I believe that there are times(not always, but sometimes) when a review speaks volumes more of the person submitting the review, than the provider herself..........If the majority of reviews state that a particular act is on the menu, and then, all of a sudden, it is not......Is it the provider?..Or is it the hobbyist?.....Or is it the providers opinion of the hobbyist that makes an act "not on the menu"?..........I know that for myself, If a hobbyist does not seem "gentle", considerate, and carry himself in a manner that is pleasing to me,.....some things simply will not be on the menu.......Is that unprofessional?.....Would the hobbyist prefer that we just pretend...regardless?.....Open to opinions, suggestions.......Hobbyist?.....Sister Providers?....Somebody give me some insight!!...Torre Lynn

HI, Torre,
Mutual respect should always be present at any date-Certainly if someone's a jerk, you shouldn't be expected to pretend anything-Pretend regardless? Absolutely not-It's been my experience that if someone's an A-Hole, it's best to chalk it up to a bad inning and don't deal with them anymore-You're always entitled to respect and if it's not forthcoming, bail would be my advice. A bad review by a jerk will stick out like a sore thumb against others and will I D the writer as a horse's patoot-I always read reviews for a potential date and if there is a bad one with loads of good ones, it's obvious the problem is the hobbyist and I would thus ignore it. I believe most hobbyists feel this way. Always enjoy your posts. later, 1rob

Thank you, My Dear....For the input....and the compliment.......I hope that you are enjoying the weekend!

a provider will even see me. I'll take whatever menu items I can get and go away overjoyed!!

.....(she smiles)......My life would sure be a whole lot easier!....(heh/heh)....Thank you for responding!

I have had the pleasure of seeing this lady seven times so far this year, and I want to tell anyone and everyone that this lady is first class. If you are an a-hole...well then you are going to be treated like an a-hole. Torre is a first class lady and by GOD she should be treated like a first class lady. If you do not understand the concept of hobbying, then get out of it.

..........don-da-da-dont.......My "white knight" to the rescue!

be treated as such.  Guys that act like a gentleman and treat ladies with the respect they deserve, should be given the full menu.  For those others who can't measure up, let them receive a more limited menu.

You raised some good questions.  Hope you get some good answers.

Swim

In that case, call off the date, send him home.  You don't like the guy, but he is sparkling clean, send him home.  Don't be taking his money and give a half assed effort, or withhold menu items offered to everyone else.  Yes, it's that simple.
If you have any kind of problem with a guy, leave his wallet alone, period!  You are the provider, you are in charge. That said, you are also responsible for the kind of time he has.
Some guys accept YMMV as a part of life. That's BS!  Either give it your best shot, or give him the heave ho, but no paid YMMV!

It's even better when she will see me again! I'm happy to be there.

Why would I not do my best to help make sure that we have the best time possible? Be groomed, no problem. Jump in the shower first? Personally, I feel better taking a shower at the start of our time, even if I had just taken one earlier in the day. It's only 10 min and I know I'm as clean as I can be. How can this be anything but good? And the most important thing, be in a happy mood.

Ed Happy Mustafa

We sometimes confuse business with pleasure. When you accept money for services yet to be determined you might encounter some confusion down the road. We can't ask up front about services, because the ladies don't like it and we could be cops, after all. We rely on reviews that are purely subjective, and I always assume YMMV about any given lady. She could be having a bad day, doesn't like my after-shave, etc.....so we do an extra amount of research and hope for the best.

The bottom line is if you're in the business of pleasure you've gotta suck it up sometimes (no pun intended), be professional and follow through with providing a satisfying experience because your future business depends on it. One bad review is usually thrown out by most veteran hobbyists, when positive ones are the norm, but that negative review could also turn alot of guys off.

Without knowing the exact situation in question it's difficult to say with any certainty what should be done. A lady demanding a fellow leave, as some suggest, could be problematic and potentially dangerous. Deciding at some point after accepting payment not to engage in a certain act, that you normally allow is the problem. It's your choice and thus your consequence.

It means the reviewer isn't trashing the provider, but for some reason the two didn't click. Everything went ok, but for some reason the reviewer just didn't feel as great as he'd hoped after the session. We all go into sessions expecting 9's and 10's especially if we've done the research. In this case he had a specific reason for stating it.

You don't provide enough info for anyone to make an informed decision; you obviously have your supporters here who have jumped to your defense and going so far as to call the guy an a-hole. However, this same guy has also reviewed 15-20 other providers with some very recognizable names and is white listed so some will find it hard to believe that he was anything but a gentleman. He obviously did his research about what is and isn't on the menu and yet for whatever reason you failed to meet those expectations so Y.M.M.V -- he is warning others what they might or might not run into and that is more than fair since we belong to this service for a reason. Swim brings up a good point about one bad review out of many great ones usually being thrown out and while I don't necissarily consider a review with y.m.m.v being bad the arbitrary withholding of services for someone with white listed seems odd to say the least. Wilco is right unless the guy really was as others have said an "a-hole" you should have been professional and followed through with the services normally available as it is somewhat hard to believe he was that bad and yet you did everything else???????

Every provider has the right to choose what to do and what not to do on a date. For example. If a guy is acting disrespectful or is not squeaky clean, she should limit the menu. She also has the right to close down the whole darn restaurant if she chooses. I  treat all my dates with kindness and respect and always write truthful reviews. This works for me and I think this is one of the reasons why I always have such a good time with the beautiful ladies I see. What a provider does on a date is her choice. If a guy puts forth the effort to make his date smile, he will be surprised on what she does for him for his efforts. My 2 cents.

SR

I apologize for any "offense" that this particular thread has created; I don't believe that I have stated anything critical of any one person; Only my own personal preferences....And if we are all honest....We ALL have our "special friends" in this hobby that we allow more than the average......more time....more activities....more passion....more whatever.....and that is simply because we "click" better with some than others.........Once again, I apologize for any offense that was taken...........In seeking different perspectives,.....I have surely found a topic that will obviously "stir up some freelings"..........Leaving now to go out of town....Hope everyone enjoys the rest of the weekend, and Thank you all for your responses!.......Torre

I normally seem to be on the good side of YMMV, so it does exist.
The reasons for YMMV can be varied.
If a hobbyist shows up and is not hygienically up to par, YMMV can be expected. I can understand if a providers encounters this and is not gagging because she is DTing you. What if the hobbyist smokes and the provider does not. Should one expect some inspired and passionate DFK?
The same goes for the provider. If she is not clean as a whistle she will be penalized in the review score or text.  

At the same time, most providers will go above and beyond the call of duty if the hobbyist is visually pleasing, clean, and polite.

It is best to review the reviewer at the same time. If the reviewer seems to have a lot of not so great experiences I would give less weight to his review. At the same time if a reviewer has a lot of positive reviews and one bad one, I would give it more weight.
An occasional 5 or 6 will not necessarily keep me away from a provider. It may tell me to be at MY best when seeing her.

The provider must be professional above all else and live up to her menu to the best of her ability.
A little good acting is always helpful.    

TER and other review sites have given modern day hobbyists and providers great tools to research potential dates.  Over time, a body of reviews can give some sense of the provider as well as the review writer.  Outlier experiences are relatively easy to identify.   The very nature of intimate relations means that no two hobby experiences will be exactly the same in terms of activities, intensity or satisfaction.  That is why YMMV is a basic tenet of the hobby and the review system. Same is true for intimacy with a SO - sometimes its just quick maintenance sex, sometimes its that romantic adventure, and sometimes its hard, pounding, freaky sex.  YMMV  My experience tells me that if you treat a provider with dignity and respect, make her smile, and make sure that she gets the first nut, she will give you anything within her comfort zone (and sometimes much more).
YMMV

....if seen once or twice in a series of reviews, I would probably think the 2 people just didn't click, and there would probably be potential if I saw what I liked.....if it is a common theme throughout a series of reviews, then it is probably the provider....just my .02.

So if a $400/hr girl with GFE/PSE reviews gives you nothing but a no-lube hj and sends you on your way, you're going to be happy about it?  I think (hope) the original poster was looking for honest answers.

To answer the OPs question, it is not fair to put all of the YMMV blame on the client.  Just like any random two people that may meet, the chemistry between a provider and client is going to vary regardless of how well mannered or well groomed the client is.  While I guess it is possible to simply go through the exact same actions every time, you would need to become emotionally detached from the act, which will be evident to the more discerning client.

All of the best experiences I have had have been where I had have been when I have had good chemistry with the provider.  And since it is not reasonable to expect to have good chemistry with every provider, I am always prepared for YMMV sessions, knowing that when it varies in my favor, the experience far outweighs the times when it didn't.

I'm sorry, "Let's_Get_Real_Here"

You wanna be real, huh?

This is real. The time is booked and delivered. That's the promise.

YMMV is on both parties...to different degrees to total 100% (the way I see it)

May be it's 1% one way and 99 the other...

That's why a man does his homework and the lady should do hers too. Just because *he* has my donation doesn't mean I will see *him*...

It would be great if every date was phenomenal, great chemistry, conversation ... "fun had by all".

It takes an effort on both parties to make it happen.

If I don't know "you" and "you" don't communicate "your" desires or disappointments to me, then how do I know?

It's sometimes just saying, "I really like that" when in the moment. Or "Try that again" or "don't stop!"

Sometimes, what one wants is not necessarily available for a multitude of reasons.

Instead of feeling rejected (because it isn't happening the way you expected) communicate your thoughts then.

Sharing is caring and I (we ladies) do care!

It's not ALL you/him or ALL me/her...

Butt be prepared to handle the truth if you ask the question "why don't I?" (and maybe learn a lil somethin' about hygiene ya didn't know before)  

or

maybe ya can't believe everything you read...

My 2 euros
xxx
Jinni

...but you might not realize the extent of what your postulating a provider should do.

In the broadest sense, a provider should never step out of her comfort zone.

But then again, that might mean she doesn't step out her front door to come make (or not make) your day.

You may be right (in the customer sense and in the content of your post)

This a unique industry with quite separate rules, all varying from person to person, location (ie: travel vs. home) and understanding.

Communication is key.

xxx
Jinni

It's a tough topic.

Great responses tho

I learned a few things!

Have a safe trip and see ya around

Jinni
xxx

It may be a "business", but the bottom line is that we are dealing with human beings, and that should never be forgotten. The golden rule of treating everyone like you'd like to be treated goes a long way in our hobby.

My 2 cents.

Much as I hate to say it, since I'm personally a big fan of the romantic illusion, there is a business aspect to this hobby.  I work in a business that is trust-based, and functions largely on the concept of full-faith and disclosure, so while most things are just fine, there are some basic rules.  One of the keystone rules is that limitations on services, regardless of the reason, really are neither good nor bad as long as they are clearly understood by both the provider and the client in advance of the transaction.

I don't think that anyone here would argue that a provider is under any obligation at all to provide previously reviewed services to each and every client without limitation, but I do think that the limitations do need to be understood by all in advance.

Oh yeah, Sundawg........I just remember why exactly it is that I like you so much........(she says,.....with the "after-glow" giggles!)....

I am still down here in Ft Meyers.....My Mother lives here, and has some rather serious health issues, so I am here for a few days to take care if her/her home,.....all that good stuff!....A nurse will be coming back on Tuesday, and I will be headed back to Clearwater at that time.....Thank you so much for the responses.....seems that the topic turned out to be a rather "sensitive" one,.....but hey,....."It is what it is", eh?.......Have a great day, hope to chat again soon!    Torre

I've seen a number of ladies in this hobby; I've seen 2 I did virtually no research on ('cause I was green & stupid), and was quite disappointed both times.  But they delivered as promised, just didn't seem to care if I was there or not.  Only once have I seen a well-reviewed lady who I thought would click with me, and been quite disappointed with lack of chemistry, but she delivered a very full menu.  And I've been surprised the other way as well.  I saw a lady recently whose reviews made me wonder if we'd hit it off or not, plus she was at the younger limit of my acceptable age range; but she was hot looking, had a couple of my favorite physical features, and was available for a time slot when I really wanted to see somebody, so I went for it.  To my pleasant surprise, we hit it off terrifically, lots of joking & laughing, plus really terrific service of everything promised, and she was even better looking than I expected; we had a great time.
I add this latter tale mostly to illustrate one point no one else has discussed--if I have a great time with someone largely because of great chemistry (& of course great sex) and am giving them a rating quite a bit higher than their average (say a a 10 to someone with mostly 7's & 8's), I might throw in a YMMV in that review.  It's really just a subtle warning that, WE had a terrific time, don't be absolutely certain that YOU will as well.
Is that wrong?

...is on or expects her period, she should notify the hobbyist prior, so he can decide to either keep the appointment, re-book for a later date or cancel the appointment. That way perhaps, his review might not have stated YMMV along w/the disappointment.