In the interest of discussion, I am curious as to opinions on the sugar baby versus provider viewpoint.  I will relate my experience.  I have seen only a handfull of what I would assume are mid/upper level providers ($500 - $800/hr), nothing to complain about.  Although some were better than others.  Now I have also had a few experiences with sugar babies.  To be honest, I am not really sure the difference between the two, other than the fact that one, for some reason, is legal (or yet to be prosecuted).  Most of the sugar babies that I have interacted with want a per/visit payment (sound familiar?) not a regular stipend, although they are open to that too.  Now I am in G-ville, and perhaps this is skewing my experience, but these sugar babies are not BP scud, they are attractive UF student coeds.  I am amazed at how "open" 19-22 yo girls are now (I wish I was a student again!).  I guess from my position, I see alot of plusses on the sugar baby route, with the number one being that it is "legal".  Cost appears to be comparable, selection is good, and you do develop more of a connection with a sugar baby than a provider, which strengthens the "fantasy".  Now on the down side, I think it can be more time consuming investment and there is no guarantee that you will get the girl that you want or she will do the more extreme things you are interested in (but I was amazed to have one DT me, something none of my provider experiences did).  I suppose there is also the potential crazy girl.  I don't think its a viable option for providers though, idk, I think it would be difficult to get enough sugar daddies to make the same level of income.  I could be wrong, given the right location I could see someone with 3 sugar daddies making a decent income.  Have any providers tried the sugar baby route?  Any guys?  Maybe its just the flip side of the coin for G-ville, no providers, but plenty of sugar babies.

If you are paying per visit it still walks like a duck.  What is the difference to LE?  After the first visit I guess you are both satisfied that neither of you are law dogs but the first meeting is still a nerve wracking time is it not?  How often do you have to visit to be considered a sugar daddy?  I like that demographic and that is what I look for but the topic has never came up even after a couple of visits.  While I have never dropped the coin for the upper level provider, I have had some off the chain times and can not imagine that an extra 300 to 500 would provide something 2 or 3 times a better experience. (I could be wrong,  but I am not willing to wait that long to afford that type of appointment). but now that you mention it I guess I will search for sugar babies and try it out.

I became interested in the sugar baby thing after seeing a piece on CNN done on it.  For some reason, LE does not appear interested in staking out and sorting what I guess is closer to the "relationship between two consenting adults".  So no, I did not have any nervousness in meeting.  Now I would say that I have always had a pre-meeting, either lunch/dinner/drinks before we ever got busy.  So again, I can see the negative being the time investment.  But as a counter-point, I would have liked to have pre-met the few providers that I have been with without paying for their time.  I know I would have looked elsewhere.

How do you go about finding them? Unless that's just another thing missing in this area...😦

Honestly, the SB searches and arrangements are too labor intensive for my liking. I really don't want to cyber romance with 300 emails and 50 phone calls. There is just too much involvement and some of those SB types have a lot of baggage.

Not only that, just wait until they start handing you their electric bills and complaining when the rent is due and they need plane fare to visit their "sick" mother, etc etc. To me they are not worth it.

Sugar babies you have a mental connection with. Sugar babies are really your friend. You can count on a sugar baby. Sugar babies are not all about the money. Sugar babies are exclusive. Sugar babies should have their honor defended. Hmmm no difference at all.

meaning a number of sugar daddies is idios.

A sugar baby relationship is a lot like the internet site dating setup.  You meet via a web site, and you have a initial meeting.  I like the initial meeting, a relaxing dinner or drinks with a chance to get comfortable with someone and see if there is a desire for further meetings.  The type of relationship would be impossible for LE to build a case, unless the SB was offering sex for money openly on the initial meeting, IMHO.

A girl classy and hot enough to be a "Sugar Baby" has negotiated a stipend with a willing gentleman. Definition of "Stipend"; a fixed sum of money paid periodically for services or to defray expenses. It need not be exclusive with a single gentleman providing the gentleman knows of the other or others. However if you are generous enough the arrangement is usually exclusive. Remember, the stipend is paid regardless of your availability. Stipends run usually $1000 to $5000 per month, although I have a couple of friends that offer stipends in excess of $10,000. Pretty simple to understand yes?