We all know it is bad form to offer a lady less than her posted rate (I never did when I hobbied). But as a business owner, I personally like the right to field all proposals and have the option of accepting or declining on a case by case basis. It gives me a chance to take into consideration variables that change almost daily.

My question is this.  Would you ladies like to receive a nicely phrased, polite offer from a gentleman and have the option of accepting or declining, or would you rather stick with the published rate and not entertain anything else? Is it offensive to receive such requests? Does it open up Pandora's box?

I always considered it rude to haggle in these instances, but times have changed and maybe some ladies would rather decide themselves if their current situation warrants an exception.

I used to get PM's from Newbs or visitors every day about this subject and my advice was always to make a respectful offer based on what you could afford and be prepared to have it declined.

The first lady that I met in the hobby experimented in offering her available time slots in an E-bay type manner.

Please see the link.

I really can't state how successful it was for her business.  I met her after this promotion.

She also used to offer discounts to regulars that met with her several times within a month's period of time.

Alas, she is long-gone (retired) from the hobby scene.

Note:  I have never attempted to negotiate a rate.  However, I have taken advantage of discounts.

of what you're saying... in my real world business, I do have set rates, but there is some room for negotiation based on time of year, etc.

As Tabu, however, I feel it a bit distasteful to be haggled with.

I just finished offering the first "special," if you can call it that, that I ever have. But instead of discounting my regular $350/hr rate, I added extra time as the bonus.

The fellows who took advantage of the offer were happy, and so was I-- I didn't get low-ball offers, and I designed it to suit my own needs, as well. A win-win.

So the short answer, for me, at least, is no.

On this one, I think its poor taste to ask for, or offer, something other than a ladies posted rate for a first time meeting.

The only time a possible "offer" may be acceptable is on a multi hr date, or maybe a multi hr date that includes time on the town, then it may be accepted.  This of course only AFTER you have seen the lady in the past and you both got along.

I did have a lady tell me in the past she has a wonderful rate for overnights for clients who are regulars, etc...so its not out of the question.  And yes, its much lower then her posted rate. (Dont ask who, I wont say)

Tabu brings up a great point, rather than offering a "reduced rate" several ladies have offered the 90 min hr, but at the posted hr rate.  

I'll be curious to read other responses to this.  Good question.

Cheers

Just trying to establish proper decorum and answer a question many have asked me.  

In my defense, I did say in my post that I think it was bad form.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=108735&boardID=16&page=1


Yes? NO?  

...through an agency. They asked her on my behalf for a $1000/2 hour date, when her hourly rate was $700. Her rate wasn't exactly causing a stampede of clients, so she accepted.

I think if it's done respectfully and within reasonable limits a good time can be had by all.

As long as noone finds out about it, many will be happy to have some $$ coming in even at a reduced rate. To save face, sometimes they say they'll knock off 15 minutes, or some other modification. In the end, the service is usually just as good.

I've also seen well-known providers assume a second identity and advertise on the lower tier sites at a reduced rate. One recently has even been running two identities on TER, getting reviews from the same gentleman.

One time I was seeking a forbidden experience. This one provider really laid into me on the board; but, immediately IM'd me saying regardless of what she said on the board, she does offer that service to a few select clients. The BC is a hobbyist's best friend. Some real action goes on back there, you'd be surprised--or maybe not.

For me its not feasible to offer lower rates because my rates are already low. I have even considered raising my rates a little. Don't know if I should or not.
So no for me.
Kisses

You and I will have some private negotiations tomorrow.....Oh yes..we will...hottie!




Welcome to "Priceline.com".  :::wink:::


lol

I have to make up the Hotel room repair bills we needed the last time we were together.

Broken lamp = $50

All the desk crap being swiped off onto the floor and broken so we could do it there too = $125

Spackling and painting ceiling where trapeze was attached = $75

Two hours with Hurricane Khori = Priceless

It was priceless.....

Don't forget the trampoline this time!!!

Ashley--You would have NO problems raising your rates. In fact, I have a little something extra for you on my next visit. It's going to be a surprise. Once again I'm counting down the hours gorgeous.

SR

And spends several years cultivating relationships with providers that routinely go unpaid as they think they are the girlfriend of a hobbyist. Some even leave the hobby for 'real jobs', as the cheap hobbyist feels the need to portray an image and control those around them. My attitude is...stop trying to take advantage of tough times...if you have the money you portray, stop perpetrating a myth, and start paying the girls....

just sayin'

p.s. thanks for re-surfacing

Let's let the fur fly. Don't know who you are or what you are talking about, but we should discuss it. This should be good.

Hmmm...this is interesting.  To negotiate is a little differnet from seeing if somoene will just take less money.  I think if a provider indicates that barter or some other type of renumerance is possible, then maybe yes.  I have considered renting out a very nice condo to providers instead of going through the whole "find a tenant" process.  In that situation i would be able to cut the rent from the $1400 to say something less if a provider was willing to exchange for some companionship time...maybe after the current ones move out I will try it...sorry ladies..it's not in Florida!

How is that for creative?

I guess if I were looking at how many providers
the "business owner" reviewed , added up all
those figures to remind myself what he can spend
in less than 1 year compared to how long he has
been self employed, and learning about his lifestyle ,IE: does he live below his means or if his business just taking off is he struggling in order for me to decide on how to conduct business with a "business owner" . I would have to come to the conculsion that it would be in bad taste to give a reduced rate to any well established
business owner who falls into a higher tax bracket.  

I don't know what kind of business you are in
if you sell homes or own a bank, but the more
elite your business the less I feel a deserving
discount.Business is business and unless you have some kind of a sweet deal that has some value I see no reason to ask . Some men have 2 million dollar homes no kids at home and cant part with
money and when I see this I just knodd my head
wondering.I mean how much money do some
very wealthy people need ? Not saying you are
filthy rich just a comment.

I also look at a man who is just getting a business started and who wants to pay 4 play to celebrate perhaps his first deal.Most self employed people do so well they want to celebrate and by far are able to do so. You can't take money with you when you die so we are here to bring pleasure  to your life which will prolong it and you know that is a priceless rate .
   
Angela

The issue is, before you meet someone you don't know how much you'll like them.

If you've met someone once and had a great time then you might be a little more flexible on rates.

But it's touchy - like today I got an offer of 2/3rds of my usual rate from a guy I'd met once and who earns many more times more than most people I know (and the population). He said he didn't have any 'cash'. Are you kidding me????

I think if the figures aren't too wildly disparate, perhaps they can be considered.

My issue is that often I'm offered longer dates in exotic locations and I have to make a judegement call on that. 2 days with great company is wonderful for example, but two days with someone you're not crazy about/surprises you is a different thing. And even the people you think you know can surprise you.

Tamara G x

So before you entertain any offer, you need my business credentials, financial statements, type of home and number of kids?

I gotta admit Ms. Angela, you have me stumped on this one.

Here's a question;  If your hourly rate is $500/hr, would you want to get an offer of $750/2hr, or are you insulted by it?  I realize that we are talking way more than a simple commodity here, but I think that I would rather have the offer presented and have the choice of accepting or declining than not.

This is great information we can all use.

(Scene: boneboybob has just had a great session a few months ago with a DDG provider who shall remain nameless- she's only available every so often when she posts on TER. This was an advertised special she ran. I've seen this lady a couple times before this, because she's just flat hot, and she just does things for me and pops me in record time, on top of being DDG, and is happy with multiple cups.)

B: Thank you! Wow, that was a lot of fun! I wish you ran more specials! I'd see you more often.

P: Well, tell you what- you can have that rate whenever you see me.

B: Thanks! Cool, I will see you again!

FIN

I actually was NOT trying to get a "special rate"; it was a throwaway comment because I'd had a good session. Her standard rate wasn't unreasonable for her market and her skills- at her "special" she's a total steal. Of course, incumbent on that is that's MY rate- ye olde YMMV.

I'm just not a fan of soliciting discounts- I'd much rather pay what I can afford, and have a session with someone FIRST. What often happens after that is that the dinners off the clock and price breaks can happen if you follow the Golden Rule, and treat people with consideration and kindness- but you should NEVER feel entitled to anything other than what you paid for (and I am not so stupid and self-centered to think my charms make up for the ability to acquire dead presidents).

I've had the offer a couple times.  She was a great lady, we hit it off, and she offered to keep seeing me at her special rate.  Kept me coming back.  Also have seen a lady who has a unique way of keeping return visitors.  Once you have seen her, if the date goes well, and she'd like you to return, her donation is lower for return visits.
I've never asked for a "deal" or tried to negotiate rates.  I know her rates up front, and If I want to see her, thats what's in the envelope.
However, I have no problem with any lady offering specials.  I've never met a lady that gave less performance just because she lowered the price!

Sweetheart

Yes I want to know that you are legit so I do ask
your business credentials and I do cross reference.
I do not check your property records my comment about the man in th eestate home was a mere example.

750 is fine its worth a couple of hours of
my time and if we're hitting it off I might
go a tad overtime. You have to understand that
everyone does business differently so to discuss
business with you not knowing your name, not having any references other than a board ID and how many reviews that board ID has submitted I don't know you.Once I know who I am dealing with , we may discuss but if you think its alright to get into that practice of negotiating a fee, maybe a few episodes of bad boys will help you understand the risks involved . To lower my standards and play into discussing or negotiating any fee would demote who I am .

I could go on as to why I play safe and screen
but the page would be an instruction manual .

Don't want to change subject, but if you repeat with a provider and her rates have increased, is it proper to at least ask about whether you are grandfathered into original rates?