I feel rather strongly about this in lieu of what happened to me yesterday. I met a provider at a seemingly safe upscale middle class neighborhood. I had seen this provider before so thought nothing of seeing her again. She does have other girls that share the quarters, no big deal. As we were finishing up in her bedroom, I felt a rumbling and heard a muffled "crack" through the wall. I finished up and got dressed and met the provider in the living room with her mates.
They told me this young, black guy, as he left, unexpectedly turned around abd kicked in the door. The entire frame was ruined as a dead bolt had been engaged just prior to that.
The provider I saw was white, but I knew she had two little girls that were mulatto, because she had shown me pictures. The other two girls were black. I told her I saw in her ad that she advertised "no black men". and she said because there was too much drama! She saw white men 30 years old and older, but black men 40 years and older.
I know there are a million reasons to see or NOT to see any ethnic group or any other group as far as that goes, but these girls are between 19 and 22 yeras old, and certainly could not defend themselves.
I am just saying I will leave the advertising, from now on, to the professionals that are the experts in their business! This is not an article for promoting racial discrimination, just pointing out there MAY be other issues than just what the surface reveals. Thanks. EOM.

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It is racist for a provider to acknowledge that blacks commit a disproportionate (based on the black percentage of the population) number of violent crimes or that some blacks are themselves racist?  Inviting a stranger into your hotel room can be a very scary and dangerous act...yes the Boston murderer was white...does that alter the fact that young black males account for a disproportion amount of the crime in this country?  If I am racist for pointing this out, then so is our government from where these figures come.  Affirmative Action laws and programs were instituted to remedy the results of years of racism.  Affirmative Action would not have been instituted if society had not PERCEIVED a difference in the economic, and yes, social behavior of blacks and non-blacks, and then rightfully acted on it.   Acknowledging a problem existing in a community, such as young blacks in Chicago killing each other, is not a racist act.  Nor is it a racist act for an individual to take steps to heighten his or her safety in light of a real or a perceived threat.  That right of self protection is available to hookers as well as hobbyists.  How many of us would venture down to S Halstead and W 77th in Chicago to visit a provider?   Not me...it's called self preservation not racism.

that kicked the door in was white, would we be having this conversation?
Not sure of the purpose of this post.

when seeing white clients since white men are the ones who tend to do mass killings. I mean, young black men killing EACH OTHER over a personal altercation (or whatever), I can understand that. I can't understand the mindset of people who go out and kill TONS of people they don't even know and who didn't even do anything personal to them. I mean, that's the type of crazy (mentally deranged) you should fear. So yep, I better avoid white clients, b/c I'm shaking in my boots as a result of some of them who've proven how to take insanity to the extreme.

Sounds stupid, right? Instead I won't generalize white men or any race of clients I see. They're all fabulous no matter what others in their race may have done. But you, you can generalize and live in fear, if you want, though I hoped to demonstrate generalizing is ignorant with my OP about the Boston killer and serial killers (like the generalization above). It appears I haven't made an impact and it's ok, but understand that when you're generalizing, studies have shown that crimes are typically perpetuated within one's own race and murder is typically done within one's family or community so you really should be in fear of your neighbors and not the black boys killing EACH OTHER.

Anyway, happy generalizing to your heart's content!!

"Statistically, murderers are more likely to kill family members and intimate partners than strangers. But while men from all backgrounds kill their spouses, affluent white men are disproportionately represented in the ranks of our most infamous mass murderers. In other words, the less privileged you are, the less likely you are to take your violence outside of your family and your community."

http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-and-politics/details/2012-07-why-most-mass-murderers-are-privileged-white-men

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Generalizing is something we all do every day.   We generalize about people so we know how to interact with them.  When I see a provider...and no jlorens my taste exceeds the $100 variety...I generalize that she is going to be receptive to my sexual advances because every other provider I've seen has. When I drive by a church I generalize that the members are religious.  Generalization is not bad if it is based on fact.  I generalize that jihadists want to kill me.  The issue is how the generalization influences our behavior.  Do I think seeing providers off BP with no website or reviews puts me in more danager than seeing a well reviewed provider.  You bet I do and I feel that way because of a generalization and not a personal experience.  My point is simple, if a provider chooses not to see blacks, and that decision is based on either some unfortunate personal expierence or a not unreasonable generalization, who are we to find fault with that?

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let a poor experience ruin the industry as a whole for you. Many reputable and high-end providers will see gentlemen of varying races provided they are respectful and obey boundaries. I am a young woman and don't discriminate based on race but choose my suitors carefully. Be careful out there!

Can someone please tell me what's the point of this guys rant?? Are you saying providers shouldn't see Blacks? Even though the provider says she'll see the over 40 blacks...(doesn't sound like she has a problem with blacks)...
And as far as providers not wanting to see "black thugs", heck I'm with them all day!!! I too have issues with "black thugs". Whenever I come in contact with a group of them I tend to get a Lil worried myself, wondering if I'm gonna have an altercation.... The bad thing is I'm a black man!!! Not the computer typing, pocket protector, thick eye glasses black man either.. As a matter of fact I grew up in the black thug community (many many moons ago) and know exactly how they think...that's why I go the extra mile to avoid being classified as a "black thug"... So I can't say I have any issues with providers who don't wanna see them..(it's actually a wise choice to avoid those few dollars), the only down fall is, the mature respectable black men get a bad wrap because of those few idiots.... But hey what can I say, it comes with the life.  
In addition to, I personally wouldn't want to partake in any engagements with any providers who just can't see past color because I doubt it's gonna truly be an enjoyable experience... Don't get me wrong, I've seen a lot of super sexy providers ads that has the no AA's that I really wanted to spend a Lil extra to see..... (Even got a few laughs at the bad experience some of them gave, from what I've read)... But hey, for the ten that won't, two others will!!!  
Ok, enough ranting.... For the "possible" racist that started the thread..... Hey man, please don't add anymore roadblocks to my road of fun, I'm already in damage control mode for the thugs!!!!

And......Hurtit4u....don't be hating on "computer typing, pocket protector, thick eye glasses black men!" The Urkel's out there need sum luving too!

The purpose of the post was to...... Provoke.  
I must say I am overwhelmed with the forethought and creativity expressed by my fellow man!

This post is the BLAH, BLAH, BLAH post...in other words, you bring drama to the board without providing any of value to the board. I really think TER should open a DRAMA board up and let the DRAMA QUEENS post in there: the board for people who like to stir the pot without providing any value to the board!

-SF-

think that this situation was made to be a racial one, but its more of a lack of intelligent decision making.  Pay attention to the bigger picture instead of  the easy racial scapegoat. This is an Economic situation not a racial one. The OP's personal beliefs are clouding his judgement

 
1) You are seeing providers that are 19-23. Duh!! Think about the lack of life experience and ability to discern who to associate with and who to avoid that someone in that age range would have. Nothing to do with race, just mindset. Do you think a 19 year old can screen better than a woman with life experience? {sidebar 19 is too young, IMO}
2). If you are seeing a girl, I cannot call a 19year old a woman, that has 2 kids ( regardless of what race the father is) you have to acknowledge her decision making. And i mention that again to highlight the ability to make good decisions.
3) You are seeing a girl that is sharing a place with 2 other people. This is simple math. In an average date you have a 50/50 chance that the person you are seeing is good or bad. Plus you said you have seen her so you felt safe. But she has 2 other people which change the percentages of your dream going well. More people = more POTENTIAL of drama.
4) I HATE to admit this. it comes down to economics. Generally a more costly date yields less drama. Higher rates = more exclusivity. Lower rates=more variation and less control of clientele. A thug (white, latin, asian or black) is not going to see a woman that charges $$$$+. You also are not likely to find a high end lady sharing a place with 2 others ladies.  Most guys see  who they can afford and I don't think there is anything wrong with BP ladies, You just have to be able & willing to put in more work and determine & weigh out the risks of seeing a more cost effective lady.  You may more to be lazy in your research because of the implied lack of drama and exclusivity. If you opt to pay less, you can still dream safe, you just have to weigh out the risks, think with your big head and don't let your wallet dictate your safety

Well said, thank you, you are 100% spot on. That is EXACTLY what happened. Are you available Thursdays for psychoanalysis ? I apologize for being insensitive and stupid.

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...name emblazoned across her chest??  I swear to god, some of you guys are so freaking sheltered, it's embarassing... She is not ALLOWED to see other young black dudes because her "daddy" doesn't want to lose her to another pimp!  Who the HECK did you think "Macknificent" was... her favorite band?? Lol.

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and I could give a care less. The generalization was dumb, to be frank, and that was the point. So it doesn't bother me if she doesn't want to see blacks, and if it's due to having a black pimp or whatever reason, she can feel free not to see blacks. I just think sweeping generalizations are silly, which is what I tried to demonstrate with my sweeping generalization of white males.

and that's all folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've had so many attempt to recruit me via phone call and text message that I have lost count! However, to say that only  old school style pimps exploit women in this business... THAT would be a GENERALIZATION. Certainly there can be exploitive Asian massage parlor owners, legal Nevada brothel owners, even rougue female agency owners etc.  

HOWEVER, all semantics aside, people should be aware that lots of women in this business do in fact travel around the country with a few other woman who are all under the same "managment."  When older women say "no black men" in their ads it is often because they were raised in the deep south etc... but when younger woman say "no black men" it is often because, as I stated below, their "Daddy" doesn't want them booking with competing pimps who might try to lure them away!  If you guys don't care that you are sessioning with girls who are possibly being physically and/or emotionally abused and who are DEFINATELY giving 100% of the money you pay them directly to their P... well then carry on.. as you were...

I figured I would point out this quote before anyone posted, "How DARE you assume her pimp is abusing her?!?! Blah, blah..."

on pimps and only pimps. Then your valuable pimp message won't get lost among a thread focused on *generalizing*, not pimps.

Thank you for your response. While reading all these I had many thoughts go through my head about how to respond ... You did it for me. I have my age limits but other than that as long as they are respectful gentlemen, race is not a factor.  Some providers also chose to avoid based on personal experience or what they hear. To each there own!

Maybe one of the reasons is the "size factor" ouch hehe o.O ... Now I'm generalizing lol.