“Always feel like it’s strange when men ask other men or discuss deposits with other men, those other men aren’t the ones providing the service. So I’m not sure why their opinions matter?”
LoL okay. So, when you’re looking for a place to get dinner do you read the restaurant owner’s own opinion of their business or do you look for the opinions of customers? What if you need a mechanic you can trust to work on your car? Do you take the shop’s word for it or would you rather hear from other people who’ve used their services? This is silly.
I guess this is a question of policy, not necessarily service quality, so let’s use your logic and go with whatever the providers say. I prefer to listen to the providers who respect and appreciate their clients. Not all, but a lot of them say they don’t do deposits because they know lots of clients have been scammed and they don’t want to put them in that position. They screen clients so they feel comfortable and invest some trust. Flaky clients absolutely do exist and I know I’ll never truly understand how frustrating that is for you, though I do have a good idea. That’s what screening and blacklists are for. I see good, lovely women with more class than you’ll ever be able to comprehend say they don’t do deposits and never will quite often, in ads and here on TER. Some of them are even in this thread.
“Most of the time all men have to do a show up. They don’t have to get ready they don’t have to get an incall they do not have to drive to an outcall.” (sic)
If the client neither has to get a place to host nor drive somewhere, then where is the appointment happening?? LoL!! I only do incall except in the rare case I’m traveling. Guess what? I have to DRIVE myself to the incall. There have been a few times I drove an hour or so across town in afternoon traffic and got ghosted. It sucks. (One of the ladies was rushed to surgery for appendicitis so she gets a pass)
No wonder it seems like you don’t much like your job, if you think men don’t spend any time getting ready; if that’s the caliber of clients you’re attracting. I spend about an hour and a half before each appointment making sure ALL my grooming and hygiene is absolutely on point. Have YOU ever tried to shave a ballsack with just two hands? It’s not fun.
When we the clients get NCNSd, it’s frustrating and a huge waste of our time, especially with an incall. Now, you have the added whammy of having lost money if a client NCNS. That is a VERY VERY legitimate gripe. I empathize with providers when that happens, especially when it happens to the good ones I know personally. I know it happens and I hate that for you. I just ask you to stop pretending your clients aren’t expending time and energy on a session that may or may not fall apart. They’re trusting YOU and taking risks to meet you. Everyone is taking risk here, of wasted time & effort, arrest, etc. You come off as ambivalent, if not disrespectful, towards your clients and their experience.
None of that matters half as much as the rest of your post, which is what I really take exception to. Why are you throwing shade at other providers who don’t run their business the way you do? I find it humorous that you mention “low class women” because the disrespect and contempt you are showing for other providers is as low class as it gets. I have been fortunate to meet a lot of awesome, caring, classy women in this arena. Some wanted deposits, others did not. One thing all the great ones have in common is they SUPPORT ALL the other SWs. They don’t throw shade at them like you. They want the other women to be safe and successful.
I have NEVER tried and will NEVER try to talk a provider into or out of any of her policies, deposit or otherwise. I don’t try to change their minds about that stuff, ever. I have paid deposits several times. I’ve paid the entire fee ahead of time. For me it all depends on the situation and the lady. If you want deposits, fine. It’s your business. I think I understand the reasons you want them.
I do object to you saying that providers who DON’T require a deposit are “low class”, or are not “real true providers” or that they “don’t respect their (own) time and effort”. That’s pure garbage and makes you look petty and uninformed. Many high quality providers do not require a deposit.
Your comments about providers who live in their incall only shows how little you know about this industry. You don’t have a static incall. Fine. That’s your decision. What’s the point of talking crap about providers who do? Women who live at their incall are very concerned with discretion and are typically low volume. House, apartment, or extended stay suite; they all have neighbors. They don’t need a parade of clients all day long. They definitely aren’t going to pull NCNSs where they live and risk an idiot client raising a ruckus outside the door attracting attention.
You’re on here trying to convince the newbies that contacting non-deposit providers is a big gamble and that said providers are somehow inferior to those who want a deposit. Save that junk for twitter, everyone here knows better.
There is no one right or wrong answer to the deposit dilemma. Deposit or no deposit; there are good, bad, and ugly providers in BOTH camps.
