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"Bad" referral problem
FourInchFred 2 Reviews 11650 reads
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Looking for a non-smoking in-call provider in the Fort Lauderdale area who will give me a second chance as a provider I had regulary seen gave me a bad reference.  For what, no one will tell me.  I have never used alcohol or drugs, and I don't smoke.  I have never hit or harassed any female or had any inappropriate behaviours I am aware of.  If some one has any clue what I have done to cost me the privilege of using providers, please let me know.  How can I correct a misbehaviour if I don't know what it is I did.  I personally think the first provider got angry that I had contacted a second provider which she learned of when that provider looked up my reviews and called her for a reference.

I am a nice guy, never been in any trouble who works a job with hours that makes finding a normal social relationaship with the opposite sex unlikely.

She saw me five times in 2003 and sent me an invitation for another round after she was contacted by the new provider.

If nothing else, I would appreciate any feedback on how to "clear" my name.

Thanks!

JCinNYC 10354 reads
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WRT "clearing your name"

Either two things happened:

a) She was "john possessive", and gave you a deliberate "bad review" to keep you from seeing someone else. To prevent this in the future, try using an out of town reference to see a local girl instead of another local. There is a lot of unspoken competition and backstabbing in the local scene you may know nothing about. Another thing you need to do is to ask your first escort for permission to use her as a referral FIRST before it comes as a surprise from another. Then you can assess her reaction to it, plus you can go to the other girl and say, "I talked with Muffin about using her as a reference to see you and she said fine, call her anytime" ...so if the new lady hears something BAD, she may doubt Muffy and not you. You put a little pressure on Muffin to cooperate.

Ask the other lady what she heard about you. You could also forward your email to the new lady showing her that your BAD reference was willing to see you again, lol! Her credibility will be shot in the referral community, as it should be if this is what happened...

b) The second possible reason is something many of you men won't understand:  she simply heard something by the referring woman that she didn't want to hear about you. It may not necessarily have been "bad" or entail any of the things you mention in your post. Many of you seem to think there is only two reference possibilities and two outcomes:

-OK = seen, not a cop or serial killer, perfect gentleman = Good Reference, she sees me;

-NO = never seen, violent, asshole = Bad Reference, she won't.

Not the case.

Many women have a preferred customer profile. This may encompass demographic information (age, size (ahem), marital status, whether you are local or non local) or your general demeanor, personality type or type of activities you like.

Usually, when an escort chats with another about a potential client, there is more information exchanged than just "OK" OR "NEVER AGAIN". There's usually a "what's he like"? moment.

When I talk to another lady I am listening for hints of certain qualities or demographic information or asking directly about them. Sometimes the woman you want to see will hear a tidbit that she doesn't want to hear about you from the other lady. The other lady has NO IDEA she's revealing things about you that will cause the other lady not to see you. Those qualities may not have bothered the other woman at all, but it was information the other didn't want to hear.

So you are rejected based on the referral, kindasorta-- but not in the way you think.

Example: I strongly prefer older local married men who like shorter appts (under 90 min). I find them to be the best regulars, the best behaved, safest, and most trouble free clients. They are the ones I want to build my business around, the rest, I really don't want to bother with seeing. My biggest problem with clients is emotionally needy men who are either too high maintainence or those who get too attached,nag me for dates or get hopeful of a relationship.

Therefore, if I know ahead of time if a man is single, I will not see him. Sometimes a man will mention this in an introductory email and I will reject him on this basis. Often it is not but does come up in the conversation with the other lady.

If I hear from her that the man acts like a BFE, I won't see him. If he is described as "lonely", "needy", "romantic", a "pleaser" or a "worshipper" types (puts-women-on-a-pedestal)...I won't see him. I also don't like shy or nervous men or submissive men. I'll see men described as "boring" but only for short appts, not dinner dates! I also have no interest in seeing "shoppers" --men who see a lady only once then move on--or a non local since regular potential is a quality I assess as well.

In many cases, a man will reveal these tidbits about himself in his emails, calls or board posts.

Most women do not like to state their preferences or client qualifications upfront because then men just _lie_ about themselves or rejigger their approach to get a date with her once they know what she is looking for - the "adverse selection" problem in economics lingo--so you get a firm but ambiguous rejection notice.

You may have been rejected in this manner as well - which may be for the best as the lady has substantial experience in recognizing the type she's going to get on with and those she won't. Just move on and don't act like some stalker who's entitled to get an appt.

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