimi Lax who I met when she was charging 300
Now that was a bargain.
a mere $2000. Wonder what % each got?
The poor guy (well, rich guy) at least got a double-double 10 
I saw Mimi in early 2008 when she was only 300. Also
saw her with Joanna and I think that double was 400 or 500.
Brooke wasn't even around then.
Saw Brooke alone for 500.
Mimi always felt intimidated when working with Brooke
because of age and how guys went wild for Brooke's looks.
As far as I was concerned I would take Mimi hands down.
I was at a M&G couple of years ago, Brooke Song had approached Vivica about teaming up for doubles. I was chatting with Vivca at the time. Brooke Song commented to Vivica about her eurasian beauty and great reviews she received and she read. Vivica then asked me afterwards was Brooke Song any good. I told her she legendary. But also informed Vivica that Brooke Song was a $1000 an hour donation. If she considered duals with her to make sure she got her fair share. Not sure if that dual ever came to fruitation, but it would've been a legendary duo comparable to the MimiLax and Brooke Song combination.
I don't think Vivica did anal, did she?
Nope. But in looks Vivica is better looking. However MimiLax and Brooke Song certaintly have there own attributes, not withstanding.
Mimi + Joanne was 800. That duo was the best combination of talent and enthusiasm. Better than Mimi and Seda. Brooke alone was good, but too business like. Mimi just enjoyed the whole game.
Lucky me. I saw Mimi and Joanna for only 500. That was back in the day.
Sexy Lohan spoke perfect English and was a top notch 9.5 body and 10.0 service. $50 premium. It's supply and demand
have had a few k-girl experiences. All generally positive, yet I think that $300 is the right ballpark price when compared to the general offering. Here is why. Their performance is certainly good, but, IMO, always sort of "standard".
If I compare this to girls from south america (notably venezuela) or even american girls,
the latter two groups would deliver experiences that may be disappointing at times, but that may also turn up to be stellar when you are not expecting it. K-girls are good, but I still detect something mechanic about the whole experience.
Compare this to a a curvaceous latina who says she's not available for anal sex, but still will give up
and let you fuck her sweet ass if you don't take her first no for an answer. Or one which will swallow when
you least expect it. Or one that will ask you to please still fuck her and let her come when you communicate that you are happy and ready to come and wrap up. Those are wow experiences to me and I strongly suspect that a K-girl will hardly deliver it (and yes, it's quite possible that language does play a role in it). They are the sex equivalent of japanese cars. Reliable. Great bang for the buck. But not what you pick if you are in the mood for something memorable. Of course, speaking about cars, YMMV
god bless k-girls, latinas and girls from all over the world.
I've been doing this for quite a while and all the attributes
you speak of can be found in the K-girl community. It's like
anything, there is no stereotype. A K-girl will go through
her routine if you don't begin with your own routine. Once
there they go with the flow. That's
been my experience almost every time.
you may be right, but looking at the k-girls review over time I see a pattern: good to great reviews, but no anal and no swallow
I appreciate your perspective but you haven't been around that
long and haven't experienced what I have over the years.
I'm not trying to be condescending. Just telling my personal
experience. There are some unbelievable girls out there.
no Kgirls that offer Anal or Swallow, then you haven't seen Yoona. One-stop shopping if those are your things. Many more Asian indies offer one or both, but usually at a higher rate than the standard LA Kgirl rate of $250.
hanks.
Not based in LA. Now that you mention it though, you are right that all kgirls I met came from LA.
What's the deal? LA a hub for k-girls
as a place to work for most Kgirls. Good weather year round unlike the major East Coast cities. High number of hobbyists here insures that the top girls will likely be booked solid on the days they want to work. The great ones stay here and become legends. The second tier performers will work here until things slow down for them and then start touring to other cities where they will be coveted for a time as the "new" girl. Popular girls in other cities often stay there permanently. I had an LA regular that was getting a little older and business slowed down for her, so she moved up North and stayed a whole year back and forth between Seattle and Portland and was very busy the whole time. LA is just a tough market for many.
Actually the ones who I experienced that with
were all at the same 250.