Florida

OMFG....I almost forgot the most important point.,,,
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Lilly....based on activity & performance details....don't price at yugo rates!  I don't want to speak for all but, there is a certain MINIMUM that when you go below it...pre-desposes a Craigs List value (or lack thereof)expectation, which may in fact NOT be warranted.  Now I'm done....back to Poker Stars to pay for my next outing...you think I'm kidding...I'm at table with a buch of slant eyes from taiwan...wish me luck gals,,,,lol!

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I read all your replies to that posting.  I posted this here, because yesterday is gone and I want this seen and commented on.  Sorry, didn't see that post yesterday.

I do believe there IS something WRONG with the reviews rating system!  If the rules are right about a point for each thing she offers.  Then why are my points so low???  I offer everything and what is not listed, in my services, I have pretty much done.  I have requested those other services be added in a problem report, but they have not changed my profile.  Funny though, in my reviews it does say I did those unlisted services that are in profiles.  If I am offering and doing everything, then why are my ratings so low? Also,  I have viewed many other reviews of other providers and seen that they get 9's and 10's, but offer or do little compared to me. Why are theirs so high?  So tell me, is something wrong with this??

Shlomo Shlong Dong1485 reads

I like the review where you stuck the vibrator up the guy's ass until the batteries ran out !!!!  ;-)

I think you are looking at this thw wrong way.  I am the one that posted yesterday as to what others are "looking" to give a ten.  Not what the rules are.  My guess as to why your rating are lower is the way that you perform these things. Just because you do anal or BBBJ doesnt mean you automatically get the extra point. I dont want to say too much since we have never met, but I would ask this question to those you have been with as to why your scores are not what you desire

I realize this has already been touched on, however I will reiterate it again. The review structure, concerning performance, has been set up using the tier method. Which means, any and all providers are eligible to receive a 7. However, the provider can earn additional extra credit points, if you will, by offering further services...ie: BBBJ, Greek, DFK and Bi. Each of these additional services makes her 'eligible' for an extra credit point. Notice I used the word eligible. Although, the service is offered, it doesn't mean she automatically receives the point.  If that were the case, I would have 10's across the board...because I offer all of those additional services on my menu. Keep in mind, even if the gentleman doesn't partake in all of those services, those services are still available to him. Meaning, if I accompanied a gentleman and we had a DFK session ONLY....I would still be eligible for a 10 because I do offer them.

I apologize if this is a bad example, but I'm hungry...so, I'm thinking of food. ;-) I frequent the Oceanaire restaurant nearby and enjoy indulging in their Jumbo Lumpmeat Crab Cake, 'Alaskan' Red King Crabs, Sour Cream & Onion Mashed Potatoes, Steamed Asparagus with Hollandaise...topped off with a slice of their Divine Chocolate cake. Yummy, right! Yeah well, expect to pay the price for this delicacy. Bring along a minimum of 200 for a party of 2 (pending drinks). What does Paris rate them...a 10! Now, let's run down the road to Red Lobster. At Red Lobster, I can order pan-seared Crab Cakes, 'North Pacific' King Crab Legs, Asparagus, Creamy Langostino Lobster Mashed Potatoes and their Chocolate Wave for dessert. Additionally, you can walk out of there, for a party of 2, for under 100. Notice they both offer each of the dishes that I seek. Paris rates Red Lobster a 5! They both offer the same things on the menu that I'm seeking, so why you ask? Let me break it down for you. They are:

*Prepared differently
*Technique is different
*Taste differently
*The presentation is different
*The servers and staff members demeanor and attitude is different
*The ambiance- you guessed it, different

You see, although both places have the same menu...it doesn't place them in the same category. Oceanaire is a fine dining establishment where their main goal is for you to have a great dining experience. Red Lobster on the other hand, is more like a family dining establishment...not really focusing on your experience but rather calculating when your table will be available for their next guest. With that being said, do you think that it would be fair, to future consumers, to rate both restaurants equally because they offer similar dishes?


À la prochaine,
Paris Bouvier



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That IS what I am NOT understanding.  I DO offer almost everything - YES!  But, I pride myself on always having a fun, sexy, delightful and enjoyable attitude.  Always giving a fantastic, memorable experience (except I admit when someone shows up smelling bad, looking like something my dog dragged in, or is a bit too rude or rough in the way the treat me or touch me) filled with relaxing laughter, sexy fun and real reactions to pleasure.  I don't get complaints, I get compliments!  Time with me is a good experience had by all.  I also don't charge high for many reasons, which is too detailed to explain here, but will some other time.  (I have a date on the way)I will say this though, my reasons for working as an escort are not ONLY money related.  When those times arise when I don't think I can be all that for my clients, for whatever reason, I take that day off!  I don't put my clients through a possible bad session, if I am not up to par!  It's their money that is being spent, so they deserve a REAL good time, no excuses!  That's how I feel and that's how I am!  I give the best of me when I work, not any reason to be getting such low ratings!  I DO have a good deal of regulars who keep coming back for that very reason.  Unfortunately, not all are into posting reviews, for their own personal reasons.  I respect all my clients who show me respect, so I will NOT push for reviews.  But I wish if they were going to review me, they would review me for me, NOT comparing me to another when they do!!  Also, I have good reason to believe some ratings are changed before they are posted!  I have a regular who swears and I have my own reasons for believing him, that he rated me higher than what I got and even he don't have any idea what is going on!  Why it was changed!  And he did get EVERYTHING I offer, loved it, and keeps coming back for more of it!!  So......?

Shlomo Shlong Dong1249 reads

Your BEST review  BY FAR is when you stuck a rubber dick up a guy's ass and the rubber dick died !!!!!  ;-)   ;-)  ;-)

Oy Vey --  You can't make this shit up !!!

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Do you have a problem with what I did in my session with my sub?  Not man/woman enough to say it without hiding behind an alias?  I make a very awesome Mistress.  Domination is apparently a good role for me.  I did it very well and my sub was very pleased.  Because he was a good sub and detailed his session out in a great review for his Mistress, you take it upon yourself to act like the immature, unknowledgeable idiot you obviously are and make a big joke about it?  You obviously don't know anything about the Dom/sub lifestyle or your a chicken sub wannabe wishing it was your ass that got the "rubber dick" stuck up it!  WANT A SPANKING NOW or LATER???!!  oops! I think you just got one!!

LMAO!!!

I can't say it any better.  Its not about the acts, its the experience.  If you are doing all you say and doing it with energy, class and style, your reviews would be higher.  My reviews have never been altered.

Provide ther service AND the experience, and the top reviews will follow.

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It strikes me as amazing!!  Here all of you are so ready and willing to point out maybe the provider (me) is not performing the service up to par.  Maybe she was not that good or showed little interest, etc...  Ummm, did any of you even bother to read my reviews, before writing your opinions as to why my ratings were so low?  All my reviews clearly state how I did in the performance category.  The problem is my ratings don't match what was written in the review's details and with what services I offer or did!  If I wanted the opinions of every so and so who just had one, I wouldn't have bothered with this post!  I would have just done a survey!  I had hoped my reviews would be read and then they would be compared to my ratings and I would get someone's "experienced" POV answer based on what they saw.  Not BS that has nothing to do with my situation! I have probably more experience in the art of pleasuring then you have in your little finger!! Experience, what is provided and the quality of my services is NOT the problem!! Please read.......before speaking......  Thank you!



You post a thread, asking for assistance. We try to help you, by giving you examples and you rebuke us because it's not what you want to hear?

It was my understanding that when you post a thread on a discussion board, you're asking for every so and so, as you put it, to reply. If there is anyone here that is in another party not affiliated with so and so, please raise your hand or send me a PM. I'm interested in joining your 'experienced' club! I feel that I have all the credentials and prerequisites to be a great ASSet to you! Until then, I will stand my ground that it isn't ALL about the act, but more so the 'EXPERIENCE'!

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Seems like people here just like to find something to give a newbie a hard time about!  Well, go ahead!! I am not one to back down.  I respect myself too much to let anyone make me sound or appear bad and not say anything!  SO, one last thing then I am done! I am not saying I don't want "any", I just want everyone who does want to say things to please view my reviews and see everything.  Not just comment without seeing why I wrote this post in the first place!  Not because I had low ratings!!  Big Deal!!  It's because the ratings are NOT matching the written review and I am wondering why???  OK? Bed is calling me so good night all!

Intelligent and well written as usual ;-)

Lilly, Paris wasn't dissing you or your performance, just making an observation. After reading your reviews and then looking at the other reviews written by the hobbyests that have reviewed you, my suggestion is if you want better numbers that better reflect your services, then you might want to market yourself to a higher caliber hobbyests with more review experience. I'm not going to get into specifics here on some things you might want to change on your profile and where you are marketing yourself, but I will be happy to speak with you via Pm if you have access, or e-mail. For the most part, what was written in the Juicy Details about you was positive so my guess is is  more about WHO you are seeing that has reviewed you, rather than what services you are offering.

And for the record, posting here that you have more talent in your little finger than most of us, isn't the way to go here...IMHO.

You last review was your best to date so maybe things will start to get better for you :-)

Steph

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I was not going to reply, but you seem to be frustrated with the beat-around-the bush-type answers, so I will post the specifics of your reviews that explain the performance numbers.  I won't address looks as that is completely in the eye of the beholder(disclaimer, some guys are overly visual and it does affect their performance numbers).

You mentioned that your read the entire thread and posted your reply to the OP here because you wanted a response.  If you read ALL the responses you must have gotten a good idea that most often it is NOT about the menu that gets a 10, it is the ENTIRE experience and something that stands out and makes a man smile days later.

I am going to start with your oldest review and work to your newest.

Your first review was rated a "5" like it or not EVERYTHING matters and gentleman will look at EVERYTHING when doing the review.  Some will rate lower because of just ONE little thing.

Comments in your first review by the gentleman. "setting is a mobile home park" also "Arrived at incall trailer, kinda messy but she said she had just moved in" This is enough for me to turn and leave he decided to stay and it affected his review!  Your were probably not getting a good score before it started...and this very fist comment in his review states that "Figured for $80 for half an hour couldn't go wrong. Pictures had me wondering should I stay home or go. Little head won out."

Comments on your second review which the performance rating was "6".  This review uses things like great BBBJ and Super performance in other reviews, but no performance reviews higher than an 8.  He just does not give them...he probably has avery high standard and the model looks in his eyes will also affect the performance score IF he ever gives a 10.

Comments on your third review performance rating was "6" "we rolled over to mish position until i was close to popping and the off came the cover and a little more bbbj until she wanted me to pop all over breasts which i did." often times the finish is the ultimate thrill....if you asked for it in a different place than he had in mind...it may drop your score as it affected his fantasy.  This gentleman only has two reviews, in his other review he states the lady put in some porn to start and he was really into that.  She also gave an incredible BBBJ and it finished first cup that way in a very short time but worth it.  She got a "9".  

Comments on your forth review in which you got a "7".  There is nothing you can do with this kind of review..it is by a gentleman that is a bargain hunter.  His reviews are all in the 6-8 range.  His last comment states this "Nice lady. Somewhat older but very pleasant company. Didn't have to spend much."  This speaks towards the clientele' you are attracting with your price point.

The last review was YOUR shot at a 10 and I think the little things may have cost you!  you recieved a "9". You let him orgasm too soon....and it ended cecause the batteries went dead in your toy.  Ya need to have a strap-on or extra batteries to get that 10! OH so close...and the numbers get better as time goes on for you...experience matters too, not only in the sheets but as a lady in the hobby!

Definately things are getting better for you!  Your score were higher when you did outcall or met them at a hotel.  Some guys don't like a personal residence no matter where it is and some don't mind at all so YMMV comes into play as well with the environment, as well as, the score on numbers.

Thoughts in review...update your TER profile to a 1 hour rate and get rid of the 30 minute only view point, it will help you get better clientele'.  Stick to a nice incall..if it means a high rate to cover expenses...do it, the higher scores will be reflect the change.  Be prepared for the session!  can't let the little things affect the outcome.  Also let the man choose where he wants to orgasm, by asking him or giving him options.  That is as long as they fit YOUR comfort zone!  Sometimes those can cost a 10, but that should NOT make you go outside your comfort zone!

Good luck, I hope this helps in your quest for 10's and explains why sometimes they just aren't in the numbers for some guys!

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What I'm seeing that LILLY44 is asking is that is see has regulars and repeats, guys that compliment her, she KNOWS her heart is in her work, and she believes she is eligible for higher ratings... why aren't her posted rating better?

Am I right LILLY44? (for the record we don't know each other)

Fellow Floridians, why is that a hard concept to understand, that this leaves the lady wondering? It's a legit question I believe.

Here comes caps for emphasis: SHE IS ASKING IF ANYONE EXPERIENCED AND IN THE KNOW COULD OFFER SOME HELPFUL INSIGHT OR EXPLANATION.

A "pat" answer where you in essence tell her "well honey if they give ya 5's they don't like ya, or ya ain't no good" is a load of crap.

Do you think a lousy provider (oh, there are so many out there, and in my experience they KNOW they are lousy, 'cuz they don't give a shit) would come on this board, post a pic and ask this question?

I read all the posts where "the community" is patting itself on the back by being filled with hobbyists and providers that respect each other while the rest of society looks at us as low class, immoral or dirty. How 'bout showing that kind of respect here to LILLY44?

While some of the answers were not fully detailed and may have bordered on juvenile amusement the fact is the question was asked and then answered.  Three of the people answering focused on the difference between being experienced and how to fulfill an experience.

This world we create and play in is based upon experiences, atmosphere, attitude and ultimately the perceived pleasure of the other.  Yes, we may all at some point offer the same experiences we do not all weave the same experience.

It does not matter how much experience we have in life it matters how we have learned to craft our skill.  Take some time to look past the numbers of those you feel are giving the same and look at how they market themselves, present themselves on different sites and how they have built themselves up to where they are.  Focus instead on "how can I improve myself, my business, my etc, etc."  

We all start out green no matter how much experience we have.  We are all in the same world and no one person is better than another yet some have learned to hone in on their strengths, skills and desires better than others.

Paris, Here ya go and Maturegfe have given you tips and an offer to help.  I am also more than happy to point you in a direction that may help you achieve the results you seek.

Best of luck.

Lilly,

It seems as if you and others might have perceived my posts as slamming you, for some reason. When in fact, my response wasn't to slam you...but to assist you in viewing the 'big picture'. I'm certainly not saying that you're a lousy provider or low-class. What I was attempting to portray in my post to you is that there are various factors, that come into play, that WILL effect the scores that a gentleman gives you. My example spoke of a fine dining establishment vs. a family style establishment. The comparison doesn't necessarily have to be from one extreme to the other, I was just attempting to get my point across by using opposite ends of the spectrum. The exact same comparison can be used by evaluating two establishments within the same price range and with similar menu items. The bottom line is this.... when gentlemen rate you, by posting a review, they are looking at the entire date as a whole...not one or even two particular aspects, but rather the date in it's entirety.

Maybe it's difficult for you and others to relate my restaurant scenario to the actual question. So, I will try to explain it in terms that actually relate to the hobby.

1. If incall they will evaluate your pad and the ambiance- was it clean? What was the ambiance like- were there candles lit, soft music playing in the background, clean bedding and towels etc.? The location of your incall- Is it in a safe neighborhood? Is the location disceet and easy to find?

2. Were you prepared- Were you on time? Did the gentleman have to wait outside for you to finish up? Did you have various condoms on hand? Was there lubricant provided? Do you have extra batteries for those toys? ;-)

3. Attitude- Were you friendly, welcoming and overall happy to be in their presence? Did you make them feel as if your time with them is rushed? Did you make them feel as if you were long lost lovers, who finally met again?

4. Presentation of yourself- Are you well manicured and take extra special care with your hygiene? If incall, did you greet them at the door in lingerie or something sexy? Or did you greet them in your workout clothes or street clothes? Is your hair and makeup flawless? Did you greet them with a smile and hug?

5. Technique- Everyone has their own style and knows their comfort level. Examples: Kissing- are you sensual, slowly tracing their lips and tongues dancing in harmony? OR are your tongues battling one another in combat? BBBJ- are you rushed, trying to get him off as soon as possible? OR are you spending extra time on the boys and his sweet spot...licking his shaft like a lollipop, making love and savoring his cock til he's in ecstasy...? You get the picture..... My motto is, "Do everything in Excellence...and to Go above and beyond...exceeding their expectations!"

Nobody here could possibly give you the exact reasons for your lower scores, as we weren't there and we don't know the entire situation. Only you and the gentleman that you were with could possibly evaluate the situation as a whole, to determine the areas that might need improvement.

It is GOOD to read other reviews...to find out what they are doing to obtain higher scores, therefore giving you ideas that you could possibly incorporate into your dates. However, it is very difficult, actually impossible, to compare your sessions with theirs and determine who does what better...or the chemistry that may or may not have formed between the two parties involved. Don't spend your time and energy comparing yourself with other providers...instead take bits and pieces, incorporate it into your sessions and see what happens. Be true to yourself!

Everyone seem to have their own rating system and you have to know how to get those "extra" points.

Should be clear cut but it's not.

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First thing I want to point out - I live in an almost 3 star hotel!  Its kept clean and quite nice all the time!  I am very conscientious of my appearance, cleanliness, smell, looks and clothing is always sexy.  Take a look at my photos.  That is how I am daily, even before I started back to this line of work 10 months ago, unless I am off and just having a bad day.  I don't work then!! I am very much into the making the client feel like he is one of a million and I do it well because I am a strong believer in this being more about the client, what he is needed and not about "can I make some quick money".  For anyone money is great, but that is NOT why I am doing this line of work.  I have more desire in me to be there for men who are in need of a lady like me for what ever the various reasons they have.  Without ladies like me, who knows where some of these men might end up turning to when the need for comforting arms, a warm body, a much needed stress/pressure relief, a deep desiring fantasy that they want to fulfill.  They have to worry about whether they go to someone real, safe, clean, trustworthy, not LE and if she is going to give him what he is needing and not just rush him through with no feeling like an assembly line...Next?....I give them all they are seeking and why....?  Because for me: I feel good helping someone out, I have a big heart, I am real/genuine, it gives me great pleasure to be able to please (no matter what role I may be in - equal or dom) I enjoy sex a lot, and I, in most cases, end up with a new friend, someone I usually see again and a great experience to put in my memory book ( brain).  As far as me saying "I have more experience in the art of pleasuring then most have in their little finger" is what I said!  Big difference from what you said anyway.  meaning I was saying experience in pleasuring - not more talent!!  I was an escort for over 4 years in my early 20's, I have been single almost all my life, (having only been married and in any real relationships that mattered a total of years added up 4.-  4 years out of my life with anyone serious) so I do admit, being single, I have also been an active swinger for years.  I have experienced, enjoyed, and learned a lot from my many sexual escapades.  More than most women would who were married to the same man for years.  I also really enjoy sex and all the exciting parts that come along with having great sex. I hope now you will have a better understanding of me.  I am not looking for a fight here.  Just a realistic answer to why.  But thank you all.  Funny thing... while I was writing all these posts and examining the question and your input, an amazing thing came to me and I think I ended up with the answer I was searching for.  I figured it out and I am satisfied with the answer.  Thank you all, especially the one I wrote back a long pm to tonight.  It was during the writing of that pm that I realized I had the answer.  Have a good night all.  :)

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This is an interesting thread on number of levels.

First, To Lilly, the comments from Paris and Holly are well intentioned.  These are not malicious, spiteful women.  Sometimes the tone of e-mail is hard to discern but, I believe you would find unanimous consensus that these two womem (as well as many others) is that the input is meant to be constructive.

Second, regarding Lilly;s numbers.  I have read the reviews and would tend to agree with her that the her performance numbers seem to be under-reported given the response/descriptions of her multiple reviewers.

Disclaimer, I've never seen this woman and probably won't given the geography involved.  

My comment, not to be white knight, is that this is a woman who is a new contributor who is not a fraud, posts her real picture and has multiple reviews.  I think she should be given the benefit of the doubt, irrespective of if she is "your type or not".

Just my opinion...and hopefully a word of encouragement to Lilly...hang in there.  And a constructive comment....get to know Paris, Holly and other women on our board...they are generous people.   I sense you are someone who wants to fit it...and you will....the FL board is actually very accepting.

Wow....did I say that...I must be getting mellow in my old age!

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Lilly....based on activity & performance details....don't price at yugo rates!  I don't want to speak for all but, there is a certain MINIMUM that when you go below it...pre-desposes a Craigs List value (or lack thereof)expectation, which may in fact NOT be warranted.  Now I'm done....back to Poker Stars to pay for my next outing...you think I'm kidding...I'm at table with a buch of slant eyes from taiwan...wish me luck gals,,,,lol!

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I hate waking up in the middle of night.  It always messes up my routine and I end up unable to sleep again and ready for bed when morning comes.  Grrrr... LOL  

Anyway the reason for this post.  fish, that was well said and thank you.  Plus I am a smart and big enough person to admit I should not have gotten as so worked up when the community (as I heard everyone in the group here are referred as) was not getting what I was after and were posting there views, opinions and advice.  I know you all meant well and did say some really good things that I am taking in and thinking about now.  So, I apologize for my frustrated responses to your posts and thank you all for taking the time out to try to help.

That is all of you EXCEPT you - Shlomo Shlong Dong!!  You, whoever you are, really are nothing but a chicken who hid behind a alias and thinking you would start some trouble by tormenting me over what I did in a session for a paying client!  Well as you can see, I didn't cower away ashamed or embarrassed. I stayed and stood up for myself.  I was providing a special service for my client who was getting some of his fantasy he had been dreaming of fulfilled.  We were in a special type of session that I have to say was lots of fun and a nice getaway from doing the same things everyday for all of you!  I happen to like and encourage variety and creativity/imagination use in the bedroom.  

IT WAS WRONG OF YOU TO TAKE A PART OF HIS WONDERFULLY WRITTEN AND DETAILED REVIEW, WHICH WAS A DETAILED ACCOUNT OF THINGS THAT HE WANTED AND GOT IN PAID SESSION, AND USE IT AS THE SUBJECT OF YOUR SICK JOKE AGAINST ME!!!

what in the hell gives you the right to use someone else's intimate details of their session in such a childish inconsiderate manner!!  A suggestion for you!!  GROW UP & QUIT HIDING  BEHIND AN ALIAS!!  ALL YOU ARE REALLY DOING IS  MAKING A GENUINE ASS OUT OF YOURSELF!!

Guess what!! Now I have a reason to really laugh in regards to this post!  LMAO - LOOK AT THE BIG ASS!!

Thanks I needed that!!

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