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Given all that's gone down lately I decided I needed to take a really close look at my screening requirements and that ultimately - I need to be more stringent. I've taken some time today to re-work, re-write my "connect" page. I'd love the opinions from some of the top notch guys on this board to see if I'm going overboard. I want to work more carefully but I don't want to turn anyone off by sounding like an uptight b*tch either. Take a look and let me know what you think. I'm expecting that other ladies will soon be following suit so this is good feedback for them as well.

ps. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to posted a url to my site on the Florida Regional board so just click on my name link above and follow the ad links through to my website.

xo Love Laney

I'm probably not what you would consider "top-notch" but I'll give you my opinion any way - and you know what they say about opinions so take it for what it's worth.

I would take one look at the screening requirements and pass. 4 Okays on P411 with multiple verifications does strike me as a bit overboard since I don't hobby all that much. I have three myself but have only seen each lady once so I am like WAY under your requirements and will probably never get there.

If the other ladies follow as you say that'll probably be the incentive I finally need to quit the hobby altogether.

Posted By: LoveLaneysRedLightShow
Given all that's gone down lately I decided I needed to take a really close look at my screening requirements and that ultimately - I need to be more stringent. I've taken some time today to re-work, re-write my "connect" page. I'd love the opinions from some of the top notch guys on this board to see if I'm going overboard. I want to work more carefully but I don't want to turn anyone off by sounding like an uptight b*tch either. Take a look and let me know what you think. I'm expecting that other ladies will soon be following suit so this is good feedback for them as well.

ps. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to posted a url to my site on the Florida Regional board so just click on my name link above and follow the ad links through to my website.

xo Love Laney

I have to agree, that I think it seems a bit stringent, however, I think only you can be the arbitrator of that.  If you still get the flow of requests you need to make the money you want, then it is the right level.

I think you have given plenty of outs, I do not have the P411 references, but only because I haven't asked for them.  I could pass any of your other background items.  My problem will be that I don't often have the convenience of scheduling ahead of time.  But, again, this is about you finding the sweet spot for bringing in the business.  If you stick to this, you should find out fairly quickly if it will work.  

If you look at your work volume now, what percentage of business is from new customers, and of them, can you gauge what their level of hobbying is?  I think you can determine right there the impact.  If most of your business is repeats, then this should work well for you to fill in gaps.

you do give some options.  I do understand your concern and have no problem with it.  As with any provider, if I feel she is asking too much, I will pass on her.  With you, for me, since I have over 40 DC refs, over 20 P411 OK's, and over 20 WL refs here, your requirements would not be a problem.  However, for many guys, it might be a problem, esp for the newer guys.  You will have to see how your stricter screening demands affect your business, hopefully not a lot, but only time will tell.

Swim

Not exactly a "top notch" guy...but I have opinions nonetheless.

Whatever your screening procedure is...there is no opinion that matters more than yours.
You can ask anything and some people will tell you that's cool..and others will tell you you're totally wrong. So what?
Who's life are you living? Yours or theirs?
One universal truth of life is that you CAN NOT make everyone happy. Trying to will only satisfy some and make you a crazy person.
The ones who have such strong opinions....is it THEIR ass that will wind up arrested with a mugshot on the internet? I think not.

I know at least two gals who make it simple. You tell them exactly who you are...real name...real everything...and they verify every single detail...or you just won't see them. Easy.
Do they get grief from whiny boys who feel entitled? Of course. Are they still in business and making what they need to? Absolutely.
What works for some may not work for all.

At the end of the day, you just have to do what makes you comfortable. There will always be some who don't like it. Fuck 'em. Or rather......don't. lol.

As a side note....you can post a url to your site on every post you make. It is not only allowed, it is "encouraged" via the TER guidelines.

Just sayin'
DD




Here's the thing. I don't even necessarily mind giving them the information they ask for. It's just that when they start laying out stringent verification requirements like 4 provider OK's with multiple verifications on P411 they remind me of all the daily bullshit I deal with every day at work and my dick quickly loses interest.

So you don't like stringent requirements. Maybe you see it as hoops to jump through? Something you *have* to do...not unlike the bullshit in your daily life?
Yeah....life is stressful and no one is a big fan of bullshit in any form. True dat (that's as urban as I get..lol)

There's just one little thing you seem to be forgetting...or ignoring.
What these ladies do is illegal. That means against the fucking law. Their source of income is more stressful than any fucking thing you'll EVER experience at work.
Yet....you want some gorgeous angel to have the cock of a complete stranger in her mouth within 15 minutes of meeting you. Just because you're cool...and stressed...and work is a bitch...and your wife doesn't understand you....yadda yadda fucking yadda.

I'm guessing you don't go to work every day wondering if you'll wind up in jail that night with your picture plastered on the internet.
Now how about you tell us all about your stress and bullshit that you have to deal with?

Weak.

Just sayin'
DD

I see dilomacy is not one of your strong points either, DD ........I Like that in you!!
I  know that I am declining calls left and right; If I don't know you - know who you are - recognize the handle, or you haven't seen someone that I know is legit and is willing to verify you - I'm not seeing you. Since I began doing this, here is my own experience - The true hobbyists not only don't mind, but actually seem to appreciate the added precaution - we all want to stay safe. The only gentlemen that do not like the added `precaution are those that cannot be verified to begin with and I simply tell them to start looking for a companion that states she is "Newbie-friendly". Some are  willing to take the risk ..... I'm just not one of them!
Have a great day!
Kisses,
Torre

Posted By: DirtyDaego
So you don't like stringent requirements. Maybe you see it as hoops to jump through? Something you *have* to do...not unlike the bullshit in your daily life?
Yeah....life is stressful and no one is a big fan of bullshit in any form. True dat (that's as urban as I get..lol)

There's just one little thing you seem to be forgetting...or ignoring.
What these ladies do is illegal. That means against the fucking law. Their source of income is more stressful than any fucking thing you'll EVER experience at work.
Yet....you want some gorgeous angel to have the cock of a complete stranger in her mouth within 15 minutes of meeting you. Just because you're cool...and stressed...and work is a bitch...and your wife doesn't understand you....yadda yadda fucking yadda.

I'm guessing you don't go to work every day wondering if you'll wind up in jail that night with your picture plastered on the internet.
Now how about you tell us all about your stress and bullshit that you have to deal with?

Weak.

Just sayin'
DD

...yesterday when he opened with a one liner and the proceeded to stutter as I reamed him with a bunch of questions to follow his one liner with. It was clear he had no answers nor had he even thought about what he would say. That's just as suspicious to me as members of P411 who have no pro okays as ToriKTaylor pointed out.

"What exactly does your service offer?" ...... (WHAT??)..... "Strictly companionship and companionship - do you have any references?" I've never gotten that question - until lately! I've gotten it a few times in the past few weeks! Wow .... Crazy ..... SCREEN SCREEN SCREEN!!

Posted By: LoveLaneysRedLightShow
...yesterday when he opened with a one liner and the proceeded to stutter as I reamed him with a bunch of questions to follow his one liner with. It was clear he had no answers nor had he even thought about what he would say. That's just as suspicious to me as members of P411 who have no pro okays as ToriKTaylor pointed out.

"Their source of income is more stressful than any fucking thing you'll EVER experience at work."

Right. They do fuck for a living, don't they.

"Yet....you want some gorgeous angel to have the cock of a complete stranger in her mouth within 15 minutes of meeting you."

I don't expect blowjobs at all unless the lady really wants to give me one. I would much rather give than receive.

"Now how about you tell us all about your stress and bullshit that you have to deal with"

How about I not.

"Weak."

Do you live any where near Tampa. Want to get together and I'll show you how weak I am? Or are you too much of a pussy?

Posted By: DirtyDaego
So you don't like stringent requirements. Maybe you see it as hoops to jump through? Something you *have* to do...not unlike the bullshit in your daily life?
Yeah....life is stressful and no one is a big fan of bullshit in any form. True dat (that's as urban as I get..lol)

There's just one little thing you seem to be forgetting...or ignoring.
What these ladies do is illegal. That means against the fucking law. Their source of income is more stressful than any fucking thing you'll EVER experience at work.
Yet....you want some gorgeous angel to have the cock of a complete stranger in her mouth within 15 minutes of meeting you. Just because you're cool...and stressed...and work is a bitch...and your wife doesn't understand you....yadda yadda fucking yadda.

I'm guessing you don't go to work every day wondering if you'll wind up in jail that night with your picture plastered on the internet.
Now how about you tell us all about your stress and bullshit that you have to deal with?

Weak.

Just sayin'
DD

Too bad that this thread has gone so far that people won't notice the new posts..like yours.

But for those that do...and obviously your obsessing ass...I do live near enough to Tampa to make the trip. I make it often for all the right reasons.

I'd love nothing more than to stop into town and buy you a drink.

Just sayin'
DD

to put a talker in his rightful place in the food chain. Visit Orlando much? I have a favorite boxing gym that, for a small fee, will set up a legal match. All are welcome, and every time we will all come away understanding the other person a little better. Some of my best friends have come out of that place, and there's no need to talk about it or brag about how tough you are any more. It seems to settle all arguments with the best possible outcome.

You know, it's very interesting that my Dad used to sometimes call me a Dirty Daego when I was a kid and I had no idea what it even meant until I just looked it up. So I guess you learn something every day.

They don't allow you enough characters for a handle to fit:
Fucking dirty daego guinea wop rat bastard
:D

Cool.

I have no idea where my Dad got the term but I suspect it was when he was in the Army during WWII even though he served in the Pacific.

Posted By: DirtyDaego
They don't allow you enough characters for a handle to fit:
Fucking dirty daego guinea wop rat bastard
:D

Your Dad got it from growing up...just like mine. It was that time. When people who lived in cities stayed within certain blocks...because they had to.
You're fine in your area...but cross the street into the Jewish or Polish or Russian or whatever area...and you were toast. No one would do anything about it...because you shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Kind of surprised you weren't exposed to more of it...being in the Viet Nam era and all.

Now it's just done in fun...mostly. My best friends are Jewish and Polish. We can be out and it's "you worthless daego" this and "kike bastard" that and "dumb pollack" all night long....between us. It's when someone wants to try to jump in and say the same things......game on.
No different than if you're out with a buddy and you're calling each other asshole all night. I'll bet if someone else calls either an asshole it's a totally different story.

Now if your Dad called you daego and you're not Italian.....I got nothing on why. lol.

I agree that too stringent requirements can really spoil a mood but better safe than sorry.  It's my opinion that if a gentleman happens to be verified by at least a couple of other ladies via P411 Okays and/or Date-Check - better is he has either been WhiteListed on TER or has a history online- I keep additional screening to a minimum..especially if the references listed on either website respond to my reference inquiry.  

It is when a P411 profile is absent of Provider Okays that makes me wonder..

First, DD you're pretty much *the* top, I really appreciate your point of view and you couldn't be more on point with your second post.

I'm not mad at the gent who made the comment about feeling like he's dealing with work issues. I think you made a good point about how stressful our work can be. I've been in this industry for 16 years (pre-eros) and I still get an upset stomach and anxiety *every* time I meet someone new. We ladies don't just walk out the door to see you just like that. Most of us have a ritual that we go through as we transition our mental state to our online personal. We obviously have to be concerned about a mugshot but beyond that we have to deal with off-balance individuals, rip-offs/thieves/rapists and anything else you can think of out there. We have to be concerned with every single thing we do while with you and every impression we make. We have to worry about that one individual in the bunch who feels "entitled" as DD put it and if they're not 100% satisfied that we might earn a negative review thereby affecting our business in a highly negative way. ------ This is the stress of a provider's life. Compare it to your business situation and I'm sure we're about equal on the stress-o-meter.

But --- getting back on point, I hear what people are saying about being too stringent and am going to give the topic some deep thought. Perhaps I should pull back on traditional screening and keep the last minute requirements in place. If someone is going to call out of the blue, last minute I feel like they should be prepared to provide information.

I *really* appreciate everyone's feedback. Screening requirements can be very difficult to navigate and deeply value the candor shared here.


Laney what you fail to realize is that guys worry about the same thing.

Posted By: LoveLaneysRedLightShow
First, DD you're pretty much *the* top, I really appreciate your point of view and you couldn't be more on point with your second post.

I'm not mad at the gent who made the comment about feeling like he's dealing with work issues. I think you made a good point about how stressful our work can be. I've been in this industry for 16 years (pre-eros) and I still get an upset stomach and anxiety *every* time I meet someone new. We ladies don't just walk out the door to see you just like that. Most of us have a ritual that we go through as we transition our mental state to our online personal. We obviously have to be concerned about a mugshot but beyond that we have to deal with off-balance individuals, rip-offs/thieves/rapists and anything else you can think of out there. We have to be concerned with every single thing we do while with you and every impression we make. We have to worry about that one individual in the bunch who feels "entitled" as DD put it and if they're not 100% satisfied that we might earn a negative review thereby affecting our business in a highly negative way. ------ This is the stress of a provider's life. Compare it to your business situation and I'm sure we're about equal on the stress-o-meter.

But --- getting back on point, I hear what people are saying about being too stringent and am going to give the topic some deep thought. Perhaps I should pull back on traditional screening and keep the last minute requirements in place. If someone is going to call out of the blue, last minute I feel like they should be prepared to provide information.

I *really* appreciate everyone's feedback. Screening requirements can be very difficult to navigate and deeply value the candor shared here.



You are a smart woman, clearly, and you are not over-screening.  Since reading your initial post last night, I have been ruminating over screening...  You got me thinking.  Something recently happened to me in Jax, had I been more careful it would have been avoided.  (I was not arrested, it involved an obsessed want-to-be client checking into the room next to mine.) That said, some things are unavoidable yet much can be prevented.  You screen as you see fit and follow your first intuitive impression of a gentleman- as well as your gut instincts.  

You are completely right regarding how we ladies feel.  It's a scary business.  

Posted By: LoveLaneysRedLightShow
First, DD you're pretty much *the* top, I really appreciate your point of view and you couldn't be more on point with your second post.

I'm not mad at the gent who made the comment about feeling like he's dealing with work issues. I think you made a good point about how stressful our work can be. I've been in this industry for 16 years (pre-eros) and I still get an upset stomach and anxiety *every* time I meet someone new. We ladies don't just walk out the door to see you just like that. Most of us have a ritual that we go through as we transition our mental state to our online personal. We obviously have to be concerned about a mugshot but beyond that we have to deal with off-balance individuals, rip-offs/thieves/rapists and anything else you can think of out there. We have to be concerned with every single thing we do while with you and every impression we make. We have to worry about that one individual in the bunch who feels "entitled" as DD put it and if they're not 100% satisfied that we might earn a negative review thereby affecting our business in a highly negative way. ------ This is the stress of a provider's life. Compare it to your business situation and I'm sure we're about equal on the stress-o-meter.

But --- getting back on point, I hear what people are saying about being too stringent and am going to give the topic some deep thought. Perhaps I should pull back on traditional screening and keep the last minute requirements in place. If someone is going to call out of the blue, last minute I feel like they should be prepared to provide information.

I *really* appreciate everyone's feedback. Screening requirements can be very difficult to navigate and deeply value the candor shared here.


and nothing else. Do you always go to Argentina to get to China?

You are speaking 100% accurate- and correctly.  
I find that it speaks volumes of the character of the person when they are willing to be properly (discreetly) screened.  :)
There has to be a certain level of comfort between the provider & the potential new friend. IMHO, screening helps everyone feel comfortable too..

in person when we met.  You understand how this game is played.

That being said, all providers should take whatever steps they think is necessary to stay safe.  I'm sure you keep some records as to determine if these new requirements will affect your business.  Only time will tell.

Regarding your requirements themselves--if a guy doesn't want to give you the information you seek, he can move on to find someone else.  When I traveled on business, if I thought there was a "chance" of some free time to P4P, I would select a provider in the area I was going to travel to and get pre-screened.  That way, if I had some unexpected free time, I could try to connect last minute.  If my schedule was more concrete, I would set something up a week or two in advance.  

Lastly, if too many independent ladies make similar changes, it may drive guys to use agencies.  Once you are verified by an agency, it usually only takes a phone call to see another provider to satisfy the variety itch.

Again, your call with what you set as your requirements.

Continued good luck to you and stay safe!

Laney - I appreciate all the thought that you have put into your new screening as well as you're post.  I also appreciate DD words of advice to you.

IMO, and its just my thoughts, is that you need to look at things in the 3 diamond rule.

The past, the present, and your future.

If you were to presently get arrested, what would it truly cost you?

If you are doing this without the knowledge of friends, family and business associates, what happens in the present, could forever alter relationships that you have spent the past building up - trust, love, friendship, and associations.

If you were to in the present get arrested, your future would also forever be altered, not with just your relationships that you built in the past, but your name would be on the police blotter and forever on the internet in the news, affecting your ability to build future relationships on your own terms - meaning coming out to them when you were ready to after trust was built, future employment prospects - and if self employed, future associates, such as banks and lenders knowing this information, and also if you have children, their futures being associated with this "stigma".

This is what I truly think you need to weigh when making your decision on how you handle your business. There will be those who will not see you, although you have been around for a while, and that level of trust should have been built,  but there are those who will.

BUT, as in the case of a Minnesota provider who was recently arrested, it took them 6 months to get past her screening, and they eventually did..... granted, for the most part, I do not think that they would go after a normal lady that hard, she had flaunted a little too much in their face, I think that no matter what, screening can still be penetrated, but the harder it is, in most cases, they just move on.

Good luck with your decision.



I saw that story as well.
Months to get past her screening....yet they did.

Definitely a cautionary tale for all of the "I've been doing it this way for X number of years with no problem" crowd.

Just sayin'
DD

... Many girls are being very tight-lipped about this whole thing. Not me. I'm asking as many questions as people will answer. I think it's important that we get as much of an angle on this thing as we can.

I'm researching the how and why and have composed a list of things I need to do to cover my ass in the event I'm leaned on.

For now, I think it's time to jump ship and start touring more frequently ---- or, in my case start touring (since I rarely go anywhere ; ) .

If I trust YOU, I will give you my social security number and bank account number, all the PIN's I have, and not worry about it.
Some backpage girl, who's screening is little more than "are you affiliated w/ LE" won't get any more than a phone number.
But you top notch pro's who are here, and present yourselves with class, have a community backing that gives you the okay, You get anything you want, without reservation.
That means you Laney. And if you ever reduce your screening requirements, you will fall in my personal respect category.

I know I do not chime that often, but I have to give some major props to DD...”just sayin”

Diego you are spot on.  At the end of the day we all know this is illegal.  I have no issues giving my information to someone.  This hobby is about respect, trust and staying within the boundaries of which you are spending time with.

If a guy does not want to give personal information than it is not worth your time.  I think some of the things you are asking for might be asking a lot, but at the end of the day I still think your gut feeling is the best one to always go with anyone that is a newbie.

I can tell you that I have been in this hobby for a while and I prefer to see someone that I know and trust, but having some variety is nice.  When I see a new lady or someone that I have seen for years I still get that feeling in my stomach as I get out of my car and walk up to her place. It takes me a good 5 - 10 minutes once I enter the room to feel comfortable.  Then when the time is up I get that uneasy feeling as I walk out the door.  You never know who is standing outside or watching you.

You need to make your own decisions.  What you go through each time you see someone is nerve whacking.  I hear you about your routine you have and how you want to impress each guy and make him feel special and we all thank you for that.  The last thing we all want is our picture plastered all over the internet.  Some guys do not like the fact that we have to give so much information because we do not know what you do with that information once we are verified and we leave.

You look at the recent arrest here in Orlando.  They took her computer...who the hell knows what she has on there.  Did she keep all of information (name, work #, cell #, etc)?  We don't know?  Is LEO going to take that information and plaster it all over the internet? Who knows?  We all take risks when we inquire information and share our personal information with you lovely ladies.  At the end of the day we have to trust each other and if you feel like something smells fishy than it probably is and not worth your time.

Good luck and think hard about what is best for you...not for the guys, but what is best for your safety.

.... first off, thanks for chiming in. You have great points. I never really thought about the anxiety you might feel as you exit stage left from any given incall/outcall rendezvous. I'm making a mental note of it and will try to help take the lead on making people feel safe as they leave my place. Just for fun - do you have any idea how sensitive it is to enter a hotel late at night and to walk out an hour or so later? It's beyond any walk of shame your average civilian might face. lol!!!  Hmmm --- do you think it's our giant bags that give us away or that we have stockings on in 100 degree weather? ;)

As for keeping verification information - I trash anything that's sensitive, work information, cell phone numbers that clients have asked me not to call them on after our appointment date. As for email inquiries I do keep an archive in gmail. Most information relates to p411, date-check, provider references etc. Now that it's being brought up I'm going to sort through my archives and start deleting anything that looks sensitive.

As I mentioned above I've created a list of things I need to do in order to clean my computer up. I don't want to tell people what I'm doing but the list is 10 items long and growing. The mess in Orlando is way too close for comfort and I'm not taking anything for granted.

xo L

I agree...but keep in mind she had her guard down.  Did she indeed do proper checks or did she just setup an appointment?

I would guess to say there was no real checks being done.  I think she just took the call and setup the appointment.

What you are doing is the right thing.  You have your regulars as well as some new ones from time to time.  The new ones you just screen like normal or add a few extra things.  If they are not willing to give it to you then move on.  

I never thought about it from your end when you leave an outcall or just got home at the end of the night.

I use to work in the hotel industry years ago and you knew who the ladies were coming in at 11pm and leaving at midnight.  Most of the valet guys and bell men enjoyed looking at the eye candy and none of us cared.  I am not sure how it is today for you.  My heart goes out to you.

I have always said go with your gut feeling.  There was a time that someone came to Orlando and the screening was very light.  When I got to the hotel things did not seem right so I cancelled my appointment last minute.  It was a gut feeling.  I explained to the girl that things do not seem right from the people in the lobby to the people on her floor.  I left and yes she was upset, but at end of the day I am not going to be on the 6 o'clock news.  I stick with who I know and those that are on here.

Just my 2 cents.

Do what ever makes you happy, If they don't like it tha hell with em. This goes both ways, Provider and hobbyist. If it don't fit, next!!! No need to bitch, cry and moan.

I read though your connect page and thought through each requirement.  I have been hobbying long before the internet.
I find each of your requirements reasonable by themselves and in combinations.  Not sure many gents with good reputations with hobbyists could pass the screening by meeting all criteria.  I have 3 or 4 whitelists and about the same referrals on dare-check.  My work is unconventional, a merchant marine, not military but do a lot of support of troops as well as commercial transport.  Basically a contract worker, own a ship, not reachable by phone, no web page with photo.
I don't review every lady I see nor get references from all.

This said, being Safe and Secure is the utmost importance and each provider and hobbyist too must make the decision of what it takes to achieve their safety and security.

Laney, goodness girl! you have been doing this for 16 years and you are still safe and secure! I bet historically you also said yes or no - not just on what a client said to you but what your gut said also - right? If its worked for you for 16 years why do you think you need to change something now?
You are just making it more difficult for good people to see you. Laney, most new clients will just opt to pass and if you are ok with that - great - then so be it.

Let your common sense prevail. If you become a target of the CIA - Porn task force, no amount of checking and back-checking will save you ....lol... relax and do what you have been doing. I obviously could not pass the rigor of your revised screening, so boo ho I guess I wont get the pleasure of your company, both we will both survive that - won't we?

Posted By: FlaSailorRon
I read though your connect page and thought through each requirement.  I have been hobbying long before the internet.
I find each of your requirements reasonable by themselves and in combinations.  Not sure many gents with good reputations with hobbyists could pass the screening by meeting all criteria.  I have 3 or 4 whitelists and about the same referrals on dare-check.  My work is unconventional, a merchant marine, not military but do a lot of support of troops as well as commercial transport.  Basically a contract worker, own a ship, not reachable by phone, no web page with photo.
I don't review every lady I see nor get references from all.

This said, being Safe and Secure is the utmost importance and each provider and hobbyist too must make the decision of what it takes to achieve their safety and security.

...meaning, i have my core requirements, as all ladies do (e.g., real info, verification sites/whitelists and/or references, employment info), but every single situation is different.  sometimes i will accept less,  sometimes i will require more.  i go with my instincts and my gut.  i have been known to ask some off-the-wall questions from time to time...but as most everyone here seems to agree, it's all about what it takes for all parties - particularly me! - to feel comfy.  my point is that my requirements are not concrete; rather, what i will require and what accept is quite fluid.  AND even if a gentleman meets all my "requirements", i reserve the right to turn him down at my discretion for any reason or no reason.

Marie! you said it all!!!!! You get it.!

Posted By: j.marie
...meaning, i have my core requirements, as all ladies do (e.g., real info, verification sites/whitelists and/or references, employment info), but every single situation is different.  sometimes i will accept less,  sometimes i will require more.  i go with my instincts and my gut.  i have been known to ask some off-the-wall questions from time to time...but as most everyone here seems to agree, it's all about what it takes for all parties - particularly me! - to feel comfy.  my point is that my requirements are not concrete; rather, what i will require and what accept is quite fluid.  AND even if a gentleman meets all my "requirements", i reserve the right to turn him down at my discretion for any reason or no reason.

Exactly.

No matter what your screening process it seems to me you will ultimately have to go with your gut to make the final decision any way. Does it really matter, as far as your gut is concerned, that I have 4 okays on P411 instead of 3?

Personally, I only want to see ladies whose gut tells me we're good to go. If I don't sense that then I really don't want to waste my time proving my bona fides to her. That's a great turnoff.

But I'll say it again --- Yes, yes, yes of course we always trust our gut. Women's intuition, gut feelings, premonitions - whatever you want to call them - are certainly all a part of the process. That's kind of an un-written screening rule and screening rule number one in my book --- But, since we can't or shouldn't (bad for business) post something like "if you don't pass my trust your gut rule" you're outta  here we have to outline some means of screening requirements don't we?

When I say bad for business I mean bad in the way of being both a turn off and just one more piece of information we should keep close to the vest. I mean - really, *they* have to be actors too right? We don't want to help them create the scene and practice their lines right?

.... I'm trying to keep this thread informative and supportive. I don't think it's necessary to act as a cheerleading team with the "Marie! you said it all!!!!! You get it!" like I don't. I've said this offline to a few girls and I'll say it to you. With everything that's been going on lately ladies need to drop all the drama and grudges (or at least put them aside for a while) and look at every girl in this business as our sister. We need to look out for one another right now.

I don't mean to be condescending or rude but your reply really bothered me since JMarie and I have had *one* issue on the board between us. One run-in is one too many as far as I'm concerned and am not looking to get things between she and I riled back up again. Last, I wanted to reiterate - I say this with all due respect.

xo LL

we've got no issues between us, none.  as i recall, you took exception to something i posted awhile back (danged if i even remember now what it was, but it doesn't matter).  can we not have different opinions on an issue without painting ourselves as adversaries?  darlin, i have no problem with you, i wish you could say the same for me.  hell, we've never even met.  as far as i'm concerned, there's nothing to "start back up", LOL.  

if you DID know me or know anything about me, you'd know that i'm one of the staunchest advocates for safety for ALL ladies in this business.  i'm known for dropping everything to respond to reference requests, and i do so in detail, none of this "good to go!" ridiculousness.  everyone who knows anything about me knows that i will do ANYTHING to keep any lady safe, even if it's someone i'm not particularly fond of.  safety - EVERYONE'S safety - is my highest priority.

come on, now.  we're on the same team here.

Laney: I think your new conditions are fine.However, shouldn't it work both ways ?
In the past I have seen a few girls with no reviews,that their ads DON'T say 100% real pictures, or that don't have their own websites and more times than not have been burned.
So now, if a girl doesn't have a website with real pictures, or if it's just an ad and she doesn't say 100% real pictures, has no reviews or is under 25 , I just pass.
It's easier that way. As the old saying goes, " there's plenty of fish in the sea ".

They'll find a reason to put the handcuffs on, go through all your stuff and yes take you away. It very well can get thrown out of court but your still out lots of time and money.  There are no fairy-tales here just facts I have seen many times over.

Work up every possible way to screen and still they can find a way around it if they want. Screening will work 100 % if their not looking for or at you. My gut has saved me.  If everything looks good to go with all your boxes checked but something doesn't feel right walk away and don't knock on that door. I have had the opportunity to sit from afar myself.

In most cases low hanging fruit easy for the pickings makes an easy target and this is what their after but not always. They look for the big fish so they can reel in more than a pound of flesh and a hell of a lot more money.

I know i'm not a guy Laney but just wanted to put a spin on my experiences.

Kisses Haley

My gut says Laney is in the twilight of her career, desirous of making as much money as she can before she enters the next phase of her life and not wanting to jeopardize her hopes and plans with an arrest for prostitution after making it this far.

More power to her.

Hmmmm, why would that word bother her.......

Googling "twilight".

Okay, some kind of vampire association?

I only made the observation about "winding down" (is that better) your career because  you made it yourself in a post not too long ago, if my memory is correct.




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... They are going to need us now more than ever.

I'm not close to either but perhaps a trusted friend could open a rush card account. People can make cash donations directly to the card/s - no names needed. All they need is the card number and a moneygram location. It takes less than 5 minutes to load the $. It will be good for them to have a little something to lean on so someone please step up to take this task on.

xo LL

There does seem to be something going on with this post that us hobbyists aren't aware of.

I don't recommend doing this. I did this for a provider once before and I got totally burned in the end.  Sometimes good intentions turn bad.

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She may cut a deal work for ther Uncle leon. There is nothing that does no leave a trail, in todays society. you walk in a store you are on cma. You use a computer, it can be traced. I will leave them alone. We all have to understand the risk and reward.

if the lady wants more info than that, I say thanks and move on.
Laney's concerns are well founded and she is entitled to screen however she wishes. For me, with the advent of reputable screening sites, the days of divulging personal info are gone.

Laney I see nothing wrong with you screening requests on the web site.  Honestly I personally feel more comfortable with a lady who is careful.

Well written Laney

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