several years ago when they first started appearing in large numbers in LA. I got completely burned out on them because all but two were pushing the upsell for things that are already on most Kgirl menus, like BBBJ, CIM, DATY and DFK. The advertised rate was just CFS with a lot of lube. It may have changed since then, but I still hear from other hobbyists about upsell, so I have stayed away.
...the late 1990's, not "several years ago." You know, CDL, this thing of ours existed long before you and I were involved in it. Just because you didn't know about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
The Russians dominated the L.A. market far more than K-girls do now. No upsell and $100. got you an hour with some of the most gorgeous women in the world. Don't take my word for it - ask Silkstalkings.
CV ads. If they were advertising somewhere else prior to about five years ago, I wouldn't have known it, but you're nickpicking the details on my post, My point is that they are well-known for the upsell the last five years. Don't take my word for it, read some reviews. I could care less if they were not upselling in the 1990's. I wasn't a customer then, and I doubt many on this Kgirl board were hobbying then, either, so what happened in the 1990's is irrelevant to 90%+ of the guys reading this thread. They're not going to run out and see Ruskies anyway, but you have made your point for the few that care. You are an accomplished researcher on the internet, as you have shown before.
...the only nit I'm picking is that you made a positive statement of fact that the Russians "first" appeared in L.A. five years ago. Your knowledge of the L.A. scene is limited to the time you have participated in it. Don't make declaratory statements if you don't know what you're talking about.
you have qualified it for everyone, so you have had your moment. Thank you for helping.
Just like you're speaking from your own personal experience, so was I. I can only say what my experience was when I was seeing them. I'm not making any positive statement about what happened before that. You're jumping to conclusions.
It was in mid 90's, mostly they were working out of WLA, some providers in W Hollywood and a couple of them in MW til early morning running ads off printed news paper. It was $200 hour for two rounds and and all covered. Providers were in early 20's and hot looking. Some lfk/dfk.
I'm not sure if it's the same group (or at least booking service), but there's definitely been a noticeable amount that were going through Seattle... maybe a new girl coming through every month. They were there maybe a week and then gone. They all claim in their ads to be some sort of European except Easter European, but it was pretty obvious they were all Easter Euro. They all had the same rate as well. 2 issues with these girls were the the pics were VERY glammed up and the experiences varied from girl to girl. Some were very GFE, others were basically CFS with a 1 minute BBBJ. One girl set an alarm for 45 minutes as a 15 minute warning to get ready to leave... talk about buzzkill.
There was another agency that was recommended to me when I was visiting NYC that had insanely good reviews and I think they toured as well.
in the first decade of the 2000's because more often than not the odds of getting my money's worth were not even close to the 50-50 Red v. Black bet but more like the 1 in 37 traditional roulette bet. Yes, there were some absolutely DDG women, but that can only go so far if we are looking for GFE. I did try again a few years ago to check in on the scene, and got a Russian MILF that was uninspiring in bed to say the least.
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